Today, a trip down memory lane to revisit an until-recently lost classic of modern misogyny: Jay Hammers’ “The Age of Consent is Misandry.” The piece, originally published on Jay Hammers’Men’s Rights blog, inspired some heated discussions amongst MRAs online, with some harshly criticizing the piece as an apologia for pedophilia and others hailing it as a “politically incorrect” masterpiece. Stung by the criticism, Hammers ultimately took his blog down. But the piece has since been resurrected on the Human-Stupidity blog – another blog that seems rather unhealthily obsessed with the supposed injustice of men not being allowed to fuck underage girls.
Here are some of its highlights (that is, lowlights); the headlines are mine.
ALL ABOUT THE MENZ
The arbitrary age of consent is not about protecting women/girls. It is about valuing females and their virtue over males and their freedom. The intent of the laws is to stop older men from having sex with younger women and that is how it is enforced. It was never intended to stop younger men from having sex with older women.
MORE BETA BLUES
Age of consent laws are designed to punish beta males. A beta male in his 20s, unsuccessful with women his own age who are infused with a sense of feminist entitlement and deride all but the top alpha males who take interest in them, who seeks companionship with a younger, sexually mature female who desires him, should not go to prison for acting on that which is normal male sexuality.
FEMINISTS WHO SUPPORT AGE OF CONSENT LAWS ARE TREATING WOMEN LIKE CHILDREN
If we are to treat women as children then we should be consistent. Young women who have sex with older men are as much victims as women who have sex with a pick-up artist after meeting at a club. In both cases, feminists are angry because the woman has been “fooled” into having sex with a less than ideal mate in terms of value. …
This is what makes feminists angry and this is why age of consent exists still today, because it is assumed women are not mentally mature enough to give consent AND because older women want to limit men’s options to increase their own value in the sexual marketplace.
BUT WOMEN ARE CHILDREN, BASICALLY
Older women … are generally not of a much higher intelligence level than teenage girls. The big difference between the two is that older women are less attractive and that is what makes them so damn angry. …
Females generally do not significantly mature mentally past puberty so it should always be illegal for any woman to have sex or it should never be illegal for any woman to have sex. There is no arbitrary age where females suddenly become self-aware, realizing the consequences of their actions, and stop seeking out alpha males. Thus there must not be an arbitrary age of consent for sex.
A MODEST PROPOSAL
If anything, it should be illegal for women to have sex with men until men have been educated on the truths of women, Marriage 2.0, Game, feminism, and men’s rights.
Discuss?
@MRAL:
In case that wasn’t clear, why are you allowed to say your issues are so much worse than everyone elses when they are not permemenant? I mean, hell! People can switch genders if they feel they were born in the wrong body. Why are your problems so bad, when they can be fixed just like anything else?
So, what do you think, MRAL: Is the Doctor an Alpha?
Sure, a lot of his incarnations have been tall and/or handsome, but 1, 2 and 7 were short and old (or at least middle-aged). He’s usually pretty cocky, but 5 was fairly conciliatory. He hangs around with mostly attractive young women, but he never sleeps with them (unless you believe some of the fan fiction accounts).
” indeed often not permanent” That is the exact opposite of true…
My issues are permanent, wtf are you talking about? There is no way to improve my eye, I’ve looked the fuck out of that. I actually am considering the leg lengthening surgery, but it is not an option until I am 24 (youngest they will do it).
Look, I’m not going to have another thread turned into the MRAL show.
MRAL, it is very clear to basically everyone but you that your primary problem is in your head. Notably, your obsession with height and with your eye. I don’t want you talking about it here any more, and I don’t want anyone else talking about it here any more.Jokes included.
MRAL, if you want to talk about ANY OTHER ISSUE besides yourself and what you see as your very personal disadvantages, feel free. Just don’t make it all about you.
So, MRAL, I have one favor to ask from you. Well, it’s not really a favor; it’s sort of a prerequisite if you want to stay off moderation here. I know you don’t believe you have body dysmorphic disorder (BDD), and obviously since I’m not an expert and have never met you I can’t diagnose you over the internet, I want you to go to this web site and read some of the threads and see if any of what people are saying there reminds you of yourself, then come back here and (regardless what you think of what they say) post something that shows you did indeed go over and look at this site and at at least one of the threads I list below.
http://bddcentral.com/forums/
Here are several specific threads that relate to one of your obsessions:
http://bddcentral.com/forums/index.php?topic=8047.0
http://bddcentral.com/forums/index.php?topic=8983.0
http://bddcentral.com/forums/index.php?topic=9516.0
http://bddcentral.com/forums/index.php?topic=9688.0
@MRAL;
24 is rediculously young, and it is possible. People have talked about glass eyes, are you too lazy to go through with it? Again, your issues are not permenant. And again, if people can switch genders, why can’t you switch your eye and your height? Why are your problems suddenly impossible to deal with (they aren’t)? Why are your problems different from anything else?
You could regenerate. Maybe this incarnation of you is the MRAL-equivalent of Colin Baker, and your next form with be far more likable, interesting, and have better companions.
Yes, I am a fan of Sylvester McCoy. How could you tell?
*will be, also, too. Tired, I am.
Well my question wasn’t about MRAL’s physical issues xD It was about who he thinks would be helping if he were working at a men’s shelter, or crisis hotline? I’m genuinely curious, b/c of his whole “I’d be helping ppl better off than me!” and “it’s probably Alpha’s taking advantage of stuff for fun!” comments xD
Okay, trying this for the third (or is it fourth? fifth?) time.
Mr. Al? Do you think any of these groups of people are worse off than you are? Would you consider any of them worthy of volunteering to help?
*Disabled veterans?
*Cognitively disabled people?
*People seeking end-of-life care for painful diseases?
*People who are living in daily poverty and working in dangerous conditions, and honestly have no other options because of their background or environment?
*Refugees from war-torn countries who have seen violence done to their friends and family?
*People who have lived through natural disasters and lost everything they have?
I know you’re totally self-absorbed, so the answers are probably no and no. As I’ve intuited from your lack of response. But I give you the benefit of the doubt, for some reason. Please, enlighten us.
Sorry, David. Should have refreshed before posting.
It’s been more than a day now, but I’m still sort of amused by NWO’s whiplash-fast switches between “women are all silly inferior beings” and “what about the Power of Love”?
What I’m not amused by, as usual, is the lack of a single MRA willing to come on here and say “no, these people are wrong about kiddyfucking, that’s gross and wrong to do, and it’s a distraction from the important issues of Men’s Rights.” Instead, they’ve been, to a man, pro-kiddyfucking.
If these guys want to claim that Men’s Rights is a warmfuzzy movement uplifting the downtrodden, never mind linking us to moderate reasonable MRAs–they could at least act like moderate reasonable MRAs themselves one of these years.
[Lengthy post about the relative attractiveness of the Doctors Who deleted]
In closing: Christopher Eccleston. RAWR.
@Holly also, even tho they pay lip service to the idea of a young person’s autonomy, they don’t actually give a crap about that or rights (of ANYBODY) to control their body (as the opposition to abortion, transition, homosexuality, etc proves) -_-;;; It is shocking tho that not a single one of our MRA trolls said nething… and Meller apparently wants to go even lower to 11 >_<;;
Glass eyes look fake. I have a scleral shell and it looks like shit, so I don’t wear it anymore. Anything I do would make the eye worse.
@KristinMH he’s my fav too! :3
@Ami and Holly:
Even if the right thing to do was to allow younger kids the choice of bodily autonomy, these guys don’t care. Its not about the kid choosing, its about their rights as men to fuck young girls.
I’ve been liking Matt Smith. I was wary at first but he’s grown on me.
Still, I hope they pick a woman or a non-white person next time. It’s been concretely established that Time Lords can change race and sex during regeneration. Have at it, already!
@Spearhafoc I want to see that too! They should cast me! :3 (but I dun have a British accent : )
Ami – 11! I missed that one. Crap, I was extremely pre-pubescent at 11. That’s past the “teenagers who can’t make good decisions when adults are pressuring them” sort-of complexity and straight into pedophilia.
Kirby – Yeah. It’s frustrating how the potentially interesting subject of “men’s rights” always seems to be interpreted as “men’s rights over women.” (Or in this case, girls.) Not a lot of standalone rights on the table.
derp, italics.
Yes, the Doctor must be British (that can mean English, Scottish, Welsh or Irish). That’s where I draw the line.
Ami – Do you have a Canadian accent?
Please tell me that you say “aboot” and “eh.” I’m not making fun of you, but somehow, learning this would make my day.
I like Matt Smith a lot in the role, but he’s not attractive to me. His face looks a little, I don’t know…sort of craggy and half-formed, like someone made it out of clay and didn’t quite finish it.
So I suppose he’s the opposite of the facial alpha. A facial beta?
All the talk of Doctor Who is making me want to go watch some. Night-night! I’ll be in my bunk.
Okay, Irish isn’t technically British (United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, and all that) but you know what I mean.