It’s always handy when one of the MGTOW brethren sums up one of the tribe’s beliefs in a handy little post. The following is what every single MRTOWer out there (not to mention many MRAs and PUAs and even some non-acronymified misogynists) seems to believe about how women live their lives today. When I say “every single MGTOWer” I’m not really exaggerating for impact – well, maybe a teensy bit. But I don’t think I’ve ever run across an MGTOWer who doesn’t take all of the following on faith.
Like many manosphere beliefs about women – like the whole “women only fuck the top 20% of men” thing – there is of course not a shred of evidence for any of this. It’s an essentially religious belief, accepted on faith. MGTOWers are like monks in the douchiest religion ever.
Anyway, fresh from a post by “Rogue” on NiceGuy’s MGTOW forum, here’s how all you ladies are living your lives:
The modern woman’s life plan goes like this:
Step 1) From first sexual awakening throughout her twenties, fuck as many Alpha Asshole men (hereafter referred to as AA) as she can in a quest of sheer narcissistic hedonism. May give birth to an AA spawn during this time; party lifestyle and general female educative path (elementary teacher, social worker) results in shaky finances.
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Step 2) Oops, getting close to or past age 30? Find a Nice Guy Beta (hereafter referred to as NGB), dupe him into marriage with sex (he’s generally grateful for the attention, having had less than stellar success with women throughout his twenties), use his money to stabilize shaky finances. Strong likelihood of having another child or two; may again be AA spawn due to affairs. Pack on 30 pounds of fat (at least!). Cut off sex with NGB since she now has him over a barrel and was never really attracted to him in the first place. Get steadily angrier and more dissatisfied.
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Step 3) Divorce at or slightly before age 40; attempt to remount AA cock carousel, this time as a cougar. Fail miserably because no AA wants an old, fat female body and a loose pussy that looks like a hunk of roast beef that’s been worked over with a dozen ball-peen hammers for a month. Said failure twists her mind until her only remaining pleasure in life is to fuck with ex-NGB in various ways such as taking him back to court to raise CS payments, or denying him visitation rights to his children.
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Step 4) Accept that she’s past her time for the AA cock carousel; become a companion to many cats.
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And what’s with all the cat-hatred, anyway? Cats are adorable, endlessly fascinating little monsters who do no harm to anyone, unless you count all the times my cat has attacked me without provocation and the fact that she just threw up her dinner and is now insistently demanding a second dinner. To paraphrase Samuel L. Jackson’s character in Jackie Brown, you can trust cats to be cats.
Anyway, back to the sermon:
The marriage strike is just an attempt to short-circuit steps 2 and 3, and force women to ride step 1 as long as they can, then transition directly to step 4. Will women like the result if, instead of rushing to save them at age 30, men just shake their heads and walk away? I think it’s an experiment worth trying.
Once again: please, please, please walk away. Walk far away. Become monks in your douchy religion. Just remember that most monks who take a vow of chastity don’t spend the rest of their lives whining about how women are a bunch of filthy bitches.
Oh, and before anyone pops in with a “why do you pick on the outliers, this guy doesn’t represent bla bla bla,” the post (which naturally got nothing but huzzahs on NiceGuy’s forum) was also highlighted on the MRA blog What Men Are Saying About Women as an example of “superb” discussion of the Woman Question. This bullshit is Manosphere-Approved bullshit.
@MRAL:
Its possible they just haven’t heard of it. USian is not an old term. You don’t know what their opinion is if they never have a reason to express it.
I know what feminists think because I literally never hear individual feminists sans some internet blogs, or the leaders of the feminist movement, or feminist writers, or feminist activists, or anything feminist ever use the term “Fymynyst”.
Maybe fymynysts should not be a hate group if they want to have their wishes respected.
Maybe USians should not be a hate group if they want to have their wishes respected.
MRAL – that could be because USian is one of those internetty things that looks much better than it sounds…
Kirby, maybe, maybe not. It’s not anyone’s place to change the terminology, especially to something awkward-sounding and dumb like “USian”.
Maybe USians should not be a hate group if they want to have their wishes respected.
Hahahahahahahahahaha. Nice try.
Kirby, maybe, maybe not. It’s not anyone’s place to change the terminology, especially to something awkward-sounding and dumb like “fymynyst”.
I am going to imagine punching the next person who uses the term USian in the face.
Spearhafoc is a fucking idiot.
I am going to imagine punching the next person who uses the term fymynyst in the face.
Mr. Al:
Close your eyes.
Breathe deeply.
Think of the lake. The beautiful, beautiful lake. The relaxing sounds of the water. The sun glinting on the surface of the water.
You dive in. The water is cold, but refreshing. You body feels good moving through the water.
Etc.
@MRAL:
Again, your personal opinion on how dumb the name “USian” is has no bearing on what actual USians think of themselves. But if I’m gonna respect your wishes to be called American (there is no reason why I wouldn’t, except for…) then you should respect our wishes to be called Feminists. As Spearhafoc is trying gracefully to drill into your skull.
Correction – Spearhafoc is being pretty hilarious. I can understand that his tactics would be irritating…this is why I avoid saying stupid and hypocritical stuff where possible. You should try it.
MRAL, I’m kind of glad you don’t have a girlfriend, because I can see how you’d treat her. You need a hell of a lot more tolerance for disagreement and even insult before you’re able to share your life with another person.
By the by, that’s a little awkward.
“I am going to imagine punching the next person who uses the term USian in the face.”
It reads like you’re going to imagine punching someone who says “USian in the face”.
To my knowledge, no one (save for yourself) has used that phrase. Is this like that scene from Fight Club where Edward Norton beats himself up?
I’m going to not imagine punching anyone in the face, because I’m switching between this page, homework, and “Hoarders,” and I’m not all that emotionally invested. I’d like people to agree with me, but if they don’t, I try to keep it from raising my real-life blood pressure all that much.
Like I said, I don’t actually care about “USian” versus “American” (and, in fact, prefer “American”). I’m also not bothered by “fymynyst”. It’s juvenile, but you’re kind of an idiot so I don’t let it bother me.
I’m just shocked by the level of your hypocrisy here. Look at what you’re doing, man!
MRAL: Again with the lack of irony: Americans want to be called, since they call themselves, well, Americans. USian is almost like spitting in their face.
And a number of Americans here, have told you they don’t care. Are you calling them liars? Wait, I forgot, you already called them unAmerican, veritable traitors, because they didn’t object to it.
As I said before, if you weren’t so childishly attached to the idea that you get to define things for people, and were willing to live and let live, you’d get a lot less grief,and look a lot less foolish.
No one care if you want to be called an American, or a Down Easter, or a hillbilly. If you make your preference known (without being a jerk about it) they will be happy to accommodate you.
But you’ve yet to mature enough to understand that, and you go on with juvenile assertion that you know what everyone in the United States thinks (all 300 million of them) because you’ve never heard one use a specific turn of phrase.
How many people have you had a conversation where it was likely to come up?
That, my dear boy, is why people tell you that you are full of it.
Really, it would probably me more pleasant, for you, if you finished your thoughts on Islam.
since there is no place called America, there is no reason for anyone to be pissed that Americans call themselvs Americans.
I don’t think many people are “pissed” – I’d say more like “mildly annoyed”.
However, along similar likes…
since there IS a place called the U.S., there is no reason for anyone to be pissed that some people call people from that place USians. (including some of us who are from the U.S.)
And yet somehow you are!
I love it when people disagree with me, wtf are you taking about? If I had a girlfriend that would be no problem. I just hate it when people disagree about fucking stupid shit.
Islam? I have nothing more to say about that. I was using hyperbole in frustration. Damn. You people take everything so seriously, do you ACTUALLY THINK I would ACTUALLY CONDONE bombing Mecca at this point and time, even suspending the logistics and morality of the situation? No. I was kidding. Borne out of frustration with the Middle East. Muslims are fine, unless they kill people.
Until she says something that annoys you (which happens in every relationship, even platonic ones), in which case you might finally have a chance to act out your violent little fantasies. The further away you get from having a girlfriend, the better for said hypothetical girlfriend. That is, until you got some help for your anger problems.
He said without a trace of irony. Hint: You’re the one who started this stupid argument.
Well, what if you had a girlfriend who disagreed with you about fucking stupid shit?
I’m not even mocking you (well, that too, but I’m not only mocking you). Part of being in a relationship is knowing how to take it okay when someone does things that bother you–every now and then, things that really bother you.
Sometimes my boyfriend completely exasperates me, and sometimes we have real disagreements that can’t be resolved the way I’d like. Never mind how attractive I might be, I couldn’t be in this relationship if I started screaming or talking about violence when that happened.
@MRAL:
You are a man who has expressed no qualms about violence in the past. Why wouldn’t we take you seriously now? Good to hear you recognize it was out of frustration though… I guess…
Its like rewarding a lemon for temporarily not squirting in someone’s eye…