It’s always handy when one of the MGTOW brethren sums up one of the tribe’s beliefs in a handy little post. The following is what every single MRTOWer out there (not to mention many MRAs and PUAs and even some non-acronymified misogynists) seems to believe about how women live their lives today. When I say “every single MGTOWer” I’m not really exaggerating for impact – well, maybe a teensy bit. But I don’t think I’ve ever run across an MGTOWer who doesn’t take all of the following on faith.
Like many manosphere beliefs about women – like the whole “women only fuck the top 20% of men” thing – there is of course not a shred of evidence for any of this. It’s an essentially religious belief, accepted on faith. MGTOWers are like monks in the douchiest religion ever.
Anyway, fresh from a post by “Rogue” on NiceGuy’s MGTOW forum, here’s how all you ladies are living your lives:
The modern woman’s life plan goes like this:
Step 1) From first sexual awakening throughout her twenties, fuck as many Alpha Asshole men (hereafter referred to as AA) as she can in a quest of sheer narcissistic hedonism. May give birth to an AA spawn during this time; party lifestyle and general female educative path (elementary teacher, social worker) results in shaky finances.
[citation needed]
Step 2) Oops, getting close to or past age 30? Find a Nice Guy Beta (hereafter referred to as NGB), dupe him into marriage with sex (he’s generally grateful for the attention, having had less than stellar success with women throughout his twenties), use his money to stabilize shaky finances. Strong likelihood of having another child or two; may again be AA spawn due to affairs. Pack on 30 pounds of fat (at least!). Cut off sex with NGB since she now has him over a barrel and was never really attracted to him in the first place. Get steadily angrier and more dissatisfied.
[citation needed]
Step 3) Divorce at or slightly before age 40; attempt to remount AA cock carousel, this time as a cougar. Fail miserably because no AA wants an old, fat female body and a loose pussy that looks like a hunk of roast beef that’s been worked over with a dozen ball-peen hammers for a month. Said failure twists her mind until her only remaining pleasure in life is to fuck with ex-NGB in various ways such as taking him back to court to raise CS payments, or denying him visitation rights to his children.
[citation needed]
Step 4) Accept that she’s past her time for the AA cock carousel; become a companion to many cats.
[citation needed]
And what’s with all the cat-hatred, anyway? Cats are adorable, endlessly fascinating little monsters who do no harm to anyone, unless you count all the times my cat has attacked me without provocation and the fact that she just threw up her dinner and is now insistently demanding a second dinner. To paraphrase Samuel L. Jackson’s character in Jackie Brown, you can trust cats to be cats.
Anyway, back to the sermon:
The marriage strike is just an attempt to short-circuit steps 2 and 3, and force women to ride step 1 as long as they can, then transition directly to step 4. Will women like the result if, instead of rushing to save them at age 30, men just shake their heads and walk away? I think it’s an experiment worth trying.
Once again: please, please, please walk away. Walk far away. Become monks in your douchy religion. Just remember that most monks who take a vow of chastity don’t spend the rest of their lives whining about how women are a bunch of filthy bitches.
Oh, and before anyone pops in with a “why do you pick on the outliers, this guy doesn’t represent bla bla bla,” the post (which naturally got nothing but huzzahs on NiceGuy’s forum) was also highlighted on the MRA blog What Men Are Saying About Women as an example of “superb” discussion of the Woman Question. This bullshit is Manosphere-Approved bullshit.
@Molly:
The flavor text would be simple. “XD!!!”
@MRAL:
See, these posters HAVE walked the walk. In fact the “blowhard internet talk” describes the OP more then the posters. So what is your point exactly?
I don’t really believe a lot of the stuff said here, to be honest.
Also, feminists are a minority among women, and have slightly more evolved thought processes.
@Sarah
I’d suggest asking around. Personal recommendations got me to my GP and OBGYN (both of whom I adore). And in turn I’ve recommended them to everyone who’s ever broached the subject in my presence. People don’t seem to expect to have a really great relationship with their medical providers (though they should – both expect and have!) so those of us who do tend to…proselytize.
And on the having to explain the bruises – for a lot of women in abusive relationships, seeing the OBGYN once a year may be the only time they have access to an outsider with some authority without their partner being present. Same for giving birth in a hospital. So those are both major screening points for potential abuse. Though I can totally see how it’s the reaction to your answer that’s worrisome, not the questions themselves.
(Delurking due to irresistible need to talk about great medical providers. *wave*)
Ami – Bwahaha, that’s awesome! Esp since I did actually used to work on fighter planes and missiles 😀 (not anymore though)
@MRAL: “Everyone likes to say they see everyone’s inner beauty or don’t care about physical traits.”
I care about what someone looks like. Of course, my “type” runs chubby, so perhaps I am luckier than some?
I’ve never slept with someone who I didn’t find attractive in *some* way, but if afterwards they sucked at conversation they wouldn’t get a second invite into my bed.
Hmm, you know, I don’t know what else we’d expect from MRAL, given his behavior on the gropey thread (was it that? can’t remember). Anyway, his view, to paraphrase one of the great intellectuals of our time, seems to be:
“And I don’t want to talk to a Feminist. Y’all motherfuckers lying, and gettin me pissed.”
Who are you paraphrasing?
And this was posted before I saw his last post saying that exact thing. Gah, I hate being right…
On the bright side, he thinks that feminists are actually better than most women, rather than worse.. I suppose that’s kinda a plus..
@MRAL:
I care about what someone looks like. Of course, my “type” runs chubby, so perhaps I am luckier than some?
This. Except my “type” is actually super-scrawny. More than REALLY REALLY LEAN muscle just GROSSES ME OUT. Like, really, the thinner the better. Like, when I look at this chart, the tallest skinniest boys are THE HOTTEST:
http://www.cockeyed.com/photos/bodies/heightweight.html
(oh noes now I is discriminating based on height!)
I think feminists (except for grrl power college girls and radfems) are generally smarter than most people. I appreciate some of the things they SAY (and, maybe, a tiny tiny few DO) regarding lookism. Unfortunately they often use their intelligence for nefarious purposes (ie, bashing men) which negates some of the good they do.
Well, that does it. If Mr. Al thinks that all women go through these four stages, I guess I’d better go through those four stages. Anyone know a good divorce lawyer? And a good wedding planner? And a good cheesecake baker? (Packing on the 30 pounds is gonna be my favorite part of this!)
OT: Did anyone else watch “Sex Crimes Unit” on HBO? I’m watching it right now. It’s really interesting.
I tend to run towards liking the shorties, myself. I like having dudes who can sit in my lap for makeouts or who I can curl up around. :3
I’m not interested stuff like that. Men are supposed to be dominant.
Hmm… My type tends to run on the skinnier side rather than the chubbier side, though honestly I have a very small sample size. I’ve also never had the pleasure of dating a tall girl, which is probably something I should go for. My problem is that, save for some threshold on looks, the main thing for me really is the personality. If we’ve been friends, I find it very easy to move forward.
But again, small sample size.. I haven’t even tried “looking” for dates.. Who knows?
Well since he’s here!
http://s749.photobucket.com/albums/xx134/ami_angelwings/Magyc%20Cards/?action=view¤t=MensRightsActivistLieutenant.jpg
:3
(and since he’s lurking I’ll assume he read my big comment in the last thread he was on xD)
I feel like I should post a photo of 13…
Don’t worry, MRAL. Even though you are in my ideal height range, you are still a jerk, so you are safe.
I haven’t read that thread since I bailed. I’ll go look.
@MRAL:
“I’m not interested stuff like that. Men are supposed to be dominant.”
Just out of quick curiosity, is this your personal opinion or the opinion of society? If it’s yours, why are men supposed to be dominant? Certainly a lot of male subs would like to disagree with you.
Am I supposed to be the tall one or the short one?
OK, that’s bad wording. I don’t have a problem with men who want to be subs. That’s not my personal preference, though.
“Men are supposed to be dominant”.
What do you mean by dominant? Just for the sake of clarity – does this mean that what is wrong with feminism is not that it thinks that women are superior (which I don’t think it does, fyi) but that it displaces men from their *rightful* dominant position?
no