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Career women: A crime against nature?

She's trouble!

Quiz: Which of the following is an example of female infidelity? (Check all that apply.)

a)      A man and a woman are in a monogamous relationship; neither one sleeps with anyone else.

b)      A man and a woman are in a monogamous relationship; the man sleeps with someone else.

c)       A man and a woman are in a monogamous relationship; the woman sleeps with someone else.

d)      A woman, who may or may not be in a monogamous relationship, works hard at a job she enjoys.

ANSWER: If you answered c, congratulations! You are correct. If you also answered d, you are probably PUA guru and freelance internet asshole “Roissy” or one of his douchey fans. In a recent post Roissy argues, quite sincerely, that women who take their careers seriously are committing a sort of psycho-social-sexual crime against men.

In the post, Roissy quotes a reader of his who’d suggested that “female career obsession [is] a form of infidelity to the family and marrage.” Roissy seconds this opinion and goes on to argue that:

Women who place their careers front and center are committing a kind of betrayal of their sex’s biological and psychological imperatives. It’s like a big middle finger to everything that distinguishes the feminine from the masculine, the yin from the yang.

Is it possible that these women are just, you know, really into their careers? That they’re good at what they do and enjoy doing it? That they want to make a difference in the world? That they might have a family to support? Or that, you know, they simply like making a lot of money?

Of course not. For Roissy, careers are little more than psychological crutches for women who are 1) trying to distract themselves from loneliness and/or sexual boredom:

It’s quite possible that the worst offenders — the 14 hour day lawyercunts and the graduate school hermits — embrace the male-oriented rat race and achievement spectacle because it offers a welcome distraction from either spinsterly loneliness or boring beta male partners who, while intellectually are rationalized as good matches, do not viscerally excite them.

Or, 2) imagining themselves as the heroines in some glamorous romance novel:

Maybe, too, these careerist chicks see their jobs as a way to enter the world of the alpha male, to have a taste of what it would be like to be part of his life. The office cubes and doormen and glassy skyscrapers have given legions of plain janes the daily stimulation to mentally masturbate fantasy romances with the alpha males who run their companies or the alpha salesmen who greet them at the front desk with a twinkle in their eyes.

Or, 3) trying to magically ward off the case of the uglies that apparently infects each and every woman when she hits the age of 40:

When a woman’s SMV [Sexual Market Value] inevitably craters in her 40s, her career might be all she has to lift her spirits, especially if she has no husband she loves, no kids, or even just one kid who spends most of his time playing CoD or robbing convenience stores.

Of course, in Roissy’s mind, these women aren’t quite women to begin with, even before they get hit with the 40th birthday ugly stick:

 [T]here is something “off” about women who are excessively devoted to their careers and to obtaining an acronymic parade of pointless credentials. Careerist shrikes are some of the most unpleasant, unfeminine women to be around. They must have more androgen receptors than normal women to be so grating to the male sensibility. Sure, they can fuck like Viagra-laced male pornstars, but as soon as you relieve yourself in them you will feel a second powerful urge to escape their aggro nastiness.

Yeah, somehow I’m guessing that urge to flee is pretty strong in these women as well, as soon as they realize that they guy they’ve just had sex with is a pretentious narcissistic windbag who hates women.

Roissy continues, revealing far more about his own sexual insecurities than about any actual career women:

The women for whom career success is their comfort and their purpose are some sort of weird, monstrous amalgam of man and woman, halfway between both worlds, their sexual polarity askew. These types tend to attract either intense short term flings with alphas or plodding marriages with dweeby, effete kitchen bitches.

Roissy is vaguely aware that feminists – not to mention pretty much anyone who isn’t a complete douchebag misogynist – might have a few issues with his theories here.

The dumbfuck feminists will naturally ask, “Why doesn’t this same theory apply to men? Aren’t they escaping sad love lives by retreating to their careers?”

Don’t you know it’s different for guys? Unlike women, men are evolutionarily programmed to be resource providers for women. It is not a betrayal of a man’s innate purpose in life to ambitiously pursue achievement and accolades. In fact, just the opposite; it’s an affirmation of that ancient purpose.

Remember this, you ungrateful career ladies: WE HUNTED THE MAMMOTH TO FEED YOU!

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Lyn
Lyn
13 years ago

Victoria – I saw the first trailer and was excited, but then I saw the second trailer and went: ‘what you only had enough good material from the entire movie to put in a single trailer? Couldn’t make it to a second? Damn’. So, not surprised but thanks for the heads up – had been thinking of going to see it (I saw Pirates 4 last week – my standards are not always high)

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
13 years ago

Wait.. so Islam overtakes Catholicism as the largest religion… because of gay sex? How does that follow?

Nobinayamu
Nobinayamu
13 years ago

Victoria, it’s safe to say that you aren’t recommending it then? I’d had high hopes.

Lyn
Lyn
13 years ago

It’s totally the gay sex. It doesn’t have anything to do with birth control. No way. Sex while on birth control is gay sex anyway, isn’t it, cos it’s unnatural and not about procreation?

Nobinayamu
Nobinayamu
13 years ago

ASW, I don’t really care if you give me grief about being a scout leader. Why should I? I don’t work with the girl scouts, I work with the boy scouts; specifically, the cub scouts. If you don’t like it, that’s your problem.

Nobinayamu
Nobinayamu
13 years ago

Oh, and Kirbywarp, if you aren’t a drinker then you should still probably opt for the cooking wine. Otherwise, the bottle will just go to waste.

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
13 years ago

@Lyn:

Yup. If you aren’t pushing out a baby everytime you even look at genitalia, you are 100% gay. All those natural animals having a gay old time out in the wild? Also gay and unnatural.

AWS
AWS
13 years ago

What hatred have I posted? I’m anti-violence, pro-clean energy, pro-heterosexual, a patriot, believe government should be out of marriage, and do not boss around any kids. Feminists hate women not anti-feminists. I came here to find out who is doing what here and where they will end up working. Mission accomplished. Nighty night.

darksidecat
13 years ago

@Ami, I am back, I took a nap (my thyroid is low today, I think). I love the card! Thanks!

As someone who is very likely sterile, no matter what sex I do it is gay! Awesome sauce! 🙂 Query: Is it sadism when a masochistic switch is subbing? Inquiring minds want to know.

Also, AWS, you used the terms “miscegination”, “white pride”, and “betrays her race” all in one comment in which you also suggested limiting voting to white people was a good thing. You have long since lost any plausible deniability on the being a huge racist ass front, even before the “Obongo” comment.

PS, I am a super chef. I can make Maruchan Instant Lunch in five, six minutes, easy. 😉 Actually, I am not a terrible cook, but cooking takes a lot of energy, so I had some beef flavored Maruchan for supper tonight. I am a high roller, what with my approx 8 cents meal options-chicken or beef-I am allergic to shellfish.

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
13 years ago

@Nobinayamu:

Thanks for the advice. The seniors in my dorm used to have a big stock of cooking wine, but they all graduated last year.. *sigh* I’m the only one in my hall that’s staying this year. Ah well. I’ll be the resident crotchety old man who makes bread on a semi-weekly basis. That could be fun.

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
13 years ago

@AWS:

You’re finally gone, after apparently doing a scouting mission, so you won’t care about this. But just read back your entire conversation with Nobinayamu, and pretty much everything else you’ve said about feminists to know what hatred you’ve been spewing. Nighty-night, don’t let the gay bedbugs bite, cause then you’ll turn into some sort of homosexual super hero. Wait… Do that. Please do that.

Nobinayamu
Nobinayamu
13 years ago

Being crotchety is fun – don’t let anybody tell you different.

I can’t wait to be a really old woman. I mean, I can wait, obviously. But I can’t wait! Big hats all the time and saying whatever you want. It’s going to be awesome.

Plus, I understand that baking bread is good for your soul.

AWS
AWS
13 years ago

poor, poor pitiful kirby destined to work for the government as a shill.

http://georgewashington.blogspot.com/2006/04/911-7-man-job.html

Lyn
Lyn
13 years ago

I am cooking dinner *right now!* No, I actually am, despite being a lazy feminist who can’t cook (apparently). Peeling potatoes is boring.

Ami Angelwings
13 years ago

@Darksidecat yay! I’m glad you liked it! :3 I was concerned >_>

AWS
AWS
13 years ago

Funny how kirby gets more inane each post. . are you in high school or college? are you even 18?

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
13 years ago

@AWS:

Well, since you aren’t paying attention, I’m at least 21 (old enough to buy wine, and too old for your affections. *bitter*) You’re one to talk, though, going from pages-long screed to 1-2 sentence insults. Wearing you down, are we?

Ami Angelwings
13 years ago

I thought he left xD but apparently he needs the last word in his battle against the pink blob of doom xD

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
13 years ago

AWS, and to think you were so proud of my researching skills. 😐

BTW, who exactly are you talking to? In your mad ramblings, do you imagine a cheering, silent audience in the background, egging you on and throwing ephemeral rotten fruit at me? Or are you one of those pathetic creatures who puff themselves up to hide their insecurities? (Kirbys puff themselves up to eat you, thank you very much)

It certainly explains why you are so eager to believe in things that nearly nobody else does, it gives you a sense of power, of superior intellect, of being “in the know.” Too bad you couldn’t actually educate yourself in real things, you might be able to impress people that way. But that would take actual research, not just rattling off conspiracy websites in an effort to overwhelm your opponent with bullshit.

Ami Angelwings
13 years ago

I’m cheering him on!

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
13 years ago

@Ami,

See, this is why I broke up with you. Traitor to the feminist cause! The NWO will have your head!

Lyn
Lyn
13 years ago

Kirby gets more inane? You’re the one who started this ridiculous ‘gay/anal sex/nonprocreative sex’ is UNNATTURRAAAAAL crap. (And I’m aware that spelling something funny is not actually a way of taking down someone’s argument…but it is fun!)

Ami Angelwings
13 years ago

Oh no! 3 rly old wrestlers, one of which will apparently never retire! xDDD Flee! Flee! xD

Lyn
Lyn
13 years ago

Oh, and Ami my partner knows magic stuff (played it regularly for most of last year, semi regularly this year) so he’d be willing to talk about making the system work (so that feminists win every time!?). Plus he’s really into game design (came up with his own game last year..) and is good with that stuff. 🙂

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
13 years ago

Did I win? Have I out-innaned him? Can I go home now? I haven’t seen my family.. in so very long.

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