It’s always handy when one of the MGTOW brethren sums up one of the tribe’s beliefs in a handy little post. The following is what every single MRTOWer out there (not to mention many MRAs and PUAs and even some non-acronymified misogynists) seems to believe about how women live their lives today. When I say “every single MGTOWer” I’m not really exaggerating for impact – well, maybe a teensy bit. But I don’t think I’ve ever run across an MGTOWer who doesn’t take all of the following on faith.
Like many manosphere beliefs about women – like the whole “women only fuck the top 20% of men” thing – there is of course not a shred of evidence for any of this. It’s an essentially religious belief, accepted on faith. MGTOWers are like monks in the douchiest religion ever.
Anyway, fresh from a post by “Rogue” on NiceGuy’s MGTOW forum, here’s how all you ladies are living your lives:
The modern woman’s life plan goes like this:
Step 1) From first sexual awakening throughout her twenties, fuck as many Alpha Asshole men (hereafter referred to as AA) as she can in a quest of sheer narcissistic hedonism. May give birth to an AA spawn during this time; party lifestyle and general female educative path (elementary teacher, social worker) results in shaky finances.
[citation needed]
Step 2) Oops, getting close to or past age 30? Find a Nice Guy Beta (hereafter referred to as NGB), dupe him into marriage with sex (he’s generally grateful for the attention, having had less than stellar success with women throughout his twenties), use his money to stabilize shaky finances. Strong likelihood of having another child or two; may again be AA spawn due to affairs. Pack on 30 pounds of fat (at least!). Cut off sex with NGB since she now has him over a barrel and was never really attracted to him in the first place. Get steadily angrier and more dissatisfied.
[citation needed]
Step 3) Divorce at or slightly before age 40; attempt to remount AA cock carousel, this time as a cougar. Fail miserably because no AA wants an old, fat female body and a loose pussy that looks like a hunk of roast beef that’s been worked over with a dozen ball-peen hammers for a month. Said failure twists her mind until her only remaining pleasure in life is to fuck with ex-NGB in various ways such as taking him back to court to raise CS payments, or denying him visitation rights to his children.
[citation needed]
Step 4) Accept that she’s past her time for the AA cock carousel; become a companion to many cats.
[citation needed]
And what’s with all the cat-hatred, anyway? Cats are adorable, endlessly fascinating little monsters who do no harm to anyone, unless you count all the times my cat has attacked me without provocation and the fact that she just threw up her dinner and is now insistently demanding a second dinner. To paraphrase Samuel L. Jackson’s character in Jackie Brown, you can trust cats to be cats.
Anyway, back to the sermon:
The marriage strike is just an attempt to short-circuit steps 2 and 3, and force women to ride step 1 as long as they can, then transition directly to step 4. Will women like the result if, instead of rushing to save them at age 30, men just shake their heads and walk away? I think it’s an experiment worth trying.
Once again: please, please, please walk away. Walk far away. Become monks in your douchy religion. Just remember that most monks who take a vow of chastity don’t spend the rest of their lives whining about how women are a bunch of filthy bitches.
Oh, and before anyone pops in with a “why do you pick on the outliers, this guy doesn’t represent bla bla bla,” the post (which naturally got nothing but huzzahs on NiceGuy’s forum) was also highlighted on the MRA blog What Men Are Saying About Women as an example of “superb” discussion of the Woman Question. This bullshit is Manosphere-Approved bullshit.
I am generally not myself in my dreams and I switch characters. So, if one character gets killed, I become another one within the story. This is usually okay, but when I have a nightmare it means I can get killed by zombies and such over and over and over again until I wake up. My brain has another defense mechanism that sometimes kicks in there and suddenly I’ll become a person playing a game with the other characters in it, like my game characters just died fifty times instead of me. As I sit there in my dream, with my game, I will think “wow, that game really sucked me in, it was super realistic”. It’s like I sort of know something wasn’t quite normal with what just happened but never guess what.
Ami *hugs* if you want them! Dude, that sucks 🙁
Now I’m wondering why I’ve never “died” in a dream. I don’t think I’ve ever even seen anyone else die in one.
…MRAL – you do realise that your BMI is over 25, right?
@Lyn: Shhhh! He’s like, being nice for some strange reason. XD
Barely over 25. I’ll get it down in the next month.
@Molly:
You know? I don’t think I’ve ever died either. No killing, no undead, the subject of death doesn’t occur. (Except once, but that was just after my grandmother died, so it doesn’t really count).
I just weighed myself. 168, with a height of 5.8.5 that’s 25.2. I’ll live.
@MRAL:
Just in case you missed the point. Look in the mirror, preferably with tight-fitting clothes (trust me). Your body shape? Very similar to a girl with a bmi of 25. There are some differences, with fat concentrated more in the bust and the hips, but essentially a girl would be very similar in perceived weight. That is the reality of the threshold you used to adhere to so strictly.
Ami pointed this out yesterday, I think, off thread: If you look at dress sizes, there isn’t a whole lot of difference between 0 and 10, yet this somehow makes a world of difference in the PUA relm. She pointed out that, probably, we are so used to thinking on a 1-10 scale that a dress size of 10 sounds enormous, when in reality it isn’t.
http://i749.photobucket.com/albums/xx134/ami_angelwings/Magyc%20Cards/TheBeastofFeminism.jpg
I haven’t weighed myself recently, but out of curiosity I calculated my BMI as well, based on a height of 6’8″ and a weight of 220-230. Apparently I’m hovering around that magical 25 BMI threshold as well.
Also @everybody ty… i didn’t mean to go off like that or make it about me 🙁 but thx *hugs*
Apparently I scrolled both myself and Ami off the page.. Awesomesauce, Ami!
http://i749.photobucket.com/albums/xx134/ami_angelwings/Magyc%20Cards/TheBeastofFeminism.jpg
(for all the cards so far: http://s749.photobucket.com/albums/xx134/ami_angelwings/Magyc%20Cards/ )
I never said anyone over 25 was disgusting, you guys just kept pressuring me for an objective standard so I gave you one. But obviously 25.1 isn’t a whale that becomes a model at 24.9.
Ami – EEEE, awesome, thanks!
Unrelatedly, one time I had a dream in which I kept repeatedly killing myself by jumping out a window and being brought back to life only to kill myself again. This was like years and years ago and I don’t even think I was suicidal at the time, it was just weirdness.
Ami: That sucks. All the sympathy in the world.
About dying in dreams… it’s really really rare for someone to die in a dream. So rare that myth has it that to die in a dream is to die in actuality.
Guys, this exists: Writers & Kitties!
@MRAL:
Is there anything wrong with not having an objective standard? Or at least recognizing that there are serious grey areas? Implied in what you said before was that 25 was actually a hard line (like some other things that will not be mentioned). You seemed to dismiss the idea that different people can have different opinions on what is beautiful.
@Plymouth I hope the pic is okay xD I found it while searching for pix for the war machine. I tried my best to find a better goth/cyborg pic but all I could find were either porn art or real photos (and I dun want to use real photos for the cards, I want them to look like they actually could be cards) xD
Okay, peer input time:
Which pic do you like best for Holly’s card?
http://mythicmktg.fileburst.com/war/us/home/images/armiesofWAR/darkelves/Sorceress/sorceress-concept-03.jpg
http://www.clydecaldwell.com/jpgs/large_images/elsbeth.jpg
http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs51/f/2009/278/0/7/Sorceress_by_Leevitron.jpg
http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs13/f/2007/036/b/7/sorceress_by_kir_tat.jpg
Ami – It’s cool, very steampunk! I thought you ‘d use my icon like you did for kirby but I like that even better (it fits the text better) so yay!
Hrm, suddenly I’m in the mood for Cat Stevens… This seemed like an especially poignent one, so I thought I’d share. 🙂
Stupid… moderation >_<
I'll do this 2 links at a time, which pic do you like better for Holly's card?
http://mythicmktg.fileburst.com/war/us/home/images/armiesofWAR/darkelves/Sorceress/sorceress-concept-03.jpg
http://www.clydecaldwell.com/jpgs/large_images/elsbeth.jpg
http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs51/f/2009/278/0/7/Sorceress_by_Leevitron.jpg
http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs13/f/2007/036/b/7/sorceress_by_kir_tat.jpg