It’s always handy when one of the MGTOW brethren sums up one of the tribe’s beliefs in a handy little post. The following is what every single MRTOWer out there (not to mention many MRAs and PUAs and even some non-acronymified misogynists) seems to believe about how women live their lives today. When I say “every single MGTOWer” I’m not really exaggerating for impact – well, maybe a teensy bit. But I don’t think I’ve ever run across an MGTOWer who doesn’t take all of the following on faith.
Like many manosphere beliefs about women – like the whole “women only fuck the top 20% of men” thing – there is of course not a shred of evidence for any of this. It’s an essentially religious belief, accepted on faith. MGTOWers are like monks in the douchiest religion ever.
Anyway, fresh from a post by “Rogue” on NiceGuy’s MGTOW forum, here’s how all you ladies are living your lives:
The modern woman’s life plan goes like this:
Step 1) From first sexual awakening throughout her twenties, fuck as many Alpha Asshole men (hereafter referred to as AA) as she can in a quest of sheer narcissistic hedonism. May give birth to an AA spawn during this time; party lifestyle and general female educative path (elementary teacher, social worker) results in shaky finances.
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Step 2) Oops, getting close to or past age 30? Find a Nice Guy Beta (hereafter referred to as NGB), dupe him into marriage with sex (he’s generally grateful for the attention, having had less than stellar success with women throughout his twenties), use his money to stabilize shaky finances. Strong likelihood of having another child or two; may again be AA spawn due to affairs. Pack on 30 pounds of fat (at least!). Cut off sex with NGB since she now has him over a barrel and was never really attracted to him in the first place. Get steadily angrier and more dissatisfied.
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Step 3) Divorce at or slightly before age 40; attempt to remount AA cock carousel, this time as a cougar. Fail miserably because no AA wants an old, fat female body and a loose pussy that looks like a hunk of roast beef that’s been worked over with a dozen ball-peen hammers for a month. Said failure twists her mind until her only remaining pleasure in life is to fuck with ex-NGB in various ways such as taking him back to court to raise CS payments, or denying him visitation rights to his children.
[citation needed]
Step 4) Accept that she’s past her time for the AA cock carousel; become a companion to many cats.
[citation needed]
And what’s with all the cat-hatred, anyway? Cats are adorable, endlessly fascinating little monsters who do no harm to anyone, unless you count all the times my cat has attacked me without provocation and the fact that she just threw up her dinner and is now insistently demanding a second dinner. To paraphrase Samuel L. Jackson’s character in Jackie Brown, you can trust cats to be cats.
Anyway, back to the sermon:
The marriage strike is just an attempt to short-circuit steps 2 and 3, and force women to ride step 1 as long as they can, then transition directly to step 4. Will women like the result if, instead of rushing to save them at age 30, men just shake their heads and walk away? I think it’s an experiment worth trying.
Once again: please, please, please walk away. Walk far away. Become monks in your douchy religion. Just remember that most monks who take a vow of chastity don’t spend the rest of their lives whining about how women are a bunch of filthy bitches.
Oh, and before anyone pops in with a “why do you pick on the outliers, this guy doesn’t represent bla bla bla,” the post (which naturally got nothing but huzzahs on NiceGuy’s forum) was also highlighted on the MRA blog What Men Are Saying About Women as an example of “superb” discussion of the Woman Question. This bullshit is Manosphere-Approved bullshit.
So basically his problem is “this is not what I’m used to so it’s wrong and sounds stupid”? xD I bet he got angry when they demoted Pluto as a planet too xD
@Ami:
Great minds, eh?
“Places change names, MRAL, why are you so doggedly insistant that the system you know is the only correct one? I’ll bet you think Pluto is actually a planet, and its stupid that those scientists all of a sudden decided it wasn’t.” – earlier
Kirby, you’re right. It’s a misnomer. So?
My point is that you are totally and blatantly wrong when you said above that America is not a continent. It is in fact a super continent split into smaller continents of North, South, and Central America. Hence: *gasp!* America is an actual name of a place that exists!
@MRAL:
So if we were actually called the United States of North America, all of a sudden your argument becomes “we should be called North Americans” which you’ve already realized is faulty. Ami’s pointed out a number of places where North and South America are collectively “America” so you can’t call us Americans either, for the same reason.
So you’re stuck with something silly like USians. 😛 (though even that might be confusing, given that there are a lot of United States of Xs out there).
http://teachingamericanhistory.org/library/index.asp?documentprint=1594
” This morning’s press carries a story of a conspiracy in Mexico directed by Nazi influences. No “new world order” shall, by the sword of conquest, be established in the continents of America.”
That’s even from a US Senator xD
Also MRAL I find it amusing that you will argue what amounts to 7th grade geography but you won’t address your comments about Mecca and Islam.
It is in fact a super continent split into smaller continents of North, South, and Central America.
No it’s not. Show me where this is recognized. This is why we refer to “the Americas” which encompass many smaller entities.
If we were called the US of North America, you’d have a point. I would advocate that we simply call ourselves “Americans”, like we do now.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continents
Check the first paragraph.
That senator is wrong, and misspoke. Technically. I mean, in theory, who cares? It’s a very minute distinction. But in stupid politically correct debates like this, the distinctions become very important.
CONVENTIONALLY, they said. That is not the reality now. There are seven continents. America is not one of them.
Uh huh.. you’re a mind reader now? xD
At this point you’ve basically said “I’m right, EVERYBODY ELSE IS WRONG” and you only know this cuz it’s what you grew up “knowing” xD and when presented your knowledge was incomplete, you just refuse cuz it’s nto what you’re used to xD
EVERYBODY ELSE IS WRONG OR MISPOKE, they aren’t smart like you xD
Okay so North America and South America are proper nouns?
I call people from the USA “Americans” too. Yeah, it’s sort of an imperialist term, but then again so is “America,” given that it’s based on the name of a European cartographer.
Some Spanish and Portuguese speakers use the term norteamericano to refer to people from the US and Canada, even though Mexico and Central Americam countries are also North American.
More on terms used to describe us USians:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norteamericano
This is so amusing xD It’s like arguing w/ ppl who can’t stand Pluto got it’s classification changed.. xD
How do you draw this conclusion Ami? I have the dictionary to back me up, which you have kindly linked to. I think we can refer to this before some offhand remarks by a Senator.
MRAL: You say that considering the 1: Feelings of a lot of people (more than inhabit the US) 2: Avoiding ambiguity, is “juvenile”.
Then you agree with Ami that you were rude to me, not because of anything I’d done, specifically, but because you think my repeating something other people have said, which you find… what.. wrong, silly, less than euphonious? justifies you calling me a dumbass?
Well…. why should anyone be well-mannered to anyone? Because really, I’ve heard the bigotted, inane, ignorant, and yes, “juvenile” claim that “Islam is a threat to all that’s good and fair and just” before.
Should I then take out any frustrations I have with those people on you? At what point does the past actions of other people attach to the present actions of someone? Why should I be polite to you when you say it?
How many generations have to go by before some previous insult to a group should be forgiven? Should the sack of Jerusalem be rememebered to this very day?
Should we tar say… you, for every offensive thing Meller has ever said which even vaguely hints at what you’ve said?
Moreover, to be consistent, that undercuts any claim you have to Dave being unfair when he (and we) mock someone for saying something stupid and misogynist, because other people have said it, so being an asshole to this person is (per the MRAL Doctrine), perfectly fair.
Or are you going to be inconsistent, and just make it up as you go along?
Or admit that, according to you, every bit of every mocking thing that gets said here is appropriate, because someone, somewhere, was wrong once.
I recommend you think, carefully, about your answer, as there may be secondary, and tertiary, consequences resultant from your position.
@ClioPersephone:
As an atheist myself, I would be glad if the “Dome of the Rock” didn’t exist, if that was what both the Islamic and Jewish faiths both claim as holy.. I by no means would want to bomb it though, that’s just stupid…
But why mecca? I mean… its basically Vatican City… Is it that Islam is a violent religion? I got news for you, MRALsy, they all are violent religions when they are in power (except Janism, I guess…), and they are all peaceful. It depends on the times and the people. But Islam as a whole is not violent, there is a particular subgroup that takes all the violent parts of the Qur’an and uses it as justification for violence. You aren’t gonna get rid of them by bombing their holy lands, if anything it’ll turn into all out war. (oh wait, that’s already happened… -__- )
He didn’t even rly read the dictionary definition did he? xD It doesn’t back you up xD
I think you need to prove that America refers to ONLY The United States at this point xD Cuz you’re just going “LALALALALALA” to everything else, incl the dictionary xD
MRAL convention is defined as a set of agreed upon criteria, norms etc. Some people will argue that continents are continuous land masses. But even under this classification America is recognized as a continent along with Afro-Eurasia, Antarctica, and Australia.
Pecunium, I kind of just don’t like you. You’ve yelled at me a lot.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_(word)
he seems to believe the history of the word didn’t exist xD and that the United States of America, North America and South America were all separate proper names created independently xD
And as usual, he’s too stubborn to admit he’s wrong and just didn’t know everything there was to know xD
xD I did xD read the XDDDDDD dictionary definition and I responded xDDD to it xD above
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@MRAL:
If that’s the proper criteria for rudeness, then every single person on this forum is justified in calling you just about every name in the book. Jus saying.