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Career women: A crime against nature?

She's trouble!

Quiz: Which of the following is an example of female infidelity? (Check all that apply.)

a)      A man and a woman are in a monogamous relationship; neither one sleeps with anyone else.

b)      A man and a woman are in a monogamous relationship; the man sleeps with someone else.

c)       A man and a woman are in a monogamous relationship; the woman sleeps with someone else.

d)      A woman, who may or may not be in a monogamous relationship, works hard at a job she enjoys.

ANSWER: If you answered c, congratulations! You are correct. If you also answered d, you are probably PUA guru and freelance internet asshole “Roissy” or one of his douchey fans. In a recent post Roissy argues, quite sincerely, that women who take their careers seriously are committing a sort of psycho-social-sexual crime against men.

In the post, Roissy quotes a reader of his who’d suggested that “female career obsession [is] a form of infidelity to the family and marrage.” Roissy seconds this opinion and goes on to argue that:

Women who place their careers front and center are committing a kind of betrayal of their sex’s biological and psychological imperatives. It’s like a big middle finger to everything that distinguishes the feminine from the masculine, the yin from the yang.

Is it possible that these women are just, you know, really into their careers? That they’re good at what they do and enjoy doing it? That they want to make a difference in the world? That they might have a family to support? Or that, you know, they simply like making a lot of money?

Of course not. For Roissy, careers are little more than psychological crutches for women who are 1) trying to distract themselves from loneliness and/or sexual boredom:

It’s quite possible that the worst offenders — the 14 hour day lawyercunts and the graduate school hermits — embrace the male-oriented rat race and achievement spectacle because it offers a welcome distraction from either spinsterly loneliness or boring beta male partners who, while intellectually are rationalized as good matches, do not viscerally excite them.

Or, 2) imagining themselves as the heroines in some glamorous romance novel:

Maybe, too, these careerist chicks see their jobs as a way to enter the world of the alpha male, to have a taste of what it would be like to be part of his life. The office cubes and doormen and glassy skyscrapers have given legions of plain janes the daily stimulation to mentally masturbate fantasy romances with the alpha males who run their companies or the alpha salesmen who greet them at the front desk with a twinkle in their eyes.

Or, 3) trying to magically ward off the case of the uglies that apparently infects each and every woman when she hits the age of 40:

When a woman’s SMV [Sexual Market Value] inevitably craters in her 40s, her career might be all she has to lift her spirits, especially if she has no husband she loves, no kids, or even just one kid who spends most of his time playing CoD or robbing convenience stores.

Of course, in Roissy’s mind, these women aren’t quite women to begin with, even before they get hit with the 40th birthday ugly stick:

 [T]here is something “off” about women who are excessively devoted to their careers and to obtaining an acronymic parade of pointless credentials. Careerist shrikes are some of the most unpleasant, unfeminine women to be around. They must have more androgen receptors than normal women to be so grating to the male sensibility. Sure, they can fuck like Viagra-laced male pornstars, but as soon as you relieve yourself in them you will feel a second powerful urge to escape their aggro nastiness.

Yeah, somehow I’m guessing that urge to flee is pretty strong in these women as well, as soon as they realize that they guy they’ve just had sex with is a pretentious narcissistic windbag who hates women.

Roissy continues, revealing far more about his own sexual insecurities than about any actual career women:

The women for whom career success is their comfort and their purpose are some sort of weird, monstrous amalgam of man and woman, halfway between both worlds, their sexual polarity askew. These types tend to attract either intense short term flings with alphas or plodding marriages with dweeby, effete kitchen bitches.

Roissy is vaguely aware that feminists – not to mention pretty much anyone who isn’t a complete douchebag misogynist – might have a few issues with his theories here.

The dumbfuck feminists will naturally ask, “Why doesn’t this same theory apply to men? Aren’t they escaping sad love lives by retreating to their careers?”

Don’t you know it’s different for guys? Unlike women, men are evolutionarily programmed to be resource providers for women. It is not a betrayal of a man’s innate purpose in life to ambitiously pursue achievement and accolades. In fact, just the opposite; it’s an affirmation of that ancient purpose.

Remember this, you ungrateful career ladies: WE HUNTED THE MAMMOTH TO FEED YOU!

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Ami Angelwings
13 years ago

I want to keep it balanced (not feminists always win), but right now I’m just designing cards for narrative and amusement xD later if i need help, he can be a playtester tho :]

Lyn
Lyn
13 years ago

I thought that was the case…but it would be funny if it was so completely broken and rigged that feminists always win. Doesn’t make for longevity of interest in the game though – so I totally get not doing that. But yes, he will be willing to playtest. He had a total nerdgasm about my magyc card – v cute 🙂

Ami Angelwings
13 years ago

Well currently the feminist legends are more powerful than the MRA legends which cost less mana and have other sorts of combat skills… xD

but I’m just playing by their rules.. they’re the plucky underdogs right? xD

Lyn
Lyn
13 years ago

Right. The point of the whole movement is pointing out that feminists/women have ALL the power (to WITHOLD sex!!!111!) and men have no power. Oooh – the costing more manna thing totally ties in with the ‘women’s sexuality is overpriced’ thing (I think there’s more to it, I lose track)!

denelian
denelian
13 years ago

i’m not caught up again yet, but this:

“AWS | June 24, 2011 at 11:48 pm denelian

Shouting in all caps is a sign of your feminist shouting and lack of self-control associated with drug addicts. Did you vote for Obongo?”

again, i ask you, what the holy ever-livin’ FUCK?! because, despite you infering that i “shouted in all caps”, it’s not true – a few words were in caps for EMPHASIS, which is different than “everything is in caps”. i wasn’t yelling, i did not [nor do i now] lack control – except on that last one. that’s a fucked up thing to accuse *anyone* of, but in the case of myself, you could say i’m “addicted to drugs” – the meds that literally keep me ALIVE. but that wasn’t what you were trying to say, and that fact that you are just attempting to smear me and my good name? shows that you fail at debating, are unable to have a civil discussion, and aren’t worth the time and effort i’ve put into you already. the ONLY reason i’m making this post is that saying shit like? is actionable. oh, i grant online and the weasley way you worded it make unlikely that anyone *would* attempt to go after you for slander and libel, but they *COULD*. you’re treading a fine line there – call me a bitch or similar and i won’t care. infer that i’m committing a FELONY?! you’ve gone over the line.

of course, you’re a troll, so you either won’t care or will be happy about it. up until the day you go too far and have enough rope to hang yourself…

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
13 years ago

Alrighty, I think AWS finally flounced. Ending on a strong note, I see. I think its time for me to take back what little sleep I have left… Thank goodness its Friday (Saturday, technically, but I say it ain’t the next day till you sleep, or its past 6am. 5 minutes to get to sleep.. you can do it). This was some of the most fun I’ve ever had with a troll. I’m kinda half hoping he comes back (then again, its like wanting NWO to come back… urk…)

G’night, you beautiful people you.

roissy is a gimp
roissy is a gimp
13 years ago

i know i’m coming late to the party, and the topic’s long since moved on from roissy in dc – but have to say this is natural justice. for a long long time, anyone who dared criticise the great roissy on a blog could look forward to a bunch of his bitchy little fanboys coming round their way saying ‘youre just jealous of him because he’s got way more readers than you and gets way more comments than you so he’s one of the popular alpha male kids and you’re just a sad no mates loser, neeurgh’ (theyre really mature like that, you may have noticed.)

oh how it must piss them off that by their exact same logic and reasoning, cat loving ‘mangina’ david futrelle is far more popular than their disturbed and shabby little messiah. seven hundred and something comments and counting, and more devoted readers than you can shake a bloody big stick at. roissyites, you have officially been AMOGGED. in. yo. face. bitches.

by the way there’s a good parody of all things roissy at citizenlemonade.wordpress.com 🙂

Pam
Pam
13 years ago

The Personality Traits of Feminists
by http://www.theghostnation.com

If you are a feminist, you do not sincerely believe in God, you endorse Zionism, rectal sodomites, violence, police brutality, are two-faced, a liar, treacherous, a prospective adulterer, swear a lot, disorganized, vulgar, angry, a hacker and cybercriminal, untrustworthy, unfair, unjust, you share private information, are a misandrist, you commit blackmail and extortion, you are unpatriotic, you do not support the Constitution, are not humble, you hate straight whitey, have an erratic temperament, raise your voice to get a point across, are a sexual deviant, sadistic, violent, manipulative, fake friendships, enthusiastically associate with criminals, Zionists, sociopaths and psychopaths, cheat, are worthless and nonconstructive, are anti-heterosexual, heterophobic, atheist, agnostic, engage in gang-stalking, promote ugliness and scatology, do not respect other’s privacy, and do not believe that all rectal sodomites are homosexuals.

theghostnation.com is a very sophisticated site

Clearly.

Spearhafoc
13 years ago

Aw, I missed some world-class trolling. That’s what I get for going to bed early.

Yeah, Green Lantern was weak. I say that as a die-hard comic book geek, who is supposedly the ideal audience for this movie.

Pam
Pam
13 years ago

If I might add another Cashew Chicken recipe to the mix. I tend to use almonds instead of cashews, though, simply because I prefer almonds…..

Sauce:
1 tsp cornstarch
½ Tbsp soy sauce
½ cup chicken stock

1 lb chicken breasts, skinned and boned, and sliced into strips
1 Tbsp cornstarch
2 Tbsp soy sauce

2 Tbsp oil
2 stalks celery, sliced
1 cup sliced mushrooms
¼ lb snow peas
½ – ¾ cup water chestnuts
1 small onion, sliced
1 small clove garlic, minced

½ cup cashews or 3/4 cup almonds

Combine the 1 tsp cornstarch and ½ Tbsp soy sauce with the chicken stock and set aside

Blend the 1 Tbsp cornstarch with the 2 Tbsp soy sauce, then stir in the chicken strips
Heat 1 Tbsp of oil in wok
Add the chicken into the wok and stir over medium heat for 3-4 minutes
Remove the chicken
Add the remaining oil into the wok and reheat
Add the remaining ingredients, except for the cashews/almonds, return to med heat, cover and cook for approx 1 minute, and make sure to shake the wok several times
Uncover and cook for a few more minutes, stirring occasionally
Add the chicken stock mixture that was previously set aside, and stir (still over med heat) until the sauce thickens (might take a few minutes)
Stir in some of the cashews/almonds and the chicken strips just before serving
Serve over rice, adding the remaining cashews/almonds overtop

almostclever
13 years ago

I think this blog is bad for my health – it induces way too much anger from me..

Pecunium
13 years ago

Slightly more awake now.

Lessee… I studied Journalism, photography French, and American Sign Language in college (the ASL is pretty much gone).

I’ve done Judo, a whole lot of sword/blade arts, and presently keep up with sword and practice Aikdo.

I’ve been trained in cooking (did catering for a while in High School and college, as well as working in pizza).

In 16 years in the Army… Whoo-boy.

Basic Training

Russian

Combat Livesaver Course (more first aid than you ever want to know about and you have to be able to do an IV. Certification time limited, so refreshers are common).

A bunch of courses on instruction, largely focused on small groups, with a significant portion aimed at hands on/practical exercise training.

Interrogation/instruction of interrogation (I was a qualified interrogation instructor from 1995 to 2008. I did it at the unit level (for both mine, and for units I was attached to for purposes of training) and at the schooolhouse. It was never my primary unit assignment, but I probably averaged about 1 TDY mission a year doing a course where we qualified new interrogators.

Unit armorer (Weapons maintenance for any individual, and crew served weapons a unit might have. No mortars, but pistols, rifles, machine guns and grenade launchers).

A number of courses related to intelligence analysis.

A few courses in small group leadership (up to platoon sized).

That’s what comes to mind in the Army

I was a machinist, doing CNC mill work, non-CNC mill work and basic lathe work. I can do basic wood-turning (I’d be more than basic but I don’t have a lathe of my own). A friend of mine, who has a coupe of lathes, and I, have made some small cannon.

I teach knife skills classes, and knife sharpening, I’ve taken pottery, bred snakes, been a security guard (mostly in hospitals, esp. Emergency Rooms), written a book on basic photography, spent a lit of time in the Southwestern Desert; which means I’ve taken classes on desert survival [first tip, pick a good desert to get lost in], as well as general survival in the wilderness).

I’ve studied butchery (the art of turning larger cuts into smaller ones, not slaughter, which is the art of killing animals for food)

Marksmanship: both in the Army, where I taught it, and on the civilian side (I started shooting when I was about five).

Basic Gunsmithing

Horsemanship: I started riding when I was 18. My former fiancée had horses, so for about a decade I was able to ride pretty regularly.

Motorcycle riding. (I like driving too, and have been trained to do some specialised driving; e.g. large trailers and convoy driving, but it’s not the same sort of thing). I can do moderate mechanical repair on internal combustion motors. I’m not a, “mechanic” but I know how to turn a wrench and have done moderate teardown/repair of engines. I maintain my bikes, pretty much, myself.

Breeding snakes. Keeeping small animals (mice/rats/guinea pigs)

I’ve dabbled in blacksmithing. If/when I have the space I will probably get a small forge, and moderate anvil.

Pyrotechnics. I’ve done a bit of fireworks, but not gotten around to getting my ticket. I do now how to set, load, and wire, mortars. I know how to make various compounds.

Archery.

I used to play the cello, but now I am a so-so pennywhistle player.

Gardening. I’ve never had to manage an area more than about 1/2 an acre, but I can do a lot in 1/2 an acre. That includes fruit tree maintenance.

Basic Carpentry. I can drive a nail, lay a foundation and frame a wall. I can do roofing. I don’t now how to hang sheet rock, do wiring or do more than really simple bricklaying (I could do a walkway, or make a free-standing wall, but not face a building).

That’s what comes to mind.

It looks a lot more impressive than it feels. I like to study, and I like to apply the things I done. There are a number of those (e.g. wood-turning, bricklaying, pottery) where I am more journeyman than master, but a surprising number at which I am actually quite competent. There are some others which aren’t in there, but which are pretty obvious to everyone. I did debate in college, and I’ve done a lot of persuasive speaking and writing (in the past few years a lot of that has been on torture/interrogation). I enjoy debate, and am a pretty good researcher.

Pecunium
13 years ago

Kirby: re AWS Don’t tell me you’re adding “disgustingly dishonest” to your list of fine debating tactics?

Adding? I don’t think AWS is adding it.

ithiliana
13 years ago

Wow, having to sleep meant I totally missed the trollfest.

OTOH, after reading our resident trolls for a while, I’m fairly disappointed that they seem entirely focused on business — they are almost totally ignoring the fact that the liberalradicalsocialistcommiequeers have taken over universities and are brainwashing the next generations and totally abusing the few remaining brave and persecuted straight cis white male conservatives who are the ONLY tru victims left.

There are so many lovely conspiracy theories about the educational system in the US (start with George Will who was bravely engaging in the culture wars in the 1980s), but apparently our trolls know nothing about them.

They would not get high grades in MY conspiracy theories course, let me tell you.

ithiliana
13 years ago

Although AWS does get points for creativity for the “I’m trolling in order to create a business plan for my business which does not allow any blowjobs and this is going to suceed bigtime in future” instead of the “I’m joking” or “It was a social experiment.”

Jumbofish
Jumbofish
13 years ago

hmmm I wonder if AWS is NWOslove. No one debates that badly not even middleschoolers, heck mral debates better.

Seriously why would some random troll know about him, it doesn’t add up. They both also have 3 capital letters and didn’t hesitate to use pictures in their avatar: not to mention he uses all of nwo’s traits to the extreme. I think he is meta trolling us saying if he were a “real” racist, bad debater, and conspiracy theorist he would act like this. Alternatively he might just be taking his anger out on everyone from the last incident.

Of course if he supports NWO or mras while trolling he will look like a sockpuppet so he pretends to be against them while supporting mra positions (hey nwo isn’t very bright). Throw in extremes of his beliefs and a bit of the opposite (energy efficient) and tada a bad troll.

So what do ya’ll think.

Pecunium
13 years ago

AWS wasn’t NWO. Yes, there are superficial similarities, but giraffes and leopards are both splotchy and live in africa, so …

The level of incoherence in AWS was just mind-boggling and he didn’t have NWOs stamina. The other thing is that he never resorted to the least bit of even faux self-pity.

In itself that’s not enough to rule it out but, as it wasn’t a one off, and had a sort of predictable reductio to tangiental/non sequitor insults… not NWOs style.

And Makow… serious looney tune. Pity he’s rich. Worse that the University of Toronto has to live with the knowledge they gave him a Ph.D in English.

AWS
AWS
13 years ago

You clowns got trounced. Femiste is bunk. Feminism is sadism. Clearly.

AWS
AWS
13 years ago

The Devil’s Work: Feminism and the Elite Depopulation Agenda

http://www.henrymakow.com/200202.html

AWS
AWS
13 years ago

Zionism: A Conspiracy Against Jews
http://www.henrymakow.com/000482.html

Just like feminism is a conspiracy against women that results in females being sadistic and violent:

http://www.theghostnation.com/forums/forum/35-female-violence/

AWS
AWS
13 years ago

“Wait.. so Islam overtakes Catholicism as the largest religion… because of gay sex?”

You betcha.

katz
13 years ago

Wow. I can’t even keep up with the trolls around here anymore.

Spearhafoc
13 years ago

You betcha

How?

sarahejones
13 years ago

Feminism is the devil’s work, AWS? Oh, I like doing the devil’s work! I got taste for it at my Christian high school, the one that expelled me for being a disturbing influence. But I really got hooked on it at Christian college. Who knew that by simply identifying myself as a feminist I could be credited with the slaughter of tens of thousands of babies? I mean, I think that’s what all the vandalism was about.

And my sadistic streak! Do let’s talk about my sadistic streak. I just love to sadistically rescue abandoned kittens from parking lots (his name is Tommy!) and I like to sadistically cook my boyfriend dinner, and my favorite thing of all time! Sadistically changing diapers! Woohoo! Hurray violence! Bloodshed! Come, my minions, who are kittens and toddlers, let us begin the operation…TO TURN THE WORLD INTO A FEMINIST DYSTOPIA of course. Bwahahahaha. Hahahaha. etc, etc.

Seriously, dude?

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