It’s always handy when one of the MGTOW brethren sums up one of the tribe’s beliefs in a handy little post. The following is what every single MRTOWer out there (not to mention many MRAs and PUAs and even some non-acronymified misogynists) seems to believe about how women live their lives today. When I say “every single MGTOWer” I’m not really exaggerating for impact – well, maybe a teensy bit. But I don’t think I’ve ever run across an MGTOWer who doesn’t take all of the following on faith.
Like many manosphere beliefs about women – like the whole “women only fuck the top 20% of men” thing – there is of course not a shred of evidence for any of this. It’s an essentially religious belief, accepted on faith. MGTOWers are like monks in the douchiest religion ever.
Anyway, fresh from a post by “Rogue” on NiceGuy’s MGTOW forum, here’s how all you ladies are living your lives:
The modern woman’s life plan goes like this:
Step 1) From first sexual awakening throughout her twenties, fuck as many Alpha Asshole men (hereafter referred to as AA) as she can in a quest of sheer narcissistic hedonism. May give birth to an AA spawn during this time; party lifestyle and general female educative path (elementary teacher, social worker) results in shaky finances.
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Step 2) Oops, getting close to or past age 30? Find a Nice Guy Beta (hereafter referred to as NGB), dupe him into marriage with sex (he’s generally grateful for the attention, having had less than stellar success with women throughout his twenties), use his money to stabilize shaky finances. Strong likelihood of having another child or two; may again be AA spawn due to affairs. Pack on 30 pounds of fat (at least!). Cut off sex with NGB since she now has him over a barrel and was never really attracted to him in the first place. Get steadily angrier and more dissatisfied.
[citation needed]
Step 3) Divorce at or slightly before age 40; attempt to remount AA cock carousel, this time as a cougar. Fail miserably because no AA wants an old, fat female body and a loose pussy that looks like a hunk of roast beef that’s been worked over with a dozen ball-peen hammers for a month. Said failure twists her mind until her only remaining pleasure in life is to fuck with ex-NGB in various ways such as taking him back to court to raise CS payments, or denying him visitation rights to his children.
[citation needed]
Step 4) Accept that she’s past her time for the AA cock carousel; become a companion to many cats.
[citation needed]
And what’s with all the cat-hatred, anyway? Cats are adorable, endlessly fascinating little monsters who do no harm to anyone, unless you count all the times my cat has attacked me without provocation and the fact that she just threw up her dinner and is now insistently demanding a second dinner. To paraphrase Samuel L. Jackson’s character in Jackie Brown, you can trust cats to be cats.
Anyway, back to the sermon:
The marriage strike is just an attempt to short-circuit steps 2 and 3, and force women to ride step 1 as long as they can, then transition directly to step 4. Will women like the result if, instead of rushing to save them at age 30, men just shake their heads and walk away? I think it’s an experiment worth trying.
Once again: please, please, please walk away. Walk far away. Become monks in your douchy religion. Just remember that most monks who take a vow of chastity don’t spend the rest of their lives whining about how women are a bunch of filthy bitches.
Oh, and before anyone pops in with a “why do you pick on the outliers, this guy doesn’t represent bla bla bla,” the post (which naturally got nothing but huzzahs on NiceGuy’s forum) was also highlighted on the MRA blog What Men Are Saying About Women as an example of “superb” discussion of the Woman Question. This bullshit is Manosphere-Approved bullshit.
Hey Holly, if you had a dragon, what would you name him? (I’m thinking of making that dragon like the former King/Husband that you turned into a dragon servant, so if that helps you come up w/ a name that might be an in-joke for you or something :3 )
“Marc – If I tell you that you’re a chronic liar, that you want to ruin people’s lives for your petty amusement, that crimes against you shouldn’t even be investigated because you’re such a liar, and that your only value to society is as a warm orifice, will you think:”
link plz
Marc, I forgot to mention: No, I don’t post anonymously on NiceGuy’s forum or any other men’s rights/mgtow/pua etc forums. I never have. (I’ve posted a tiny handful of comments on MR blogs under my own name.) The people I quote on these forums are regulars there; in many cases they’ve posted hundreds if not thousands of comments. Seriously. And there’s very little disagreement on these boards, at least when it comes to woman hating. MGTOWforums doesn’t require registration; go there and see. (It’s only a couple of months old and many regulars have already posted hundreds of comments.)
There are tons of blogs and websites that post articles about the danger of Islam, and support racial profiling of Muslims.
The fuck are you on about?
With their real names visible, I doubt that! 😛
@Holly definitely! :3 Post it! 😀 (and before nebody might point it out, yus I based your card on Phage The Untouchable)
Ami – Can I post that card on my blog (with credit of course)? I love it!
Also, the best in-joke name for the dragon would be Rowdy.
Marc: The fact that you blatantly said that Islam is a “real danger” suggests that you think all Muslims are terrorists. Do you actually listen to yourself? Or do you just open your mouth and spew?
Cuz it’s hard to get another meaning out of this sentence: “Of course nobody makes a blog against the real dangers like Islam… that would… be dangerous.”
Also, dude, you can’t just add “link plz” at the end of every quote you don’t have a response for. Wait 30 minutes and then come back.
chasing a troll’s tail seems useless -_-;; you notice he doesn’t actually say what he believes xD
I don’t think the stuff David blogs about is part of the larger feminist/humanist discourse. I don’t think all men are MRAs, or that the MRAs are a huge social problem. They’re just SO wrong it’s fascinating to watch them write themselves into corners or explode with frustration.
moralizing + cherry picking + mocking = bad combination
OT, Ami the cards are really cool!
@Ami: “you notice he doesn’t actually say what he believes xD”
I think you’ve figured out what makes this guy tick. He’s getting to be as boring as Slavey. DKM is a nut, but at least he has some variety to his bombast.
@Holly: “Also, the best in-joke name for the dragon would be Rowdy.”
Awwww! 😀
And on generalizations: I DON’T generalize about men based on the posts I write. The kinds of guys I write about here, I feel fairly safe in saying, are NOT representative of all men; I suspect they are quite rare.
They ARE fairly representative of MRAs/MGTOWers/PUAs online. No, not all MRAs are misogynists. But based on the evidence of the vast majority of MRA/MGOTW sites online I feel safe in saying that a very large proportion of MRAs online (at least those who write blog posts, write comments, and vote comments up or down) are misogynists. I would guess the majority are, but I have no way of proving this. But again, on many of the sites most popular with MRAs online, it’s harder to find posts and comments that aren’t misogynist than to find posts and comments that are.
“moralizing + cherry picking + mocking = bad combination”
Marc, you might not have been around for the thread where Kirbywarp jumped up and down with glee when he learned Slavey might be a Creationist. Not because he thought he’d change Slavey’s mind, but for the sheer fun of debate. I think that says a lot about us: we’re a bunch of geeks and nerds who like exercising our debate skills and have a deep interest in social issues. We don’t take ourselves nearly as seriously as you think we do.
Marc: The fact that you blatantly said that Islam is a “real danger” suggests that you think all Muslims are terrorists. Do you actually listen to yourself? Or do you just open your mouth and spew?
I don’t think terrorism is necessary, they will just peacefully replace western civilization by their higher birth rate.
And yes, it’s fundamental to Muslim faith that women are worth less than men. This is just undebatable. It’s in the Qur’an and important hadiths. And no, this religion cannot change like Christianity, it’s the fundamental dogma that the Qur’an is not only inspired by God like the Bible, no, it was dictated by Allah word for word.
Honestly, I maintain that while there is some anger on MRA sanctuaries, it’s no moreso than is found on even moderate feminist blogs. I try to empathize wih the MRA in question, knowing that he’s likely been spat on and kicked at by entitled women and (even worse) alpha male fuck his whole life. I can understand but not agree.
Marc it is fundamental to many religions that women are worth less than men (like… Christianity). Also Islam does and has changed over the centuries just like Christianity. Why do you think that there are several different sects of Islam with different practices and interpretations of the Qur’an?
I don’t think terrorism is necessary, they will just peacefully replace western civilization by their higher birth rate.
Since Islam isn’t technically genetic, this is either racism or just really, really poorly thought out.
Marc: http://www.jihadwatch.org/
The names of the owner is on the front page. It was the first link that came up when on googling “anti islam blogs”.
Is there anything else you’d like to be wrong about?
Honestly I kind of want to outlaw Islam, evacuate everyone from Mecca, and then bomb it. Would solve a lot of problems.
And on generalizations: I DON’T generalize about men based on the posts I write. The kinds of guys I write about here, I feel fairly safe in saying, are NOT representative of all men; I suspect they are quite rare.
The people who write comments here do. They generalize EVERYTHING.
And now, good night.
I’ll leave you know.
Think about what I said.
I’ll never come on this blog again, I’ll never write a comment so you don’t need to reply.
I tried to cure you, but I failed.
I also have more important things to do. I wasted so much time here, I don’t recognize myself.
Goodbye.
Honestly I kind of want to outlaw Islam, evacuate everyone from Mecca, and then bomb it. Would solve a lot of problems.
I do hope someday you’ve grown wiser as well as older and learned more about the world and the people in it, MRAL.
That’s the very nicest thing I can say.
I don’t know thatyou’ve really thought that through, MRAL.
“…and then bomb it.”
Because all the bombing we’ve done in the Middle East already JUST WASN’T ENOUGH.
haha, EPIC FLOUNCE.
He wasn’t very entertaining anyway. There’s only so much you can do with “link plz.”