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Career women: A crime against nature?

She's trouble!

Quiz: Which of the following is an example of female infidelity? (Check all that apply.)

a)      A man and a woman are in a monogamous relationship; neither one sleeps with anyone else.

b)      A man and a woman are in a monogamous relationship; the man sleeps with someone else.

c)       A man and a woman are in a monogamous relationship; the woman sleeps with someone else.

d)      A woman, who may or may not be in a monogamous relationship, works hard at a job she enjoys.

ANSWER: If you answered c, congratulations! You are correct. If you also answered d, you are probably PUA guru and freelance internet asshole “Roissy” or one of his douchey fans. In a recent post Roissy argues, quite sincerely, that women who take their careers seriously are committing a sort of psycho-social-sexual crime against men.

In the post, Roissy quotes a reader of his who’d suggested that “female career obsession [is] a form of infidelity to the family and marrage.” Roissy seconds this opinion and goes on to argue that:

Women who place their careers front and center are committing a kind of betrayal of their sex’s biological and psychological imperatives. It’s like a big middle finger to everything that distinguishes the feminine from the masculine, the yin from the yang.

Is it possible that these women are just, you know, really into their careers? That they’re good at what they do and enjoy doing it? That they want to make a difference in the world? That they might have a family to support? Or that, you know, they simply like making a lot of money?

Of course not. For Roissy, careers are little more than psychological crutches for women who are 1) trying to distract themselves from loneliness and/or sexual boredom:

It’s quite possible that the worst offenders — the 14 hour day lawyercunts and the graduate school hermits — embrace the male-oriented rat race and achievement spectacle because it offers a welcome distraction from either spinsterly loneliness or boring beta male partners who, while intellectually are rationalized as good matches, do not viscerally excite them.

Or, 2) imagining themselves as the heroines in some glamorous romance novel:

Maybe, too, these careerist chicks see their jobs as a way to enter the world of the alpha male, to have a taste of what it would be like to be part of his life. The office cubes and doormen and glassy skyscrapers have given legions of plain janes the daily stimulation to mentally masturbate fantasy romances with the alpha males who run their companies or the alpha salesmen who greet them at the front desk with a twinkle in their eyes.

Or, 3) trying to magically ward off the case of the uglies that apparently infects each and every woman when she hits the age of 40:

When a woman’s SMV [Sexual Market Value] inevitably craters in her 40s, her career might be all she has to lift her spirits, especially if she has no husband she loves, no kids, or even just one kid who spends most of his time playing CoD or robbing convenience stores.

Of course, in Roissy’s mind, these women aren’t quite women to begin with, even before they get hit with the 40th birthday ugly stick:

 [T]here is something “off” about women who are excessively devoted to their careers and to obtaining an acronymic parade of pointless credentials. Careerist shrikes are some of the most unpleasant, unfeminine women to be around. They must have more androgen receptors than normal women to be so grating to the male sensibility. Sure, they can fuck like Viagra-laced male pornstars, but as soon as you relieve yourself in them you will feel a second powerful urge to escape their aggro nastiness.

Yeah, somehow I’m guessing that urge to flee is pretty strong in these women as well, as soon as they realize that they guy they’ve just had sex with is a pretentious narcissistic windbag who hates women.

Roissy continues, revealing far more about his own sexual insecurities than about any actual career women:

The women for whom career success is their comfort and their purpose are some sort of weird, monstrous amalgam of man and woman, halfway between both worlds, their sexual polarity askew. These types tend to attract either intense short term flings with alphas or plodding marriages with dweeby, effete kitchen bitches.

Roissy is vaguely aware that feminists – not to mention pretty much anyone who isn’t a complete douchebag misogynist – might have a few issues with his theories here.

The dumbfuck feminists will naturally ask, “Why doesn’t this same theory apply to men? Aren’t they escaping sad love lives by retreating to their careers?”

Don’t you know it’s different for guys? Unlike women, men are evolutionarily programmed to be resource providers for women. It is not a betrayal of a man’s innate purpose in life to ambitiously pursue achievement and accolades. In fact, just the opposite; it’s an affirmation of that ancient purpose.

Remember this, you ungrateful career ladies: WE HUNTED THE MAMMOTH TO FEED YOU!

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Ami Angelwings
13 years ago

Nobinayamu | June 25, 2011 at 2:55 am
Also, I read the Henry Makow essay on how all non-procreative, non-monogamous, heterosexual sex was essentially just homosexual sex. I disagree.

Why? It’s true xD We’re advancing further and further xD Soon, ALL sexual acts will be homosexual sex, procreation or not xD

Lyn
Lyn
13 years ago

Oh, riiiight, anal sex is just inherently sadistic. Why is that – because it’s not for makin’ babies?

Ami Angelwings
13 years ago

I think we should just replace these outdated terms w/ Amisexual 😀

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
13 years ago

@Lyn:

Pretty much. I’ll bet if you have PiV sex, and it doesn’t result in a pregnancy, that is also gay sex. And sadistic.

Ami Angelwings
13 years ago

since we all know everybody wants me neways xD

Ami Angelwings
13 years ago

or maybe Amismexual…

Amisensual? 😮

Amicentrical! 😀

Lyn
Lyn
13 years ago

I know plenty of women who regularly work 14 hour days. One in particular is an insomniac so regularly gets up and works to 5am…then gets up later that morning and goes to work again.

Ami Angelwings
13 years ago

w00t! another page! 😀

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
13 years ago

kirbywarp | June 25, 2011 at 2:53 am

@AWS:

Still giggling over this. I even directly linked to and summed up two of the articles at your makow website. More than you, you conspiratorial shill.

kirbywarp | June 25, 2011 at 2:57 am

@AWS:

Alright, give me a straight (snicker) answer, please. Does homosexual mean “having sex with somone of the same gender?” (Don’t get me started on sadistic rituals, go bug holly if you really need to get topped)

Just for your viewing pleasure, AWS. You still haven’t responded to that first bit. You gonna retract your statement about me not putting in the same effort as you? No. No you aren’t

Ami Angelwings
13 years ago

Lyn you left out the dash -__- it’s 1 – 4 hour days… no woman works more than 4… that would be misogyny!

Ami Angelwings
13 years ago

Kirby, you’re gay. Just accept it. The ray worked.

xD

Lyn
Lyn
13 years ago

Lol@ Ami – obviously that was a typo! I also don’t know any *lazy* men who work 8 hour days (you know, the ones they have labour laws about?!)

AWS
AWS
13 years ago

“I think they know more about whether or not I’m fit to lead, than you do. ”

They don’t. Your paragraph structure indicated you are a poor leader and should not be leading children anywhere.

“I cook very well”

If that is the case you would cook all the meals. You boyfriend will cheat on you.

“A family church is not a place that you just leave.

right, which is why you are in a cult and have a unhealthy fascination of with cub scouts and boys who you can boss around.

“Now, I am not religious”

You are a sadist which is why you boss around 9 year old boys. You would absolutely be kicked out if you revealed what boys you are brainwashing.

PosterformerlyknownasElizabeth

After that last thing from AWSo, I keep hearing Inigo: You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

Ami Angelwings
13 years ago

there’s a giant target just hanging out there… xD c”mmmoonnnnn trolly! xD

my rodeo cat ears are in the shop >_>

*puts on bunny ears* goooo rodeo bunny! 😀

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
13 years ago

@Ami,

It’s true, its true, the gay ray (or gray for short) worked just as it was supposed to. I now enjoy penises of all sorts, and vaginas are now squicky. I’m going to have to read up on how gay people are more violent now, I’m usually a big fluffy puppy. ^_^

No.. Bad kirby.. >:D

There we go.

Ami Angelwings
13 years ago

I’m bored. Kirby, you want that blow job or not? >_>;

Lyn
Lyn
13 years ago

Cooking well does not equal feeling an overpowering desire to cook ALL THE TIME. Being in a relationship where both people are good cooks and share the cooking – means that they have more energy to cook interesting things becuase they aren’t burned out from cooking every. single. night. forever.

Nobinayamu
Nobinayamu
13 years ago

Kirby warp, simple risotto recipe. Bear with me; I do a lot things to taste.

Simple Risotto

1 cup Arborio Rice – you can’t substitute anything else
1 medium sized onion
4 cloves a garlic – some people use two, I use four
2 tablespoons of decent olive oil
6 cups of stock – people generally use chicken, vegetable stock will do, beef stock is not recommended, it’s nice if you can have homemade but a decent, low sodium store bought brand will do just fine, and if you can’t find low sodium don’t sweat it, just don’t add additional salt to the dish
2 – 3 table spoons of unsalted butter
1 cup white wine – don’t use cooking wine, it has added salt
Grated parmesean or pecorino cheese to taste
Salt, again to taste and fresh ground black pepper

Dice garlic and onion but keep them separate.

In a heavy pot with deep sides – like a pot you might cook a smaller batch of pasta in- film the bottom with the olive oil and saute the onion over medium heat until translucent. Remember to stir.

In a medium/quart sized sauce pan start heating the stock over low medium heat until it’s steaming and definitely hot, but not simmering or boiling. It just needs to be hot.

When the onion is soft and translucent, add the garlic and stir just until the garlic begins to brown.

Add the cup of arborio rice and shake it until it is a single layer along the bottom of the pot. Stir gently over the heat, until the rice is pearly and slightly translucent and is releasing a pleasant nutty smell. This takes about five minutes

Add the cup of white wine and stir until it is completely evaporated.

Using a ladle or measuring cup, pour a cup or two of the hot stock in with the rice. Stir gently but constantly until the liquid is completely absorbed.

Now -and this is the time consuming part- add about a cup of stock to the pot and repeat this process. Add the stock, stir until absorbed, add the stock, stir until absorbed.

The rice will release its own starch and the risotto will gain a creamy consistency. Just keep doing it slowly until you’ve added all the stock. Stir in the butter if you’d like (some people don’t like to finish with butter) taste it. Add a little salt if you like, and fresh ground pepper. Serve with the grated cheese and a nice salad. Or a roasted vegetable in the winter time.

Easy as pie, if you follow the steps.

Ami Angelwings
13 years ago

I’m such an awesome cook that I can cook while I shower AND while I sleep (and shower while I sleep!) xD

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
13 years ago

@Ami:

Well, not anymore, the gray turned me gay! I’m into men playing with my penis now. (ironic outcome, success!)

@AWS:

Funny, you make all these assertions, yet fail to provide any links! You’re slipping, friend.

Lyn
Lyn
13 years ago

I feel that cunnilingus is being seriously discriminated against in this thread.

PosterformerlyknownasElizabeth

13 does the cooking in our relationship-I hate cooking even though I am AWESOME at it.

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
13 years ago

@Nobinayamu:

Thanks for the recipe. The white wine and the ARborio Rice might be a little hard to come by, but I’ll sure try to give it a shot. 🙂

Ami Angelwings
13 years ago

I can teach ppl on how to make my super sekrit lo shui sauce! :3 (in Chinese it literally means old water >_>) it is a sauce you use to cook all sorts of things in (hard boiled eggs, daikon, beef shank, chicken legs) and reserve after you’re done and put it in the fridge… it gains flavour as you keep cooking w/ it :3 and you can keep it for quite a long time b/c you keep boiling it 😀 (some families keep their sauces for years… tho you do keep adding to it since it does reduce w/ use)

once you have it, you can make dinner pretty easy, just plop stuff in and let it boil and simmer for an hour or 2…

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