When the dudes at the Pro-Male/Anti-Feminist Technology blog aren’t wistfully looking forward to the days in which sexbots and artificial wombs make mere flesh-and-blood ladies obsolete, they’re pondering the crucial spiritual questions of our age, like how to pick up hot sluts at church. Any church, really, so long as it’s full of hot sluts. The blogger there – who doesn’t give his name, so let’s just call him Anti – recently highlighted this observation, from commenter The Fifth Horseman:
[C]hurch would be a great place for a PUA to run Game …
1) There is a built-in structure to meet women that takes out the difficulty of doing a cold approach.
2) All other men there are so pedestalizing, that the competition to a man who actually runs moderate Game is nil.
3) Sunday morning = where else would you Game at that time?
4) Once you have slept with a couple women in that church, simply move on to another church. Who cares if one is Baptist and the other is Episcopalian and the third is Lutheran? Just use up the desirable women and move on.
Jesus wept.
But Anti didn’t, and added his two cents to the discussion:
All you need to do to use the “Sunday Morning Nightclub” is find a church with single women. Some churches are pretty much all families so avoid them. Other churches are supertraditional where everyone gets married before 20. … I would also avoid Eastern Orthodox churches. …
When it comes to meeting the women there, you already have built in openers to use such as how “you have been looking for a church”. These women will put out for you. You aren’t going to find any virgins waiting for marriage (with the exception of a few outliers with very unusual issues). The women there are better described as “sluts for Jesus”.
Absolutely. All you need to do, fellas, is to approach them calmly and confidently, look quickly down at your crotch, then directly into their eyes, and ask them: “Would you like to meet … Little Jesus”
Verily, I say unto you, it works every time.
Can you just delete it and I’ll put up what I meant to say?
I know that, but the website I was trying to quote didn’t.
POST ATTEMPT TWO. SORRY
The idea that Orthodox Christianity is somehow more ‘masculine” seems to be common among conservative Catholics and Episcopalians who left their churches because of teh ghey, like Rod Dreher.
http://alicublog.blogspot.com/2011/05/trip-down-memory-lane.html
from
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/guest-voices/post/whats-so-appealing-about-orthodoxy/2011/03/17/ABu3Z6l_blog.html
It’s confused with, or has morphed into, the idea that more men than women go to Orthodox churches, which might be wrong or not, I don’t know.
But while I was trying to look up male/female attendance ratios in the US broken down by denomination, I found this lovely nugget, which is what I was trying to quote from earlier.
https://yetzerhara.wordpress.com/2011/04/02/all-women-have-the-same-religion/
Anyway, none of this was me.
Matt Smith is…Batman?
Voip: I’m glad I was neutral in my response. 🙂 The lack of clear blockquoting made it hard to tell if that was your belief, or someone else’s.
I’ve been to Greek, and Russian , Orthodox services (and Macedonian Orthodox social gatherings… religious holiday parties… much dancing, much food, much good times) and can’t say that I’ve seen a significant skew toward men. It may be more men join them, as converts, but the culture seems to do a fine job of keeping the people who are reared in the tradition, and so (as with most churches, though the Gamers don’t care) the skew is toward more women… because for some reason older men seem to fall away from active practice.
Spearohoc: here is some serious superhero action.
VoiP I deleted the old post and left a little note from me explaining things in its spot. (And I fixed a glitch in your revised comment.)
If anyone wants to do quoting and other stuff without bothering with html code, I suggest you get the bbcodeextra add-on for Firefox, which makes it all easy.
Oh, and here’s the rest of the quote from that blog you quoted from, just because some people responded to the specifics of it:
Voip: I went and looked at that site… wow… there is some muzzy thinking there. His clarification of his post on the economy is about 3/4s rational, and the rest makes it unworkable. His ideas about how women things (or what feminism is about).
Breathtaking.
And… wow… the way he commits a teleological fallacy while discussing, telos is just…wow….
Wow… I mean wow. The guy is arguing classical Aristotelian definitions of, “The Good” (Arrows are meant to hit the target, it’s there telos, which is a term of art in the Philosophy of Ethics. It’s one of the few places Aristotle and Plato were in parallel (it’s the root idea behind Platonic Ideals).
In short, this guy believes there are absolutes, ends to which one mus aspire, or fail in the quality of “excellence” (in the Greek this is arete) but he’s even further idealised it as “manly”, I suspect because it was a word which could be [and was often] used as, “virtue”, and his ideas of “virtue” are warped.
Oi…
I ADORE the phrase “sliding scale of witchcraft” and will use it whenever possible.
No problem. That was a terrible post.
Also, apparently we have “Somber subdued services”? News to me…
This is my favorite example of how somber, restrained, and dudely we are.
http://www.istok.net/clergy-vestments-bishop-vestment-set-ch.html
BTW: The name of his blog is Hebrew for, “The will/inclination to do Evil”
VoiP: I suspect, to someone not steeped in the tradition, they seem somber. I certainly think them a bit restrained, but I’m an RC/Anglican. If one were used to modern US Christianity… with the shouting, and the bellowed hymns, or Gospel music and random cries from the pews… Well an Orthodox service (even an RC one) is a lot less… something.
I forgot to add, I find a good Mass to be a bit on the ecstatic side. It takes me a bit to get that when I don’t speak the liturgical language, but I can do it. So I find Orthodox services to be, I don’t know, a bit more staid, not somber, per se, but it takes more for me to step outside myself, and into the numinous.
Huh. I used to be Catholic, and often it was all I could do not to space out, while I’ve rarely had that problem in Orthodox Liturgies, even back when I was less familiar with what was going on.
>>BTW: The name of his blog is Hebrew for, “The will/inclination to do Evil”<<
This is what AA refers to as "a moment of clarity"
Ami: Oh, I don’t see any reason why anybody should respond to that–nor is expertise limited to academic credentials–it just struck me as an ongoing bit of his repetoire to claim that we’re all stuck in our ivory towers.
And it wouldn’t matter if people did respond, or how they responded, because he doesn’t believe anything anybody says anyway!
Citation: the recent discussion on evolution theory!! XD
VoiP: TO be fair… in Judaism it’s not that cut and dried, but in some ways it’s worse. Yezter Hara is the folly of youth, before one is old enough for Tezter Hatov to step in (at 13) and make one see what is right and fitting.
When the good inclination begins (at 13) one moves from childhood to young adulthood.
Rashi tells that the yezter hara is like an Old King (referring to a verse in Ecclesiaties, “Better to be a poor, but wise, child, than an foolish old king who cannot accept admonition”), in that we are willful, answering to nothing but our desires until we gain reason; but to be good, and accept the tenets of reason is hard. We are, after all, used to the old ways, and pursuing nothing but what we want, instead of looking to what is right.
And this guy is advertising that his mindset is that of the selfish child, as he presents the principles of proper living.
As I said, Oi.
Citation 1: Bacteria in salt flats
NWO said All over the world there are salt flats of which they supposedly date these salt flats at millions of years old. Unfortunately they keep finding bacteria fossils. A clear impossibility considering nothing can survive that long in salt. Ta boot they’ve identified the bacteria as around, you guessed it 6000 years old. They then come up with a new “theory” of how it got there.
The LaPlace Demon noted, reasonably enough, [citation needed].
And since my dad was a geologist, and i’m always interested in stuff relating to geology, I went looking: turns out there are these nifty bacteria, and there are nifty theories being developed about them (duh theories always develop and new theoriest replace older ones that’s how the process works).
BUT nothng says the bacteria are only 6000 years old. To avoid moderation, one citation per message (is that called citation spamming?):
Encyclopedia of Science:
http://www.daviddarling.info/encyclopedia/H/halophile.html
Saltwater can evaporate leaving evaporite deposits consisting of salts such as sodium chloride (halite) and calcium sulfate (gypsum). Within evaporates are fluid inclusions – small trapped pockets of water – that can provide a refuge for microbes for at least six months. Cyanobacteria trapped within dry evaporite crusts can continue to have low levels of metabolic function such as photosynthesis. These deposits also form fossils of the organisms trapped within. Although highly controversial, it has been claimed that bacteria might survive for millions of years in the fluid inclusions of salt deposits including evaporates. Intriguingly, such deposits have been found on Mars.
Citation 2: Bacteria in salt flats
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1347528/The-34-000-year-old-bacteria-thats-alive.html
A scientist has discovered 34,000-year-old bacteria buried underneath a Californian desert.
The discovery was made after researchers dug up salt crystals below Death Valley in Eastern California for climate research.
Ancient microbes were found trapped inside tiny, fluid-filled chambers within the crystals.
I’m not a mathemetician, Jim, but I think 34,000 is OLDER than 6000!
Citation 3: Bateria in salt flats
OMG, I’ve been at Soap Lake, Washinton!
http://www.soaplakeconservancy.org/info/vanishing/ScienceDaily%20Ecosystem%20Of%20Vanishing%20Lake%20Yields%20Valuable%20Bacterium.htm
Soap Lake is one of only 11 known meromictic lakes in the United States. The water in meromictic lakes separates into layers of differing mineral concentrations. The upper layer of Soap Lake is a little less than half the saltiness of the ocean, but more than 100-times saltier than river water. The bottom layer is more than twice as salty as the ocean and more than 700-times saltier than river water. These two layers are thought to have remained unmixed in any significant way for the past 2,000 to 10,000 years. The conditions of Soap Lake are considered so extraordinary the National Science Foundation designated it a “microbial observatory.”
So, NWO, as far as I can tell your claim that the bacteria found in salt flats are dated to 6K years old thus proving your creation science is total bunk.
You know, it takes people only a few moments to google so even if they are not experts in the field (and you know, there are lots of experts who don’t have academic degrees), it’s possible to them to Prove you wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong!
Why do you keep opening mouth and inserting foot?
@Ami and Kirbywarp: Radical Feminist Beavers of War: “They work swiftly to ensure that no wall of the Patriarchy will remain standing.”
*nearly spits Fanta Zero through nose*
*hands you the Internets*
MIGAWD, if I could be a Radical Feminist Beaver of War, I might actually play that game (we have a small but dedicated group of Magic The Gathering players on campus–I helped set up an organized student group to sponsor it, but despite the earnest solicitations of the dudes, I’ve never played. But their cards were never as cool as this.
If you all did this as a t-shirt, would SO BUY IT!!!!!!!!
I should create my own brand of clothing xD “XD Wear By Ami”
or maybe just “XD by Ami”
xD
A “Radical Feminist Beaver of War” sports jersey would be a great idea now that I think about it xD You could have your last name at the back with a number (dun everybody take 69 now >_> ) xD
Ami: that is the single thing that would get me into a sports jersey–my favorite number is 13!
Radical Feminist Beavers of War: Gnawing at the ROOT of the patriarchy!
XD
Recommendation for excellent books on translations of the Bible, early Christianity, changes over time, etc.:
Bart Ehrman
http://www.bartdehrman.com/
Brilliantly written to make some pretty complex stuff accessible to those of us (LIKE ME) not trained in theology or translation issues. HIGHLY recommended.