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Career women: A crime against nature?

She's trouble!

Quiz: Which of the following is an example of female infidelity? (Check all that apply.)

a)      A man and a woman are in a monogamous relationship; neither one sleeps with anyone else.

b)      A man and a woman are in a monogamous relationship; the man sleeps with someone else.

c)       A man and a woman are in a monogamous relationship; the woman sleeps with someone else.

d)      A woman, who may or may not be in a monogamous relationship, works hard at a job she enjoys.

ANSWER: If you answered c, congratulations! You are correct. If you also answered d, you are probably PUA guru and freelance internet asshole “Roissy” or one of his douchey fans. In a recent post Roissy argues, quite sincerely, that women who take their careers seriously are committing a sort of psycho-social-sexual crime against men.

In the post, Roissy quotes a reader of his who’d suggested that “female career obsession [is] a form of infidelity to the family and marrage.” Roissy seconds this opinion and goes on to argue that:

Women who place their careers front and center are committing a kind of betrayal of their sex’s biological and psychological imperatives. It’s like a big middle finger to everything that distinguishes the feminine from the masculine, the yin from the yang.

Is it possible that these women are just, you know, really into their careers? That they’re good at what they do and enjoy doing it? That they want to make a difference in the world? That they might have a family to support? Or that, you know, they simply like making a lot of money?

Of course not. For Roissy, careers are little more than psychological crutches for women who are 1) trying to distract themselves from loneliness and/or sexual boredom:

It’s quite possible that the worst offenders — the 14 hour day lawyercunts and the graduate school hermits — embrace the male-oriented rat race and achievement spectacle because it offers a welcome distraction from either spinsterly loneliness or boring beta male partners who, while intellectually are rationalized as good matches, do not viscerally excite them.

Or, 2) imagining themselves as the heroines in some glamorous romance novel:

Maybe, too, these careerist chicks see their jobs as a way to enter the world of the alpha male, to have a taste of what it would be like to be part of his life. The office cubes and doormen and glassy skyscrapers have given legions of plain janes the daily stimulation to mentally masturbate fantasy romances with the alpha males who run their companies or the alpha salesmen who greet them at the front desk with a twinkle in their eyes.

Or, 3) trying to magically ward off the case of the uglies that apparently infects each and every woman when she hits the age of 40:

When a woman’s SMV [Sexual Market Value] inevitably craters in her 40s, her career might be all she has to lift her spirits, especially if she has no husband she loves, no kids, or even just one kid who spends most of his time playing CoD or robbing convenience stores.

Of course, in Roissy’s mind, these women aren’t quite women to begin with, even before they get hit with the 40th birthday ugly stick:

 [T]here is something “off” about women who are excessively devoted to their careers and to obtaining an acronymic parade of pointless credentials. Careerist shrikes are some of the most unpleasant, unfeminine women to be around. They must have more androgen receptors than normal women to be so grating to the male sensibility. Sure, they can fuck like Viagra-laced male pornstars, but as soon as you relieve yourself in them you will feel a second powerful urge to escape their aggro nastiness.

Yeah, somehow I’m guessing that urge to flee is pretty strong in these women as well, as soon as they realize that they guy they’ve just had sex with is a pretentious narcissistic windbag who hates women.

Roissy continues, revealing far more about his own sexual insecurities than about any actual career women:

The women for whom career success is their comfort and their purpose are some sort of weird, monstrous amalgam of man and woman, halfway between both worlds, their sexual polarity askew. These types tend to attract either intense short term flings with alphas or plodding marriages with dweeby, effete kitchen bitches.

Roissy is vaguely aware that feminists – not to mention pretty much anyone who isn’t a complete douchebag misogynist – might have a few issues with his theories here.

The dumbfuck feminists will naturally ask, “Why doesn’t this same theory apply to men? Aren’t they escaping sad love lives by retreating to their careers?”

Don’t you know it’s different for guys? Unlike women, men are evolutionarily programmed to be resource providers for women. It is not a betrayal of a man’s innate purpose in life to ambitiously pursue achievement and accolades. In fact, just the opposite; it’s an affirmation of that ancient purpose.

Remember this, you ungrateful career ladies: WE HUNTED THE MAMMOTH TO FEED YOU!

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kirbywarp
kirbywarp
13 years ago

@Nobinayamu:

Honestly, anything tasty. I am looking for more simple, since, you know, still a student and all, but I do need to cut back a little on my meat intake.. Hmm… I guess whatever tastes good, and is more healthy than non? I think its the sorta thing where once you start it gets easier and easier to do.

AWS
AWS
13 years ago

“I’m an insomniac.”
You mean a feminist insomniac.

“They’re my scouts.”

You own them? they are yours to do whatever you please with them? name the troop and i will have you removed as their cult leader.

“drink beer.”

You have a beer belly? You probably drink beer with 9 year olds.

“I don’t believe that I ever said what it is I do for living.”

You spam blogs for a living?

“I’m a great cook. ”

If so you would not have your boyfriend cook. it’s clear you are a vulgar feminist.

“Google has a post up about my reading skills?”

Yup, they have an ap. It’s on theghostnation.com

Feminism = sadism check out this website: http://www.henrymakow.ca

i have proved my points here. You offer nothing. No research and no debating skills. Why are you directing boys in cub scouts? You are female right?

Nobinayamu
Nobinayamu
13 years ago

Kirbywarp, do you have regular access to a reasonable kitchen, or are you cooking strictly dorm-style; hot-plate, microwave, etc?

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
13 years ago

@Lyn:

I have no idea how even a meta-troll could keep up for this long… Seriously.. I mean, he still hasn’t confirmed, but I think he might be the guy who wrote this. Are we under the control of a satanist cult, a conspiracy theory to monstrous to believe? The answer may surprise you.

Yes.. Yes we are.

Pecunium
13 years ago

Ami: Tomorrow, I have to get some sleep now.

Nobinayamu
Nobinayamu
13 years ago

Lyn, this guy is amazing! Did you see the feminist definition list?

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
13 years ago

@Nobinayamu:

I’ve got a reasonable kitchen, actually. Stove, plus my own pan, pot with steamer, and various other stuff like spatulas and knives. The dorm I’m at also has a big wok and rice cookers, which is kinda awesome. I haven’t been big on using the rice cookers though, since I’m not used to it yet.

Ami Angelwings
13 years ago

Cashew Chicken

Ingredients:

1 boneless, skinless chicken breast, diced
1 small green pepper, chopped into squares
1 cup diced, peeled celery
5 slices of ginger
1/2 cup unsalted cashew nuts

1 tsp baking soda

Marinade:
1 tsp cornstarch
1/2 tsp Chinese cooking wine

Sauce:
1/2 tbsp oyster sauce
3/4 tsp soy sauce
3 tbsp water
dash of black pepper
1/2 tsp Chinese cooking wine
1/8 tsp sesame oil

1. Marinade the diced chicken breast in the baking soda for 20 minutes and then rinse the chicken clean of the baking soda.

2. Pat dry the chicken with paper towels and then marinate it in the cornstarch and chinese cooking wine for another 20 minutes.

3. Mix the sauce ingredients together and set aside.

4. On high heat, heat up 1 tbsp of cooking oil in a wok, and then stir fry the chicken breast until it is half cooked. Set aside.

5. Heat up another tbsp of cooking oil and add in the green peppers, celery and ginger and stir fry until you smell the peppery aroma of the peppers.

6. Add the chicken back in and then the cashew nuts and do a few more stirs.

7. Add in the sauce and stir fry until chicken is fully cooked. Dish out and eat 😀

PosterformerlyknownasElizabeth

All of your points are illogical AWSo…what type of drugs are you using again?

Ami Angelwings
13 years ago

This one is pretty easy since you just throw everything together after you have the ingredients xD I used to make it all the time for a simple supper (well simple for me, I have these ingredients around a lot xD )

Ami’s Vegetarian Fujian Tofu

Ingredients:
1 1/2 cup frozen peas
1/2 can broken straw mushrooms
1/2 can shitake mushrooms (you can use soaked dry or fresh shitake mushrooms too, but the can ones work best for this recipe), thinly sliced (bout 6-8 mushrooms)
1/3 cup thinly diced brocolli or chinese brocolli stems
1lb/454g/16oz block of medium firm tofu, cut into small cubes

Sauce:
1 1/2 cup vegetable or chicken stock
1 tbsp cornstarch
1 1/2 tsp oyster sauce
1 tsp soy sauce
1/4 tsp sesame oil

1. mix the sauce ingredients together and set aside

2. bring about 1/4 cup water in a medium saucepan to boil and add in peas, both mushrooms and brocolli stem

3. cover and let steam until peas have hydrated, then add in tofu and let stand for a few more minutes (if the water starts running out, add a little more)

4. add in sauce, and stir well, let simmer for 5 minutes

5. Done! Eat 😀

Ami Angelwings
13 years ago

@Pecunium no rush :3 I think I have most of it down neways :3

AWS
AWS
13 years ago

“Yes.. Yes we are.”

Talk to me in ten years kirby. You will be divorced or working for the government as a shill. i suggest you work for the cia. they need a few cover-up artists. Anti-feminist will build cool stuff which you and your heterophobe ilk will try and break.

Ami Angelwings
13 years ago

That’s just plain wrong… I alrdy promised him that I wouldn’t divorce him until 11 years later >_>

xD

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
13 years ago

@AWS:

Actually, I was thinking more NSA. They have more of the techno-stuff I’m jonesing for. Serious question though. Are you Henry Makow, or was the link just you throwing up a smoke screen, and we can’t know for sure that you are actually an anti-feminist?

AWS
AWS
13 years ago
kirbywarp
kirbywarp
13 years ago

@Ami:

You said 12! 12!!! That’s it, I can’t trust you, we’re through.

@Ami again:

Sadly, tofu is also kinda a no-no for me, really don’t like the taste.. But thanks for the chicken recipe, maybe my chicken won’t taste like terrible anymore 😛

Ami Angelwings
13 years ago

This is v tasty tofu tho! :3 it’s not like a tofu burger or nething… i promise

Nobinayamu
Nobinayamu
13 years ago

ASW, well, yes. I’m a feminist. And an insomniac. So, sure, I’m a feminist insomniac. What ever floats your boat.

I don’t own them; I’m their scout leader. Most scout leaders refer to their troop as “their scouts” or, at leader meetings “our scouts.” It isn’t proprietary so much as declarative. And, um, going back and forth with you on the internet is cool and all, but I’m not going to name my our troops number or location for you. Not because I think you could have me removed but because -all kidding aside- you seem mentally unstable. I’m not going to risk the well being of the children I work with.

I mentioned specifically that my adult friends like to drink beer. I guess the “drink beer with 9 year olds” thing was your attempt at being clever? Okay then. I’m sure your 1,000 internet friends think you’re hilarious.

You can get paid to spam internet blogs? Why am I only just now finding out about this. I feel a career change coming on.

I cook for my boyfriend and he cooks for me. We cook for each other. Cooking is vulgar too?

I read that. It doesn’t prove that feminism = sadism. Apart from being unstable, I don’t think you know what the word “proof” means. Allow me to redirect you to http://www.dictionary.com Your vocabulary words for the evening are: proof, feminist, and woman.

I am directing boys in cub scouts because my father has been a Scout master and leader for more than 15 years and when he needed another co-leader to work with cub scouts, none of the men at our family church were interested. I am a female.

Ami Angelwings
13 years ago

@Kirbywarp you can’t break up w/ me!

*looks around in desperation*

HE RAPED ME!!!!

THROW HIM IN JAIL!

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
13 years ago

@AWS:

Did you actually read the article you linked to? It answers your question, or at least offers a suggestion. And it has to do with the social and corporate pressures put on women that us feminists are trying to fight.

Ami Angelwings
13 years ago

@Nobinayamu I own my scouts… what’s wrong with you!? xD What kind of a feminist are you? >:|

AWS
AWS
13 years ago

I know for sure you are feminist which is why i have been here so long. As far as the NSA goes only join if you want to carry out false flag operations such as 9/11. Problem is the economy will be collapsed by then. I suggest you work for Obongo on his reelection.

Nobinayamu
Nobinayamu
13 years ago

Ami, that recipe for cashew chicken looks amazing. I’m copying it, and breaking out my wok. Kirby, have you ever made risotto? You mentioned wanting to eat less meat.

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
13 years ago

@AWS:

Not the question I asked. Are you Henry Makow, or not? If not, where are the links that show you are actually an anti-feminist? 😛

Lyn
Lyn
13 years ago

I did read the list – still shaking my head over it. Sooo contradictory. I will say though, Kirby, that link certainly does have similar leaps of *logic*!

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