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Career women: A crime against nature?

She's trouble!

Quiz: Which of the following is an example of female infidelity? (Check all that apply.)

a)      A man and a woman are in a monogamous relationship; neither one sleeps with anyone else.

b)      A man and a woman are in a monogamous relationship; the man sleeps with someone else.

c)       A man and a woman are in a monogamous relationship; the woman sleeps with someone else.

d)      A woman, who may or may not be in a monogamous relationship, works hard at a job she enjoys.

ANSWER: If you answered c, congratulations! You are correct. If you also answered d, you are probably PUA guru and freelance internet asshole “Roissy” or one of his douchey fans. In a recent post Roissy argues, quite sincerely, that women who take their careers seriously are committing a sort of psycho-social-sexual crime against men.

In the post, Roissy quotes a reader of his who’d suggested that “female career obsession [is] a form of infidelity to the family and marrage.” Roissy seconds this opinion and goes on to argue that:

Women who place their careers front and center are committing a kind of betrayal of their sex’s biological and psychological imperatives. It’s like a big middle finger to everything that distinguishes the feminine from the masculine, the yin from the yang.

Is it possible that these women are just, you know, really into their careers? That they’re good at what they do and enjoy doing it? That they want to make a difference in the world? That they might have a family to support? Or that, you know, they simply like making a lot of money?

Of course not. For Roissy, careers are little more than psychological crutches for women who are 1) trying to distract themselves from loneliness and/or sexual boredom:

It’s quite possible that the worst offenders — the 14 hour day lawyercunts and the graduate school hermits — embrace the male-oriented rat race and achievement spectacle because it offers a welcome distraction from either spinsterly loneliness or boring beta male partners who, while intellectually are rationalized as good matches, do not viscerally excite them.

Or, 2) imagining themselves as the heroines in some glamorous romance novel:

Maybe, too, these careerist chicks see their jobs as a way to enter the world of the alpha male, to have a taste of what it would be like to be part of his life. The office cubes and doormen and glassy skyscrapers have given legions of plain janes the daily stimulation to mentally masturbate fantasy romances with the alpha males who run their companies or the alpha salesmen who greet them at the front desk with a twinkle in their eyes.

Or, 3) trying to magically ward off the case of the uglies that apparently infects each and every woman when she hits the age of 40:

When a woman’s SMV [Sexual Market Value] inevitably craters in her 40s, her career might be all she has to lift her spirits, especially if she has no husband she loves, no kids, or even just one kid who spends most of his time playing CoD or robbing convenience stores.

Of course, in Roissy’s mind, these women aren’t quite women to begin with, even before they get hit with the 40th birthday ugly stick:

 [T]here is something “off” about women who are excessively devoted to their careers and to obtaining an acronymic parade of pointless credentials. Careerist shrikes are some of the most unpleasant, unfeminine women to be around. They must have more androgen receptors than normal women to be so grating to the male sensibility. Sure, they can fuck like Viagra-laced male pornstars, but as soon as you relieve yourself in them you will feel a second powerful urge to escape their aggro nastiness.

Yeah, somehow I’m guessing that urge to flee is pretty strong in these women as well, as soon as they realize that they guy they’ve just had sex with is a pretentious narcissistic windbag who hates women.

Roissy continues, revealing far more about his own sexual insecurities than about any actual career women:

The women for whom career success is their comfort and their purpose are some sort of weird, monstrous amalgam of man and woman, halfway between both worlds, their sexual polarity askew. These types tend to attract either intense short term flings with alphas or plodding marriages with dweeby, effete kitchen bitches.

Roissy is vaguely aware that feminists – not to mention pretty much anyone who isn’t a complete douchebag misogynist – might have a few issues with his theories here.

The dumbfuck feminists will naturally ask, “Why doesn’t this same theory apply to men? Aren’t they escaping sad love lives by retreating to their careers?”

Don’t you know it’s different for guys? Unlike women, men are evolutionarily programmed to be resource providers for women. It is not a betrayal of a man’s innate purpose in life to ambitiously pursue achievement and accolades. In fact, just the opposite; it’s an affirmation of that ancient purpose.

Remember this, you ungrateful career ladies: WE HUNTED THE MAMMOTH TO FEED YOU!

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AWS
AWS
13 years ago

” Pick a topic. Pick your evidence. Make your case. Then its a debate.:

I provided links to your summery. Now provide your research. You can’t keep up.

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
13 years ago

@AWS:

Here it is again, just in case you weren’t paying attention.

http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/

Now, go off an read through. I’ll bet at least half of those articles directly contradict your views. Like I said, we can wait.

Ami Angelwings
13 years ago

xD he’s avoiding the open questions… he’s doing the gish gallop… he’s doing the “i showed you mine, now show me yours” xDDDD

also apparently there’s a feminist-Jewish conspiracy xD

AWS
AWS
13 years ago

denelian

Shouting in all caps is a sign of your feminist shouting and lack of self-control associated with drug addicts. Did you vote for Obongo?

Ami Angelwings
13 years ago

and he adds in the little insulting jabs to hide the fact that he doesn’t answer what nebody says xD

Ami Angelwings
13 years ago

Uh oh.. we’re DRUG ADDICTED ZIONISTS!

ITS FUNNY THAT HE KEEPS IGNORING THE PERSON WHO TALKS MOST LIKE SHE’S ON DRUGS! xDDD

Bee
Bee
13 years ago

“HBO stands for Humongous Body Odor because the shows on HBO are created by feminists.”

OH MY GOD, this is the best thing ever. Deadwood is feminist! True Blood is feminist! The Sopranos is feminist! A zillion points to you, Aws/Louie. You actually still belong in a cage, but seriously, you’ve crossed over from only tedious and stupid to pretty damn funny. Tremendous work here tonight.

Ami Angelwings
13 years ago

o_O

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o_O

O_o

ruh roh… coming down….

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
13 years ago

@Ami:

“he’s doing the “i showed you mine, now show me yours””

And like millions of women who’ve gotten similar messages, I’ll responding with a resounding “ew… no thanks.”

Ami Angelwings
13 years ago

@Bee that explains why HBO offered me a show of my own xD stay tuned! 😀

hellkell
hellkell
13 years ago

Kirbywarp, you have the patience of a saint with these fools. They don’t want to debate, I don’t know what they DO want. Do they really think they’ll change our minds and we’ll be all, “Oh my go! You’re right! We’re wrong! We’re not worthy!”

And on that note, it’s been one hell of a week, and I gotta hit the hay. See y’all tomorrow!

AWS
AWS
13 years ago

http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/

Pretty good link. I would say 25% contradict my links.

Nobinayamu
Nobinayamu
13 years ago

She’s a pediatrician. You’re childish, but as you are more than likely over the age of 18, she wouldn’t treat you.

Hey, something we can both agree on: I am not ready to be a mother yet.

What have you got against shoes? Did shoe-making elves kill your father or something?

Here’s how it works dipshit: present an actual argument. Not a word salad that goes “Feminism! Sadism! Zionism! Blowjob! Strap-on! Blargh!, but an actual argument. Make a point. Provide a link to an article that contains not just opinion, invective, and conjecture -but actual data, with actual methodology, and I will be happy to debate you on the topic.

Otherwise, I’m just going to enjoy myself and the other posters, and make fun of you until I’m tired enough to go to sleep.

Ami Angelwings
13 years ago

XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
13 years ago

@hellkell:

G’night, don’t let the zionists and the sadists bite! My patience is variable, but this guy is just too hilarious to pass up. If he actually goes through and reads my link, coming back after a week saying “HA!” then… Best.. Day… EVER!

Ami Angelwings
13 years ago

My turing program has evolved! xD

Ami Angelwings
13 years ago

night hellkell! 😀

AWS
AWS
13 years ago

“Deadwood is feminist! True Blood is feminist! The Sopranos is feminist!”

True

Ami Angelwings
13 years ago

Blood.

Bee
Bee
13 years ago

“I provided links to your summery.”

You provided links to our summery what? I’m wearing a summery top right now. Did you provide links to my summery top? If so, thanks. That’s awesome.

Ami: I wanna watch it now! Is it one of those peeks inside the mind of a creative genius kind of shows? Standup? Talk show? What?

Ami Angelwings
13 years ago

The Last Vampire.

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
13 years ago

@AWS:

So now what? We’ve presented each other with entire blogs filled with conflicting information. Are we at a mexican standoff?

Mr. Kobold
Mr. Kobold
13 years ago

This loser’s links basically consist of one of those cliched forums socially-handicapped guys go to with their dreams of getting an Eastern European mail-order bride.

Not much chance of “research” there.

Bee
Bee
13 years ago

Oh wow, you know what I just realized? Bill Maher, the anti-feminist who hates women, is feminist.

Nobinayamu
Nobinayamu
13 years ago

I love that he came back five minutes later and claimed that he’d read the entirety of the Feministe archive and that 25% of it contradicts his links. Apparently what you link to doesn’t matter. As long as you’ve got links. Links, links, links.

Suddenly, I want kielbasa.

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