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Career women: A crime against nature?

She's trouble!

Quiz: Which of the following is an example of female infidelity? (Check all that apply.)

a)      A man and a woman are in a monogamous relationship; neither one sleeps with anyone else.

b)      A man and a woman are in a monogamous relationship; the man sleeps with someone else.

c)       A man and a woman are in a monogamous relationship; the woman sleeps with someone else.

d)      A woman, who may or may not be in a monogamous relationship, works hard at a job she enjoys.

ANSWER: If you answered c, congratulations! You are correct. If you also answered d, you are probably PUA guru and freelance internet asshole “Roissy” or one of his douchey fans. In a recent post Roissy argues, quite sincerely, that women who take their careers seriously are committing a sort of psycho-social-sexual crime against men.

In the post, Roissy quotes a reader of his who’d suggested that “female career obsession [is] a form of infidelity to the family and marrage.” Roissy seconds this opinion and goes on to argue that:

Women who place their careers front and center are committing a kind of betrayal of their sex’s biological and psychological imperatives. It’s like a big middle finger to everything that distinguishes the feminine from the masculine, the yin from the yang.

Is it possible that these women are just, you know, really into their careers? That they’re good at what they do and enjoy doing it? That they want to make a difference in the world? That they might have a family to support? Or that, you know, they simply like making a lot of money?

Of course not. For Roissy, careers are little more than psychological crutches for women who are 1) trying to distract themselves from loneliness and/or sexual boredom:

It’s quite possible that the worst offenders — the 14 hour day lawyercunts and the graduate school hermits — embrace the male-oriented rat race and achievement spectacle because it offers a welcome distraction from either spinsterly loneliness or boring beta male partners who, while intellectually are rationalized as good matches, do not viscerally excite them.

Or, 2) imagining themselves as the heroines in some glamorous romance novel:

Maybe, too, these careerist chicks see their jobs as a way to enter the world of the alpha male, to have a taste of what it would be like to be part of his life. The office cubes and doormen and glassy skyscrapers have given legions of plain janes the daily stimulation to mentally masturbate fantasy romances with the alpha males who run their companies or the alpha salesmen who greet them at the front desk with a twinkle in their eyes.

Or, 3) trying to magically ward off the case of the uglies that apparently infects each and every woman when she hits the age of 40:

When a woman’s SMV [Sexual Market Value] inevitably craters in her 40s, her career might be all she has to lift her spirits, especially if she has no husband she loves, no kids, or even just one kid who spends most of his time playing CoD or robbing convenience stores.

Of course, in Roissy’s mind, these women aren’t quite women to begin with, even before they get hit with the 40th birthday ugly stick:

 [T]here is something “off” about women who are excessively devoted to their careers and to obtaining an acronymic parade of pointless credentials. Careerist shrikes are some of the most unpleasant, unfeminine women to be around. They must have more androgen receptors than normal women to be so grating to the male sensibility. Sure, they can fuck like Viagra-laced male pornstars, but as soon as you relieve yourself in them you will feel a second powerful urge to escape their aggro nastiness.

Yeah, somehow I’m guessing that urge to flee is pretty strong in these women as well, as soon as they realize that they guy they’ve just had sex with is a pretentious narcissistic windbag who hates women.

Roissy continues, revealing far more about his own sexual insecurities than about any actual career women:

The women for whom career success is their comfort and their purpose are some sort of weird, monstrous amalgam of man and woman, halfway between both worlds, their sexual polarity askew. These types tend to attract either intense short term flings with alphas or plodding marriages with dweeby, effete kitchen bitches.

Roissy is vaguely aware that feminists – not to mention pretty much anyone who isn’t a complete douchebag misogynist – might have a few issues with his theories here.

The dumbfuck feminists will naturally ask, “Why doesn’t this same theory apply to men? Aren’t they escaping sad love lives by retreating to their careers?”

Don’t you know it’s different for guys? Unlike women, men are evolutionarily programmed to be resource providers for women. It is not a betrayal of a man’s innate purpose in life to ambitiously pursue achievement and accolades. In fact, just the opposite; it’s an affirmation of that ancient purpose.

Remember this, you ungrateful career ladies: WE HUNTED THE MAMMOTH TO FEED YOU!

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Bostonian
Bostonian
10 years ago

So, in his ideal world, what are women who are not marriage material supposed to do, exactly?

speedlines
speedlines
10 years ago

This guy is what, 80 years old?

JoJo
JoJo
10 years ago

Commit hari-kari, apparently.

What gets to me is that the MRA’s don’t get the hypocrisy of 1) claiming that all women are golddigging whores, and 2) condemning any woman who earns a good living.

Captain Bathrobe
Captain Bathrobe
10 years ago

This post is proof once again that MRA/PUA’s contempt for women is equaled only by their dim view of men.

My marriage, in which my wife works full-time, while I work part-time and take care of our kids the rest of the time, must seem like some sort of hellish feminist dystopia to them. Oddly enough, we like it just fine.

Well, maybe not “just fine;” we’d prefer it if we could both get away with working part time, so as to have more time with our kids. Can’t have everything, I guess.

Bee
Bee
10 years ago

I dunno. I suppose that since women are aliens, it’s inconceivable that women take and do and can be fully immersed in jobs for the much same reasons men do these things. No, these not-humans’ primary “job” is to be hot and young and ready for Roissy and his gang of douchebags, and it’s only some kind of disease that makes them try to emulate their superiors by “doin stuff.” It’s not like being “excessively” devoted to anything — including your partner — is unhealthy in itself. And it’s certainly not like achievement in academia and the workplace is a nongendered thing — neither feminine nor masculine. And oh my god is it not at all like any woman’s achievement or wants or success at work or otherwise takes nothing away from men in the bedroom. And of course let us not forget that it is not at all like some women really are asexual, and some men are too, and not everyone is straight and monogamous and cis.

Nope, none of those things are true. What is true is that we should all take life advice from an aging, insecure man who can’t bear to be honest with himself or his readers.

I mean, it’s gotta be a joke. Doesn’t it?

Life is What You Make It
Life is What You Make It
10 years ago

Wow.

This brings to mind a recent post on A Voice for Men calledA Letter to Traditional Women, where the author basically tells women who support MRA’s but don’t work to “Kindly go fuck yourself” that they’re nothing more than “a traditionalist whore seeking to protect the free labor and protection that keeps her on her bon-bon fattened ass” and they’re getting a “free ride on this planet at the expense of the brainwashed bastards whose blood and sweat keeps a pillow under their ass” and that “you should, in all reality, hang your head in shame for being the utter waste of human space that you are”. Then he kindly tells them to “Get the fuck up off your lazy ass and get a job.”

Damned if you do. Damned if you don’t.

ithiliana
10 years ago

Ooh, I get a little shiver of delight at all the wicked wicked wicked things I do!

Did not marry MAN, check.

Have LOTZ of CATZ, check.

Work hard at job I LURVE, checkcheckcheck.

Bwawhahahahahahahahahahahahaha (that’s my Evil Crone Laff, mind you–spent years as SPINSTER perfecting it).

ANd seconding all the posters pointing out the hypocrisy of blaming teh wimminz BOTH for marrying men (goldigging) and for working jobs (NOT goldigging).

They really do want sexbots, don’t they?

Shaenon
10 years ago

So according to this guy whose goofy made-up name I can’t bother to learn to spell, women who work hard at their jobs do so because they love the excitement of the workplace, they want to do something meaningful with their lives in addition to raising a family, and they know it’s useful to have skills and money of their own if the whole white-picket-fence ideal falls apart. Also, having a career makes a woman self-confident and awesome in the sack.

And this is bad.

This is a useful post, though, because my husband finds anti-feminist stuff mystifying, and one of the first things he asked me about Manboobz was, “Why would guys be against women getting equal work for equal pay? Isn’t it better for them if their wives bring home more money?” The answer: no. Because, I don’t know, doing stuff makes women ugly or something.

Amused
Amused
10 years ago

Ahh, Life is What You Make It, but you are ignoring the crucial distinction between a job and a career. In the MRA culture, a woman definitely should have a job, but she must not be educated, and the job should be low-ranking and not pay enough to make the woman economically self-sufficient. It should not, under any circumstances, entail even the slightest possibility that the woman will have authority over men or be in a position to instruct men. So, cleaning hotel rooms — okay. Teaching a college class, no. Practicing law, hell no.

Victoria von Syrus
Victoria von Syrus
10 years ago

Careerist shrikes are some of the most unpleasant, unfeminine women to be around.

Translation: Women who have been educated and have a career usually see through my bullshit faster than younger, more naive women. They won’t do what I tell them, dammit!

Shaenon
10 years ago

So, in his ideal world, what are women who are not marriage material supposed to do, exactly?

It’s not just unmarried women. Remember, every woman becomes a disgusting, inhuman monster when she hits her 40th birthday, if not sooner. Career or no career, family or no family, we’re apparently supposed to kill ourselves the minute the first age lines appear so MRAs don’t have to gaze upon our hideous crone visages.

Sarah Rean
10 years ago

Studies of modern hunter gatherer societies have shown that women provide the majority of the tribe’s food. The men hunt, yes, and bring home meat, but are unsuccessful more often than they are successful.
When a hunting party brought home a successful kill it was a cause for celebration and an opportunity for the men to gain social status but hunting is not a reliable source of food.

(not my original source) http://www.economist.com/node/10278703

Long story short, this is one example among many to show that Roissy is full of shit.

Bedelia Bloodyknuckle
10 years ago

Aww i love my cup of stupidity in the morning.

Men's Rights Activist Lieutenant
Men's Rights Activist Lieutenant
10 years ago

Hmmm…. personally, I’d prefer to stay at home and sit on my ass while my wife goes out and provides for me. So I can’t say I agree with this guy. It’s indicative of women’s pampering and privilege that so many sit on their ass, but for those that want to go out and work, that’s pretty admirable.

Bee
Bee
10 years ago

“that so many sit on their ass”

How do you figure, Mr. Al?

I’m gonna google some figures in a sec, but just anecdotally, I can tell you that the few women I know (myself included) who don’t work are either unemployed because of the recession and looking for work, in school full time, managing a house and family, retired, or chronically disabled.

Same with the men I know, incidentally.

Men's Rights Activist Lieutenant
Men's Rights Activist Lieutenant
10 years ago

No, a lot of women are just lazy as fuck.

Men's Rights Activist Lieutenant
Men's Rights Activist Lieutenant
10 years ago

“Mnaging a house”, wtf? That’s code for “doing jack”. Takes two hours a day AT MOST.

Bedelia Bloodyknuckle
10 years ago

Prove it MRAL!

gelar
gelar
10 years ago

This strikes me as similar to what my brother does: some part of a conversation prompts him to create arguments in his head, casting himself as the concise and eloquent opponent. Then he tells me about the conversation and debate, but neglects to mention that the argument was entirely fabricated.

Leroy Brown
Leroy Brown
10 years ago

Even if my career were not interesting and intellectually stimulating, even if it did not make a difference in the world, even if I did not feel like I am doing exactly what my particular brain and temperament were ideally suited for, even if I did not extract enormous confidence and pride in my accomplishments there, in fact, even if I despised every moment of my education and working life, instead of loving it, it would be worth it to never, ever be dependent on someone who thinks it is appropriate to describe having sex with a woman as

you relieve yourself in them

Ew. What a revolting little person. I’ll stick with my lovely, respectful, funny. smart, sexy “dweeby, effete kitchen bitch,” thanks ever so much.

Also, killing the mammoth for us aside, it seems rather obvious to me that if anybody can be said to be “evolutionarily programmed to be resource providers,” it has to be women. We have actually evolved the ability to provide nutrients to our children using our bodies. I want to see evidence that there was ever, ever a time when it was not common for women to feed children. I am supposed to believe that providing nutrition for children has always and invariably the role of male hunters? I don’t. Because it makes no fucking sense.

Nobinayamu
Nobinayamu
10 years ago

In a nation of over 300 million people, 5.6 million or so women are stay-at-home wives or mothers. And in a 1/3 of American households, the female partner out earns her male counterpart, according to the recent census.

Of all the married people and co-habitating heterosexual couples that I know, only one woman is stay-at-home mom.

This idea that women are lazy is bullshit.

Tabby Lavalamp
Tabby Lavalamp
10 years ago

I almost feel sad for anyone looking at life through Roissy-coloured glasses.

Almost. To have so much visceral hatred inside oneself can’t be healthy, but as one of the objects of that hatred, my empathy only goes so far.

To MRAL, yes, a lot of women as “lazy as fuck.” So are a lot of men. I know, because I’ve worked with many throughout the years. But if you honestly believe one sex is lazier than the other, well then, there’s not much one can do if you insist on being intellectually lazy as fuck.

Men's Rights Activist Lieutenant
Men's Rights Activist Lieutenant
10 years ago

If women are the equal of men in the workplace, and are’t lazy, I guess there’s no need for fymynysm then!

Oh wait….

Victoria von Syrus
Victoria von Syrus
10 years ago

No, a lot of women are just lazy as fuck.

Citation needed.

Are men not just as likely to be lazy as women? I’ll grant your assertion that some women are indeed lazy as fuck when you admit that some men are also lazy as fuck, men and women both can also be hard workers, and there’s no good reason other than misogyny to single out women for being lazy.

And you have obviously not tried to manage a house involving children. Even in a two person household, it’s a chore.

Nobinayamu
Nobinayamu
10 years ago

If women aren’t the equal of men in the work place, and are in fact lazy lay-abouts, I guess there’s no need for blog posts about how annoying career oriented women are then.

Oh wait…

Moving on: What I don’t understand is this: Roissy and his followers are all about not getting married, right? I’ve only read a few of his posts and usually those have been sent to me by friends. He’s a huge advocate of the pump-and-dump lifestyle, pick up artistry, game, and that branch of MRM, correct?

So if career oriented women don’t make good wives*, what’s wrong with career-oriented women, again? If you aren’t looking to get married or be in serious relationships anyway, wouldn’t women who value their careers over men be excellent choices for casual, sexual relationships?

*I am, of course, playing Devil’s Advocate. The idea that women who love their jobs don’t value marriage, children, or their husbands is bullshit.

Bee
Bee
10 years ago

“Mnaging a house”, wtf? That’s code for “doing jack”. Takes two hours a day AT MOST.

Hmm, well, I was thinking of my mom here. She raised two girls, which was an all-day chore, at least until we started to go to school. She planned and cooked breakfast, lunch, and dinner for her husband and daughters. Before we started attending school, she drove us to playdates and nursery school. Afterwards, she walked or drove us to school and picked us up in the afternoon. She laundered clothes for four. Kept the house spotless. Gardened. Planned dinner parties for my dad’s work buddies. Took care of my dad’s mom when she needed help. She did grocery shopping, ran errands for the family — kept us in socks and underwear and tennis balls — stayed on a budget by clipping coupons, looking for bargains, and repairing things whenever she could. She was the default pet tender. She painted the walls when they got dingy, recovered chairs that had been spilled on, participated in class events and after-school activities like Girl Scouts, when necessary cared for sick kids and a sick husband and sick elderly neighbors. There’s gotta be a million other things. She literally does not stop moving. She still does these things, and has picked up a few volunteer activities, although I guess she’s “retired” now.

My brother in law also stays at home, and — it’s true, he doesn’t do a whole lot around the house, although he does have several (non-money-making) enterprises that keep him busy. But in his case, you’d have a little more of a point.

I guess it’s all what you put into it. I spend probably two hours a day washing dishes, vacuuming, taking care of the dogs, washing clothes and bedding, pulling weeds, grocery shopping, paying bills, wiping down surfaces, etc. But then, I go to school full-time, have a buncha volunteer activities so that someday hopefully I am hireable, so it’s definitely not like that’s where all my time is going. But if I had kids and cared more about how my house looked, it definitely could turn into an all-day thing.

Tabby Lavalamp
Tabby Lavalamp
10 years ago

MRAL, you truly are intellectually lazy as fuck.

Let’s compare, shall we?

If feminism is necessary because “women are lazy”, then was the civil rights movement necessary because, well, you are aware of a particularly vicious stereotype about African Americans, aren’t you?

Because African Americans are no more lazy than their white counterparts, and are just as capable given the same educational and career opportunities, was there no need for the civil rights movement?

Men's Rights Activist Lieutenant
Men's Rights Activist Lieutenant
10 years ago
Ohiken
Ohiken
10 years ago

Strangely enough, this is the exact spiel the xian fundy patriarchal set use. Apparently, useless ladybrains will totes confuse husbands and bosses. That and it’s a offense to god and the bible that a woman spends less than 100% of her time and effort on something other than husband, home or children – it makes jesus cry.

Victoria von Syrus
Victoria von Syrus
10 years ago

Hugo Schwyzer is a fucking dickfuck.

And now MRAL is hoping that we’ll all forget that he just made a very misogynist statement and start talking about Hugo instead of continuing to call him on it.

ithiliana
10 years ago

Gringo MRAL: Could you list specific examples of actual “housework” you have done?

For example:

FOOD:
Planning meals
Going to store(s) to buy stuff for meals
Unloading all the stuff for meals
Preparing meals
Serving meals
Cleaning up after meals

CLEANING
Going to store(s) to buy stuff for cleaning
Dusting furniture
Sweeping or vacuuming floors
Cleaning (with incredibly heavy machine) carpets
Cleaning baseboards
Cleaning cupboards
Cleaning oven
Washing dishes from meals (see above)
Putting away clean dishes
Changing beds
Vacuuming furniture
Scrubbing toilets and bathtubs and sinks
Doing laundry (clothes, bedding, etc.)
Drying laundry (dryer? clothesline?)
Folding clean laundry and putting away
Handling dry cleaning
(I won’t mention ironing because I gave it up myself years ago, on the argument that wrinkles are chic! But many people DO)

Those are just some of the basics, mostly routine stuff.

My mother is 83 and still chops wood for her wood burning stove (cheaper than electricity), plus during the years when she worked at home, she managed two rental units, did home cooking for her family, sewed clothing for us, did all the book keeping and banking and income tax preparation, and help organized charities (back in the day). We also had horses, sheep, cats, dogs, and chickens to oversee, and then there’s yard work (yeah, yeah, I know teh MAN does that, except not always). She insisted my brother and I both learn all the basics so we could take care of ourselves–he cooks and washes dishes and does laundry, and I (before health problems got back) mowed the lawn and (when I was staying with her), chopped wood.

So how much housework have you done, gringo?

ithiliana
10 years ago

Bee: Ditto about my mother — though I had a brother! Back in rural Idaho in the 50s/60s, there were women who worked outside the house as well as inside (mostly those married to men who earned incredibly low salaries; professional men could ‘support’ a wife who worked only at home), but the saying applied to all the wives and mothers in the neighborhood we lived in: “men may work from sun to sun, but women’s work is never done.” I looked around with my beady little eyes and saw what wives DID, and said, damn, I’m never getting married–that was about seven years before I saw the live childbirth PE movie and went HOLY FUCK, I’m never doing THAT either. And I have several male cousins who are the person who works in the home–and I know they spend more than two hours a day taking care of their families–because their wives enjoy the higher paying jobs that they have–so I know it does not have to be gender specific (but oh did the older women in the family freak out). But having a stay at home partner doing all the work of maintaining the house and family can save lots of money–my partner and I both work, and darn straight, the housework suffers (for us, it’s always time versus money). At times the cathair buildup gets downright frightening!

Captain Bathrobe
Captain Bathrobe
10 years ago

@MRAL:

Hmmm…. personally, I’d prefer to stay at home and sit on my ass while my wife goes out and provides for me. So I can’t say I agree with this guy. It’s indicative of women’s pampering and privilege that so many sit on their ass, but for those that want to go out and work, that’s pretty admirable.

It’s statements like this that cause me to stop and remind myself how incredibly young, immature, and callow you are. Otherwise, I might just think that you’re being a dick.

Since you obviously have no fucking idea how much work goes into managing a household, take it from a guy who’s been a stay at home dad and kindly shut the fuck up.

Alternately, you could e-mail this remark to your mom and see if she agrees.

Captain Bathrobe
Captain Bathrobe
10 years ago

And, by “this remark,” I mean yours. Your mom doesn’t need to read the product of my potty-mouth.

Ami Angelwings
10 years ago

Hmmm…. personally, I’d prefer to stay at home and sit on my ass while my wife goes out and provides for me. So I can’t say I agree with this guy.

doesn’t this make you the lazy one? o_O

Esp since you believe at most you’d expect to do 2 hours of housework a day?

How can you be condemning all sorts of ppl you dunno and assume their lives and thought processes, when you’ve just ADMITTED that you have that thought process and want that life? xD

Ami Angelwings
10 years ago

Okay this isn’t a self-plug… well it is xD but I also added some parts and it just feels like this is relevant to the attitudes in the OP and stuff xD

In the beginning, the White Shaft created man and then woman to give man company. Men and women were created equal but different, and there was a balance. But because of those differences, equality was not always evident to men who excelled at the arts most needed for human survival and advancement: science, invention, warfare, the hunt. Centuries passed and men began to believe they did not need women and began to enslave then, abuse them and the balance was lost. Many women cried out at this injustice and their pleas eventually manifested itself as an entity: The Darknyss, created from their anger, their suffering and their hatred.

Eventually, the Darknyss gained sentience, and with it a twisted understanding of humanity and the world: men were evil and destructive, and women needed to be saved from them. It was with this hateful and destructive motivation, that it lashed out, possessing and infusing women with great power and enhancing their hate and bitterness.

War ensued with horrible abominations and warriors for both sides being created: Alpha Males… Sexbots… Andrea Dworkin… and in the ensuing struggle men realized that they were incomplete without women and women realized that they were incomplete without men. Together, they realized their proper roles, men as protectors, inventors, warriors, women as caretakers, models for paintings and lovers, and sealed the Darknyss away. The balance was restored.

A period of prosperity and unparalleled technological and scientific growth ensued, with women in their proper role and men in theirs.. but the Darknyss festered. Despite that the conditions of it’s birth were gone, it’s purpose and dark hatred remained and it slowly extended it’s hate-filled tendrils back into the world, corrupting, manipulating, seducing.

A thousand years pass, until it’s influence is everywhere… and nowhere. Despite, or perhaps because of it’s comfortable complacency, society begins to chafe against its foundations, foundations built by the blood, sweat and tears of noble men and gentle women. Wives divorced husbands, mothers abandoned sons. Famine and sickness begin to sweep the land, creating poverty, frustration, and with it hatred, envy and anger.

Men who would have accepted their failures and worked harder to overcome them begin to feel resentment and bitterness. Some sought out the Darknyss for a short and easy route to power and revenge, others merely allowed themselves to be manipulated by it. Women who used to be content raising a new generation of noble artisans, engineers, physicians, scientists and warriors, became deluded into believing that they could fill such roles. Many became bitter and angry, blaming their husbands, refusing to tend their home and became lazy, mouthy and fat. Others acted on their unnatural desires and pursued those disciplines fervently, and upon their natural, logical failure to reach those goals, betrayed humankind and pledged their souls and allegiances to the Darknyss.

Daughters turned on fathers. Queens betrayed Kings. Women lay with women. Men with men. Kingdoms split, and kingdoms fell. Only a brave few remembered the old ways and stood for the White Shaft. Betrayal was rampant. Darknyss reigned… the Second Gender War was about to begin.

tawaen
tawaen
10 years ago

Hmmm…. personally, I’d prefer to stay at home and sit on my ass while my wife goes out and provides for me. So I can’t say I agree with this guy.

Will you also bear and raise the children? Because I’m totally looking for a man-servant.

I mean, right now I’m cool sharing a house with a roommie who cooks dinner, while I clean the house. But if I could get someone to cook AND clean AND bring up offspring, that would be way better. And walk the dog for an hour and a half every day so I can sleep in until a decent hour. Maybe with a guy like you around, my family will stop telling me that someday I’ll want a husband and kids of my own.

You would do all that for room and board? Done! Of course, I expect the house to sparkle when I get home, my meals to be prepared and everyone’s homework to be finished before dinner. Can you cook vegetarian entrees?

You don’t even have to pretend you care about me or want to sleep with me. But no personal spending money, I’ll just give you gifts when I’m happy.

It’ll be just like in the 1950s, but not!

Ami Angelwings
10 years ago

I think this is another example of a time we need to ask MRAL what he believes our lives are like.. in this case, stay at home mothers… xD

Fuck MRAs
Fuck MRAs
10 years ago

Something tells me there is a string of failed careers behind these guys. I can’t see most of them being able to be civil or sane enough to really advance. It must really anger them to see a woman do something they can’t.

Men's Rights Activist Lieutenant
Men's Rights Activist Lieutenant
10 years ago

You’re a fucking idiot.

Ami Angelwings
10 years ago

@Fuck MRAs I dun want to assume that this is true for all of them or even any of them… but I do wonder about the attitudes expressed in a lot of these sorts of rants : My exp in the workplace has been that if somebody has serious anger issues, resentment of their lot in life and also entitlement issues, they tend to either quit or be fired b/c they get into conflicts with everybody, and it’s always the fault of the other person, and nobody recognizes their genius, and everybody else is being promoted, or praised unfairly and b/c of reasons not related to merit, and etc etc : Or if you keep it in, it just builds this giant resentment that you need to take out or blame on others, which makes ideologies like the “all women are to blame, men are natural evolutionary giants” MRA stuff so appealing, it tells them what they want to hear, it’s not their fault, they have the genes of gods swelling inside them, etc etc

tawaen
tawaen
10 years ago

@ MRAL

You’re a fucking idiot.

All of us? One poster in particular?

Or are you rejecting my once-in-a-lifetime offer to get what you asked for?

Victoria von Syrus
Victoria von Syrus
10 years ago

MRAL, do you ever wonder if maybe the fact that you can’t get a date has more to do with the fact that women tend not to want to date men who so obviously hate them, than anything to do with how you look?

Men's Rights Activist Lieutenant
Men's Rights Activist Lieutenant
10 years ago

FOOD:
Planning meals- five minutes/weel
Going to store(s) to buy stuff for meals- 1 hour/week
Unloading all the stuff for meals- .25 hour/week
Preparing meals- 1 hour/day
Serving meals- 5 minutes/day
Cleaning up after meals- .5 hour/day

CLEANING
Going to store(s) to buy stuff for cleaning- .5 hour/week
Dusting furniture- 1 hour/week
Sweeping or vacuuming floors- .5 hour/day
Cleaning (with incredibly heavy machine) carpets- hire someone to do this.

Cleaning baseboards- .25 hours/week
Cleaning cupboards- .5 hours/week
Cleaning oven- .4 hours/month
Washing dishes from meals (see above)- .5 hours/day
Scrubbing toilets and bathtubs and sinksDrying laundry (dryer? clothesline?)- .5 hours/week
Folding clean laundry and putting away- .25 hours/week
Handling dry cleaning- .25 hours/week
(I won’t mention ironing because I gave it up myself years ago, on the argument that wrinkles are chic! But many people DO)

Men's Rights Activist Lieutenant
Men's Rights Activist Lieutenant
10 years ago

Man, I’m shaking in my boots. Oh course, for a person as wildly privileged as the majority opf women, I’m sure that seems like slavery.

Men's Rights Activist Lieutenant
Men's Rights Activist Lieutenant
10 years ago

Fuck MRAs is a fucking idiot is what I meant. Adds nothing of value but man-bashing. FUCK Fuck MRAs.

Leely
Leely
10 years ago

Hey, I can also offer MRAL some experience!

I’m a SAHM with kids ages 5, almost 4, and 2. Sometime in August, I have to have surgery that will leave me absolutely out-of-commission for two weeks.

So what do you say, MRAL? Want a quick “vacation” in Florida for two weeks before you go back to school? I can’t buy your plane ticket, but I can offer room, board, and use of a car.

hellkell
hellkell
10 years ago

MRAL, who’s a fucking idiot? You?

I work with some lazy men, not only don’t they do much, they’re lazy thinkers, too. The kind that refer to any care of their off-spring as “babysitting.” If that’s not lazy, I’m not sure what is.

Ami Angelwings
10 years ago

I do all the cooking and shopping and etc for my family… where the hell did you get shopping is 1 hour a week or cooking is 1 hour a day? o_O (ignoring your theoretical lowest of the low estimations… that or you think you live in like a box xD )

or as my friend just said: “your argument can be demolished by one hour in a high school home ec class, sir”

Ami Angelwings
10 years ago

Wait, MRAL, so these estimates you just put up. If it turns out to be WAY more and harder than that, would you still want to do it? Or is this about how much you think you’d be up for doing?

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