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Career women: A crime against nature?

She's trouble!

Quiz: Which of the following is an example of female infidelity? (Check all that apply.)

a)      A man and a woman are in a monogamous relationship; neither one sleeps with anyone else.

b)      A man and a woman are in a monogamous relationship; the man sleeps with someone else.

c)       A man and a woman are in a monogamous relationship; the woman sleeps with someone else.

d)      A woman, who may or may not be in a monogamous relationship, works hard at a job she enjoys.

ANSWER: If you answered c, congratulations! You are correct. If you also answered d, you are probably PUA guru and freelance internet asshole “Roissy” or one of his douchey fans. In a recent post Roissy argues, quite sincerely, that women who take their careers seriously are committing a sort of psycho-social-sexual crime against men.

In the post, Roissy quotes a reader of his who’d suggested that “female career obsession [is] a form of infidelity to the family and marrage.” Roissy seconds this opinion and goes on to argue that:

Women who place their careers front and center are committing a kind of betrayal of their sex’s biological and psychological imperatives. It’s like a big middle finger to everything that distinguishes the feminine from the masculine, the yin from the yang.

Is it possible that these women are just, you know, really into their careers? That they’re good at what they do and enjoy doing it? That they want to make a difference in the world? That they might have a family to support? Or that, you know, they simply like making a lot of money?

Of course not. For Roissy, careers are little more than psychological crutches for women who are 1) trying to distract themselves from loneliness and/or sexual boredom:

It’s quite possible that the worst offenders — the 14 hour day lawyercunts and the graduate school hermits — embrace the male-oriented rat race and achievement spectacle because it offers a welcome distraction from either spinsterly loneliness or boring beta male partners who, while intellectually are rationalized as good matches, do not viscerally excite them.

Or, 2) imagining themselves as the heroines in some glamorous romance novel:

Maybe, too, these careerist chicks see their jobs as a way to enter the world of the alpha male, to have a taste of what it would be like to be part of his life. The office cubes and doormen and glassy skyscrapers have given legions of plain janes the daily stimulation to mentally masturbate fantasy romances with the alpha males who run their companies or the alpha salesmen who greet them at the front desk with a twinkle in their eyes.

Or, 3) trying to magically ward off the case of the uglies that apparently infects each and every woman when she hits the age of 40:

When a woman’s SMV [Sexual Market Value] inevitably craters in her 40s, her career might be all she has to lift her spirits, especially if she has no husband she loves, no kids, or even just one kid who spends most of his time playing CoD or robbing convenience stores.

Of course, in Roissy’s mind, these women aren’t quite women to begin with, even before they get hit with the 40th birthday ugly stick:

 [T]here is something “off” about women who are excessively devoted to their careers and to obtaining an acronymic parade of pointless credentials. Careerist shrikes are some of the most unpleasant, unfeminine women to be around. They must have more androgen receptors than normal women to be so grating to the male sensibility. Sure, they can fuck like Viagra-laced male pornstars, but as soon as you relieve yourself in them you will feel a second powerful urge to escape their aggro nastiness.

Yeah, somehow I’m guessing that urge to flee is pretty strong in these women as well, as soon as they realize that they guy they’ve just had sex with is a pretentious narcissistic windbag who hates women.

Roissy continues, revealing far more about his own sexual insecurities than about any actual career women:

The women for whom career success is their comfort and their purpose are some sort of weird, monstrous amalgam of man and woman, halfway between both worlds, their sexual polarity askew. These types tend to attract either intense short term flings with alphas or plodding marriages with dweeby, effete kitchen bitches.

Roissy is vaguely aware that feminists – not to mention pretty much anyone who isn’t a complete douchebag misogynist – might have a few issues with his theories here.

The dumbfuck feminists will naturally ask, “Why doesn’t this same theory apply to men? Aren’t they escaping sad love lives by retreating to their careers?”

Don’t you know it’s different for guys? Unlike women, men are evolutionarily programmed to be resource providers for women. It is not a betrayal of a man’s innate purpose in life to ambitiously pursue achievement and accolades. In fact, just the opposite; it’s an affirmation of that ancient purpose.

Remember this, you ungrateful career ladies: WE HUNTED THE MAMMOTH TO FEED YOU!

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Ami Angelwings
13 years ago

I hate Men’s Rights Activism because it paints in too broad strokes. When MRAL says “A lot of men (read: me) work a lot harder than anyone else I know, and that includes these supposed Atlas women.” the implication is clear that we’re supposed to see men as all being oppressed and women as lazy fat privileged asswipes. Work in credits. Most women work fucking hard, a lot work harder than men, some of whom are lazy as fuck and worthless sacks.

Jumbofish
Jumbofish
13 years ago

@ mral

for real this time?

or will it be like that time you said you would leave for a couple months and came back in a week?

Bedelia Bloodyknuckle
13 years ago

@Jumbofish That fucker MRAL is like a boomerang no matter how far you throw, he keeps fuckin coming back damnit!

Ami Angelwings
13 years ago

@Jumbofish they never leave when they say they’re done arguing or they can’t change our minds, cuz they just CAN’T HELP finding out what we said about them xD It’s like their version of Gossip Girl or w/e xD

amandajane5
13 years ago

@Ami

Oh, the bathroom. We had separate ones in that relationship, and kept them at a pretty similarly low level of cleanliness, but he spent plenty of time complaining about how dirty mine was, and when I said that maybe he just shouldn’t go in there if it bothered him so much, he had to huff off about how he liked using my hair dryer. Oh, teh wimminz, so vain. 😉

I mean, we evolved to CLEAN BATHROOMS? Is that what we were doing while men were out hunting the mammoth? That is some serious bullshit right there!

If you are still doing magyc cards, I would now officially like one about how I evolved to vacuum and clean bathrooms, if I may. Because clearly that and childcare is the only reason I’m here on the planet! 🙂

sallystrange
13 years ago

Men’s Rights Activist Boomerang Herpes Neverleave Lieutenant.

Bedelia Bloodyknuckle
13 years ago

@ Sally LOLZ!

Ami Angelwings
13 years ago

This is kinda on topic (about women being superficial spendypants on clothing) and since I talk about Star Wars all the time xD

http://www.hentai-foundry.com/pic-99939.html

(it’s not hentai.. and it’s work safe)

I just find this so cute and amusing xD (and it proves that women are just the same as NWO believes in the Star Wars uni too! *GASP* >:O he can use that as proof now XD LOOK LOOK!)

SallyStrange
SallyStrange
13 years ago

But regardless of whether you’re right or not you’re still a misandrist fymynyst asswipe.

Actually, if I’m right and you’re wrong then that means you’re wrong about me being a misandrist fymynyst.

I’m not misandrist because I don’t hate men, only assholes. It’s not my fault if you think that man = asshole.

I’m not a fymynyst because there’s no such thing (except in MRAL’s fevered imagination).

I may be an asswipe though. But I don’t care because I’m RIGHT about a lot of things, because I LOOK THEM UP before spouting off with my opinion! Whereas you are mostly wrong about things because unlike me, you are LAZY.

darksidecat
13 years ago

I currently live in a lower middle class majority black neighborhood, which, by NWOracist standards, probably counts as the ghetto. 🙂

Moving on to other topics, I wonder who is supposed to be targeted by things like this: ” are some sort of weird, monstrous amalgam of man and woman, halfway between both worlds, their sexual polarity askew.” As a genderqueer borderline intersexed person, statements trying to gender shame me have little effect. I can’t imagine that “career women” (that is such a 50s term), if they were actually as described above, would give a rats ass about what some random dude thinks about their level of femininity and their “purpose”.

(PS, Ami, if you make me a Magyc card, feel free to make “some sort of weird, monstrous amalgam of man and woman, halfway between both worlds, their sexual polarity askew” my description. 😉 )

Ami Angelwings
13 years ago

@Darksidecat I have the perfect idea for that >:3

aws
aws
13 years ago

“Is it possible that these women are just, you know, really into their careers?”

Careers that were handed to them after a few strategic blowjobs you mean?

“That they’re good at what they do and enjoy doing it?”

Never met and career woman that has been good at her job. In fact career women are usually the worst at their jobs.

“That they want to make a difference in the world?”

Fact is the collapse of the USA financially was caused by female managers and feminist male CEO’s.

“That they might have a family to support?’

Kids hate career women. Dads are much more supportive.

“Or that, you know, they simply like making a lot of money?’

Women are the worst creatures in the world to do business with.

“careers are little more than psychological crutches for women who are 1) trying to distract themselves from loneliness and/or sexual boredom:”
Correct

“imagining themselves as the heroines’

That is about all they can do as men are the real heroes.

“Remember this, you ungrateful career ladies”

The poor economic condition of the USA is a direct result of female managers. there is nothing uglier then a career woman.

PosterformerlyknownasElizabeth

It does strike me as weird that a career driven woman would be the one that they hate the most as they would be more inclined to tell the guy to get lost after sex and is that not what these men want to do?

Oh I forgot, MEN get to tell women to get lost, the return is not allowed.

Leely
Leely
13 years ago

Hey, MRAL flounced without answering my question!

In case he’s still lurking: my proposition was at least semi-serious. Come down and take primary care of my house and kids while I’m recovering from surgery. It’s a perfect social experiment (and not unlike those ridiculous trading-family-members shows).

I live in a nice house in a nice neighborhood. And hey, I even live in on of the friendliest areas of the country – less chance of being spit on!

PosterformerlyknownasElizabeth

I want a stay at home trophy husband…granted my idea of a trophy is kind of weird.

Bee
Bee
13 years ago

Is it just me, or are trolls these days getting lazier? It’s like, if you really want to provoke us, stop retreading all the same ole MRM woman-hating lines that we’ve all heard a zillion times before. Blah blah blah, women are stinky and I hate them blah blah.

No points for difficulty, execution, or artistry. I’m really in a generous mood tonight. Just give me something to work with.

Victoria von Syrus
Victoria von Syrus
13 years ago

Careers that were handed to them after a few strategic blowjobs you mean?

Citation needed.

Never met and career woman that has been good at her job. In fact career women are usually the worst at their jobs.

Citation needed.

Fact is the collapse of the USA financially was caused by female managers and feminist male CEO’s.

Citation needed.

Kids hate career women. Dads are much more supportive.

Citation needed.

Women are the worst creatures in the world to do business with.

Citation needed.

“careers are little more than psychological crutches for women who are 1) trying to distract themselves from loneliness and/or sexual boredom:”
Correct

Citation needed.

That is about all they can do as men are the real heroes.

Citation needed.

The poor economic condition of the USA is a direct result of female managers. there is nothing uglier then a career woman.

Citation needed.

Captain Bathrobe
13 years ago

I’m leaving. This is stupid.

No, wait, you can’t!

Oh…never mind.

Spearhafoc
13 years ago

Hello Aws.

MRA trolls are like the heads of the Hydra; cut one off and three more take its place.

Victoria von Syrus
Victoria von Syrus
13 years ago

BTW:

Careers that were handed to them after a few strategic blowjobs you mean?

So what you’re saying is that men are terrible at making hiring decisions, and will give an unqualified, incompetent person a position of power in exchange for a few sessions of oral sex? Or that men are incapable of making reasoned decisions in the face of sexual gratification? Men lose all cognitive ability in the face of blowjobs?

I think that’s the most misandrist, man-hating thing I’ve read on this entire thread.

Fuck MRAs
Fuck MRAs
13 years ago

These trolls just dance on command for y’all, don’t they.

Dance, trolls, dance!

Shaenon
13 years ago

Bee
Bee
13 years ago

Shaenon, that’s my favorite Mr. Show skit evar!

Runner-up is the one about the two young people and their companions.

Spearhafoc
13 years ago

Congratulations to New York for doing the right thing.

Ami Angelwings
13 years ago

Bee | June 24, 2011 at 8:25 pm
Is it just me, or are trolls these days getting lazier? It’s like, if you really want to provoke us, stop retreading all the same ole MRM woman-hating lines that we’ve all heard a zillion times before. Blah blah blah, women are stinky and I hate them blah blah.

They are… xD i think they think this upsets us or something xD if nething this just gives me more card fodder!

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