It’s always handy when one of the MGTOW brethren sums up one of the tribe’s beliefs in a handy little post. The following is what every single MRTOWer out there (not to mention many MRAs and PUAs and even some non-acronymified misogynists) seems to believe about how women live their lives today. When I say “every single MGTOWer” I’m not really exaggerating for impact – well, maybe a teensy bit. But I don’t think I’ve ever run across an MGTOWer who doesn’t take all of the following on faith.
Like many manosphere beliefs about women – like the whole “women only fuck the top 20% of men” thing – there is of course not a shred of evidence for any of this. It’s an essentially religious belief, accepted on faith. MGTOWers are like monks in the douchiest religion ever.
Anyway, fresh from a post by “Rogue” on NiceGuy’s MGTOW forum, here’s how all you ladies are living your lives:
The modern woman’s life plan goes like this:
Step 1) From first sexual awakening throughout her twenties, fuck as many Alpha Asshole men (hereafter referred to as AA) as she can in a quest of sheer narcissistic hedonism. May give birth to an AA spawn during this time; party lifestyle and general female educative path (elementary teacher, social worker) results in shaky finances.
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Step 2) Oops, getting close to or past age 30? Find a Nice Guy Beta (hereafter referred to as NGB), dupe him into marriage with sex (he’s generally grateful for the attention, having had less than stellar success with women throughout his twenties), use his money to stabilize shaky finances. Strong likelihood of having another child or two; may again be AA spawn due to affairs. Pack on 30 pounds of fat (at least!). Cut off sex with NGB since she now has him over a barrel and was never really attracted to him in the first place. Get steadily angrier and more dissatisfied.
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Step 3) Divorce at or slightly before age 40; attempt to remount AA cock carousel, this time as a cougar. Fail miserably because no AA wants an old, fat female body and a loose pussy that looks like a hunk of roast beef that’s been worked over with a dozen ball-peen hammers for a month. Said failure twists her mind until her only remaining pleasure in life is to fuck with ex-NGB in various ways such as taking him back to court to raise CS payments, or denying him visitation rights to his children.
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Step 4) Accept that she’s past her time for the AA cock carousel; become a companion to many cats.
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And what’s with all the cat-hatred, anyway? Cats are adorable, endlessly fascinating little monsters who do no harm to anyone, unless you count all the times my cat has attacked me without provocation and the fact that she just threw up her dinner and is now insistently demanding a second dinner. To paraphrase Samuel L. Jackson’s character in Jackie Brown, you can trust cats to be cats.
Anyway, back to the sermon:
The marriage strike is just an attempt to short-circuit steps 2 and 3, and force women to ride step 1 as long as they can, then transition directly to step 4. Will women like the result if, instead of rushing to save them at age 30, men just shake their heads and walk away? I think it’s an experiment worth trying.
Once again: please, please, please walk away. Walk far away. Become monks in your douchy religion. Just remember that most monks who take a vow of chastity don’t spend the rest of their lives whining about how women are a bunch of filthy bitches.
Oh, and before anyone pops in with a “why do you pick on the outliers, this guy doesn’t represent bla bla bla,” the post (which naturally got nothing but huzzahs on NiceGuy’s forum) was also highlighted on the MRA blog What Men Are Saying About Women as an example of “superb” discussion of the Woman Question. This bullshit is Manosphere-Approved bullshit.
@Victora I think so too.. esp since he won’t actually lay out the details of his plan of banning Islam from the world (how it would be enforced, what the reaction would be like, how to handle the reaction, etc) xD I’ve had to speculate…
@Victoria:
Of course, we Canadians are all very easy going chaps. We probably have adorable pronunciations for things as well… hmm.. gonna have to meditate aboot this one…
@Kirbywarp We have to inject you with some communism microchips first.. into the base of your skull…
Whatever. Fine, maybe “America” is a real term, but it’s rarely used. No one says “Oh yeah, I’m a member of the supercontinent America”. American sounds way better than USian. Citizens of the US have the right to call themselves whatever they want. It’s no surprise they chose the better term. Butthurt North Americans and South Americans can get the fuck over it, and refer to themselves based on their country of origin. Like anyone feels solidarity with their CONTINENT, anyway. Holy shit….
Continents are boring. Geography has never been my forte*.
Let’s talk about dresses and eyebrows again!
*Interestingly enough: The word “forte” is actually only one syllable, pronounced “fort”. The modern pronunciation came about due to the confusion between the French word “forte” (meaning strength), which is where we get the word, and the Italian word “forte” (meaning loud). Both pronunciations are considered “correct” by modern dictionaries, but I prefer the one-syllable version – it’s more pretentious.
XDDDDDDD
Driven by hunger, a fox tried to reach some grapes hanging high on the vine but was unable to, although he leaped with all his strength. As he went away, the fox remarked, ‘Oh, you aren’t even ripe yet! I don’t need any sour grapes.’
As an Australian – I do feel solidarity with the continent I live on. Which is also the country and the island I live on. Whee!
Ever seen The Chaser’s War on Everything, Lyn?
…I own the first three seasons… And I’m ticked they weren’t allowed to do the royal wedding. Pfft. They have their problems but they are mostly hilarious.
Spearhafoc: I agree with you, re forte:
MRAL: If you had said, “Whatever. Fine, maybe “America” is a real term, but it’s rarely used. No one says “Oh yeah, I’m a member of the supercontinent America”. at the outset, when people pointed out that some people have a problem with the US trying to arrogate the term, “America” to itself, then you wouldn’t have gotten the grief you did.
Because the question about what to call it… is exactly what you say is being done with regard to the definitions of continents… consensus among people.
But you had to draw a bright line in the sand about how “America” not only ought to be what you wanted it to be, but could logically only be defined that way, and tried to argue that it was only ever used that way.
That’s what got everyone telling you you were were wrong.
Can we go back to eradicating Islam now?
@Ami–I’m sure there is a lot of wish fulfillment on NWO’s part.
Damn, I didn’t think it would be continents that set Mr. AL off. Incoherent, indeed.
Pecuniam: Exactly–there is no consensus over the terminology/naming — and while MRAL is right, we cannot make him say USian, neither can he make those of us who choose to use that term in some contexts NOT use it.
But I have learned that people’s response to the term (citizens of the USA=people in this context) is fairly indicative of their privilege–the idea that some people somewhere are calling THEM things they don’t like is enraging which means they’re used to believing that their terminology is the authoritative one. MRAL would probably also get mad if he knew what USians are called in other cultures/among other groups in vernacular/slang/slurs.
I’m still so gobsmacked by the “let’s bomb Mecca” spewing that I’m not sure what to say. It’s…the casual way he threw it off. I’m more and more convinced he just does not see other people as real somehow.
Pecunium! Sorry for misspelling your name! *whaps self on head*
fairly indicative of their privilege–the idea that some people somewhere are calling THEM things they don’t like is enraging which means they’re used to believing that their terminology is the authoritative one
Bullshit. It’s not privilege to think that you have the right to define yourself. Isn’t that a major tenet of fymynysm? One of the few worth anything. I’m not going to tell anyone else what to call themselves, hell, if Brazilians want to call themselves American, or South American, or Klingons, or servants of Sauron, so be it.
And here I always thought ‘USian’ was Internet shorthand, like ‘lol’ or ‘FWIW’.
Bullshit. It’s not privilege to think that you have the right to define yourself. Isn’t that a major tenet of fymynysm? One of the few worth anything. I’m not going to tell anyone else what to call themselves, hell, if Brazilians want to call themselves American, or South American, or Klingons, or servants of Sauron, so be it
The problem people have had with your argument is not that you, yourself do not want to be called a USian, but that you responded with some pretty impressive nerdrage over the idea that someone, somewhere, had an objection to using the term ‘American’ and decided ‘USian’ was better. It’s not that you were trying to define yourself (i.e., ‘Hey, if you’re going to refer directly to me, could you please call me an ‘American’?’), but that you were insisting USian was a term that people could not ever, under any circumstances, call themselves. Then there was something incoherent about America not being a real place and only an abstract concept.
Spearhafoc, yes, lets talk eyebrows and dresses! Tom and Lorenzo is taking too long to load right now, but the other day I saw a resort collection that had great dresses. Just can’t remember who right now.
As far as brows, if I don’t wax every other week and pluck in between, it’s pretty clear I’m Italian!
Maybe people would be more willing to accept your preference in terms of nomenclature if you were willing to do likewise for them. “Feminism”.
Seconding Spearhafoc!
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I get angry when other people use “USian”, because that is clearly not what Americans want to be called, since they call themselves, well, Americans. USian is almost like spitting in their face. It’s rude. If Brazilians, somehow, collectively made it known they wanted to be called Americans I’d refer to them as Americans.
Oy gevalt, always with the spitting.
How about we call people who want to be called “USian” that, we call people who want to be called “American” that, and if we didn’t ask them we’ll just make it up as we go?
I really have no problem with “American”; I’m a resident of the US and of North America, so I think they both fit. It’s like being French and also European.
@MRAL:
USians are not a monolithic group. I happen to be one myself, and don’t mind being called such. You may not, and thats fine. But how do you know what USians think? You only know what you think, and speaking for everyone is spitting on them as well (if anything is, anyway).
I know what Americans think because I literally never hear individual Americans sans some internet blogs, or the American government, or American news stations, or American propaganda, or anything American ever use the term “USian”.
I get angry when other people use “fymynysm”, because that is clearly not what feminists want to be called, since they call themselves, well, feminists. Fymynysm is almost like spitting in their face. It’s rude. If gay rights advocates, somehow, collectively made it known they wanted to be called fymynysts I’d refer to them as fymynysts.