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Career women: A crime against nature?

She's trouble!

Quiz: Which of the following is an example of female infidelity? (Check all that apply.)

a)      A man and a woman are in a monogamous relationship; neither one sleeps with anyone else.

b)      A man and a woman are in a monogamous relationship; the man sleeps with someone else.

c)       A man and a woman are in a monogamous relationship; the woman sleeps with someone else.

d)      A woman, who may or may not be in a monogamous relationship, works hard at a job she enjoys.

ANSWER: If you answered c, congratulations! You are correct. If you also answered d, you are probably PUA guru and freelance internet asshole “Roissy” or one of his douchey fans. In a recent post Roissy argues, quite sincerely, that women who take their careers seriously are committing a sort of psycho-social-sexual crime against men.

In the post, Roissy quotes a reader of his who’d suggested that “female career obsession [is] a form of infidelity to the family and marrage.” Roissy seconds this opinion and goes on to argue that:

Women who place their careers front and center are committing a kind of betrayal of their sex’s biological and psychological imperatives. It’s like a big middle finger to everything that distinguishes the feminine from the masculine, the yin from the yang.

Is it possible that these women are just, you know, really into their careers? That they’re good at what they do and enjoy doing it? That they want to make a difference in the world? That they might have a family to support? Or that, you know, they simply like making a lot of money?

Of course not. For Roissy, careers are little more than psychological crutches for women who are 1) trying to distract themselves from loneliness and/or sexual boredom:

It’s quite possible that the worst offenders — the 14 hour day lawyercunts and the graduate school hermits — embrace the male-oriented rat race and achievement spectacle because it offers a welcome distraction from either spinsterly loneliness or boring beta male partners who, while intellectually are rationalized as good matches, do not viscerally excite them.

Or, 2) imagining themselves as the heroines in some glamorous romance novel:

Maybe, too, these careerist chicks see their jobs as a way to enter the world of the alpha male, to have a taste of what it would be like to be part of his life. The office cubes and doormen and glassy skyscrapers have given legions of plain janes the daily stimulation to mentally masturbate fantasy romances with the alpha males who run their companies or the alpha salesmen who greet them at the front desk with a twinkle in their eyes.

Or, 3) trying to magically ward off the case of the uglies that apparently infects each and every woman when she hits the age of 40:

When a woman’s SMV [Sexual Market Value] inevitably craters in her 40s, her career might be all she has to lift her spirits, especially if she has no husband she loves, no kids, or even just one kid who spends most of his time playing CoD or robbing convenience stores.

Of course, in Roissy’s mind, these women aren’t quite women to begin with, even before they get hit with the 40th birthday ugly stick:

 [T]here is something “off” about women who are excessively devoted to their careers and to obtaining an acronymic parade of pointless credentials. Careerist shrikes are some of the most unpleasant, unfeminine women to be around. They must have more androgen receptors than normal women to be so grating to the male sensibility. Sure, they can fuck like Viagra-laced male pornstars, but as soon as you relieve yourself in them you will feel a second powerful urge to escape their aggro nastiness.

Yeah, somehow I’m guessing that urge to flee is pretty strong in these women as well, as soon as they realize that they guy they’ve just had sex with is a pretentious narcissistic windbag who hates women.

Roissy continues, revealing far more about his own sexual insecurities than about any actual career women:

The women for whom career success is their comfort and their purpose are some sort of weird, monstrous amalgam of man and woman, halfway between both worlds, their sexual polarity askew. These types tend to attract either intense short term flings with alphas or plodding marriages with dweeby, effete kitchen bitches.

Roissy is vaguely aware that feminists – not to mention pretty much anyone who isn’t a complete douchebag misogynist – might have a few issues with his theories here.

The dumbfuck feminists will naturally ask, “Why doesn’t this same theory apply to men? Aren’t they escaping sad love lives by retreating to their careers?”

Don’t you know it’s different for guys? Unlike women, men are evolutionarily programmed to be resource providers for women. It is not a betrayal of a man’s innate purpose in life to ambitiously pursue achievement and accolades. In fact, just the opposite; it’s an affirmation of that ancient purpose.

Remember this, you ungrateful career ladies: WE HUNTED THE MAMMOTH TO FEED YOU!

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kirbywarp
kirbywarp
13 years ago

@AWS:

You don’t have a topic you are debating. You’re just putting up a huge flurry of assertions, then putting up what appears to be the equivalent of links to the spearhead as proof. So here’s the deal. Pick a topic. Pick your evidence. Make your case. Then its a debate.

Bee
Bee
13 years ago

Oh yeah … or of course it could be Not any of thoWse user-Os.

Nobinayamu
Nobinayamu
13 years ago

Hey, AWS, if I can provide a link that shows that mermaids are real, will you debate the issue with me?

Ami Angelwings
13 years ago

My link is every single article out there that does not mention or contradicts the way you hinted you believe the world to work (as laid out by Kirby). xDD

I can Gish Gallop too xDDD

*taps some islands*

xDDDDD

hellkell
hellkell
13 years ago

Why on earth should we take you seriously? You’re the equivalent of a guest who shows up and shits on the carpet.

Like Nobinayamu said, I think we’ll do just fine without you if you go. Whatever place that is, their gain is their loss.

Ami Angelwings
13 years ago

why is it so important to convince us neways? we’re all benefiting from this supposed system, and so are the Jews! It’s awesome! <3

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
13 years ago

hellkell:

He’s not just shitting on the topic, he’s stripping naked, lying spread eagle on the floor while whistling “Onward Christian Soldier” who stands up, defecates, and shouts “I’ve presented my evidence! Where is yours?!?!?!?”

denelian
13 years ago

AWS;

what the holy fuck?!?! i don’t know a SINGLE feminist who is NOT wanting clean energy. as a matter of fact, the people who advocate MOST for clean energy, more recycling, using sustainable resources, etc etc etc ARE FEMINISTS.

anti-feminists, by definition, are people who oppose the idea that women are PEOPLE, TOO. because that’s what feminism *IS* – the radical notion that women are people, with rights and responsibilities to men. and it has grown to a movement dedicated to creating a society where EVERYONE is judged solely on their individual capability, irregardless of sex, gender, orientation, “race”, nationality, “ethnicity”, religion, creed, or able-ness [as opposed to ability. i am incredibly disabled. i can’t *SIT* for more than about an hour – but i can still write. in fact, if i could find a place that would let me write from home and pay me a living wage, i could, IN THEORY, work. instead, i spent 15 years working my ass off – and the last 6 years before i became completely disabled, i went to school full time while working anywhere from 30 to 80 hours per week, averaging 50 on top of school… and then instead of working, became disabled. and it SUCKS, because if i were to be judged SOLELY on my ability to do the work, without being required to go *IN* to a job and SIT, i’d be ABLE to work and support myself instead of being on disability. sadly, this isn’t the case at the moment, but we’re still trying to FIX IT! so i can work and not be on disability]

anti-feminism is working to get rid of all of the above – NO equal work for women or minorities of any kind. anti-feminism is running rampant, i conceed this – look at the “fetal personhood” bill in Congress, trying to claim that zygotes are “persons” from CONCEPTION [when HALF of conceptions don’t even IMPLANT! and then 25% of implanted pregnancies, at LEAST, miscarry, mostly before the pregnant person knows that zie is pregnant…] look at the defunding of Planned Parenthood, so that poor women no longer have access to repro health – and for MANY women, PP was the ONLY medical people they saw – and mostly for yearly paps and BC, *NOT* abortion [i know that they *DO* exist, but i have literally never been to a PP that does abortion]. look at the subsidies that are STILL being given to oil companies, and coal, and NOT being given to water, wind and solar power. and look at WHO is giving those subsidies – it’s NOT feminists who are doing so!

[i just wasted 10 minutes of my life, didn’t I? sigh]

Ami Angelwings
13 years ago

@hellkell except this carpet has traps xD that’s why he’s being so circumspect xD

hellkell
hellkell
13 years ago

Kirbywarp: that created quite the mental image. Bravo!

Ami Angelwings
13 years ago

He’s goiNg to ansWer denelian nOw xD and ignore the rest of us xD

hellkell
hellkell
13 years ago

Ami, of course. It’s the super special trap laden Feminist Carpet of DOOM. I’d be careful too. xD

AWS
AWS
13 years ago

“not all career women work in the field of business. I certainly don’t. ”

Of course you don’t. You need to read your history. Read about Zionism, read about how the NWO created feminism which actually hurts women.

I am not MRA or mgtow.

Everyone knows mgtow are scumbag misogynists.

Show me your links. So far you have not offered me any insight while I have provided hundreds of articles supporting my views. You need to do the research. Look at how women are being set-up. Why is Islam growing so fast? Seriously, answer that question with article links.

Anti-feminists are lifelong learners while feminists are not.

HBO stands for Humongous Body Odor because the shows on HBO are created by feminists.

Ami Angelwings
13 years ago

my links are these: EVERY ARTICLE IN EVERY NEWSPAPER OUT THERE WHERE YOUR CONSPIRACY IS NOT MENTIONED OR REPORTS ON STUFF CONTRADICTING IT xD

that plus reality xDDD

I’ve provided MILLIONS of links right there xD

I think I win xD

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
13 years ago

@AWS:

Alright, AWS, we’ll do it your way. First, read this link, then get back to us for a debate. We’ll be waiting. ^__^

http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/

hellkell
hellkell
13 years ago

This has got to be NWO. Maybe he’s been drinking.

Ami Angelwings
13 years ago

why should we care about convincing him neways? or countering him? xD if we’re right, then the world isn’t even CLOSE to what he claims and no harm no foul xD if he’s right, we’re lying about everything we say and living int he lap of blow-job earned luxury and we can have him killed by the Zionists neways xD so what’s the big deal? xD

this is what i never understand… why should we give a flying fadoo? xD

mind you as I said this is a familiar dynamic xD

Nobinayamu
Nobinayamu
13 years ago

What the hell does HBO have to do with anything?

Ami Angelwings
13 years ago

nebody who gets the flying fadoo reference btw gets a billion Ami points <3

AWS
AWS
13 years ago

“My sister loves it, but she’s a doctor. ”

Remind me not to ever use her services.

” I exercise mine by using birth control and condoms.”

Thank God.

“I do have a lot of shoes, though. I will not lie.”

Of course you do.

Still no research skill on your part. Show me with articles why you disagree with my statements. i like to read way more then you do.

Ami Angelwings
13 years ago

oh come on hellkell xD just go ahead and say it! -_-;;;

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
13 years ago

@Ami:

“living in the lap of blow-job earned luxury”

Man, I need to get in a position of power quick. So I can “hire” more women! I’m a feminist!

hellkell
hellkell
13 years ago

Next he’ll be talking about pedicures and silky drawers.

Nobinayamu
Nobinayamu
13 years ago

AWS, mermaids are totally real:

http://mermaid-williambond.blogspot.com/?zx=f779bb3ef31c4ad8

Now read through those articles and get back to me and we can debate.

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
13 years ago

@AWS:

I just provided a whole blog full of articles for you to read! And I’ll bet at least half of them directly contradict your views. Like I said, go and read, them come back for a debate. We’ll wait. ^__^

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