If you thought the “meat market” guy from a couple of days ago – you know, the one prattling on about the “market makers of pussy” — was risibly wrongheaded, here’s an even more insidious attempt to reduce the complexities of human sexuality to a question of “supply and demand.” Over on The False Rape Society blog, Pierce Harlan has a new post with the title:
False rape claims: increasingly a tool to skew the current economies of sex, where sex is cheaper than most women prefer
As you might imagine, the post itself is based on some fairly twisty blame-the-victim logic – with some feminist-bashing thrown in for good measure. Let’s wade through the muck here.
According to Harlan, the “cultural tenets governing sexual encounters” have gone all loosey-goosey in recent years, due to birth control, a general loosening of sexual mores and “the feminist-inspired norms that pressure young women to ‘party like the guys.’”
I assume you have all read Mary Wollstonecraft’s classic A Vindication of the Rights of Women to Get Totally Wasted and Fuck Some Dudes.
But, alas, feminists totally don’t understand the law of supply and demand –and that in the market of sex, they are the supply and not the demand (because it’s not like women ever really want to have sex themselves). As a result, the feminist-inspired young women of today are totally flooding the market with cut-rate pussy.
As Harlan explains:
The experts tell us that men have a much easier time obtaining sex than they did in days long gone. … Women who’d prefer to put a higher price tag on their sexuality are finding themselves locked out of the market.
The results are all too predictable. Women are having sex more often when they secretly are conflicted about it. We’ve frequently reported here about the proven gender “regret asymmetry” where young women have much higher levels of after-the-fact regret than men following sexual hook-ups. Regret too often is transmogrified into feelings of being used, and feeling used too often metamorphoses into a false rape claim.
Does Harlan have any evidence to back up this hypothesis? Yes. And it comes straight from his ass.
Having studied the false rape phenomenon closely for a number of years, it is my conclusion that young women are increasingly resorting to false rape claims as an inappropriate method of skewing the current economies of sex, which favors men and which makes sex cheaper than most women consciously or subconsciously prefer.
In other words: he has spent the last several years searching out news stories on false rape accusations to post on his blog. Because there are almost 7 billion people on planet earth, he has been able to find a fair number of such stories. So he’s concluded that there is some sort of “false rape epidemic” going on. In other words, his conclusion seems to be based almost entirely on what’s known as the “availability heuristic,” which, as Wikipedia puts it, “is a phenomenon (which can result in a cognitive bias) in which people predict the frequency of an event, or a proportion within a population, based on how easily an example can be brought to mind.”
Were I to start a blog entitled “The Dudes Peeing on Things You Shouldn’t Pee On Society,” guess what? I too could cite many examples, drawn from the newspapers of the world. Were I to do this for several years, my brain would be stuffed full of stories of men urinating on just about anything that can be urinated on, from prayer rugs to cough drops. This, through the power of the “availability heuristic,” might convince me that we faced an epidemic of inappropriately urinating men, and that this epidemic was getting worse by the hour. (I mean, before I started specifically looking for such stories I almost never heard about this terrible social ill.)
But back to Harlan and his argument, such as it is:
Women are pressured by feminist-inspired norms to make themselves more available to men than ever, but they have also learned that crying rape after-the-fact is a culturally accepted, indeed, feminist approved, antidote to sex they feel was too cheaply obtained. Instead of saying “no” up front, they are retroactively saying “no” — with false rape claims — after-the-fact. And society has given this backward state of affairs its imprimatur.
One solution? Women need to stop having so much sex — for the sake of teh menz. Or as Harlan, still working the creaky economic metaphor, puts it:
One cure is to enhance the value of female sexuality by decreasing the supply and thereby reduce both regret and false rape claims.
But, darn it, this won’t work, because women are out there marching in the street for the right to, you know, have sex when they want to with consenting partners without being shamed for it.
That, of course, can never happen in a society where “slut walks” are celebrated as liberating events, where colleges excuse women from underage drinking charges so long as they report they were raped, and where false rape claims are routinely excused and implicitly encouraged. In short, it can never happen in a society that encourages young women to be promiscuous and to then tell rape lies when that promiscuity results in an unfavorable sexual experience.
Harlan ends his piece with a call to lock up false accusers for a long time.
Certainly malicious false accusers should be charged. Women who identify the wrong guy in a lineup? No.
And it would be nice if Harlan extended the sympathy he shows for falsely accused men to real victims of real rape, a much larger group of people than the falsely accused. But instead he writes pieces like this one, and links in his sidebar to a host of misogynist blogs that, among other things, routinely joke about female victims of rape and murder, that urge men on juries in rape trials to vote to acquit the accused even when he’s clearly guilty, that claim that age of consent laws are inherently man-hating, and that think it would be great if sex robots and artificial wombs rendered women obsolete.
Those actually interested in helping those falsely accused – rather than supporting Harlan’s retrograde agenda — would do better to support The Innocence Project, and to stop reading Harlan’s drivel.
Linking me to the main page of a blog is not citing a good source, NWO. MAYBE a specific post that goes into DETAIL about a particular study or set of data.
@NWO:
Have you read Title IX? Like, actually read it? Here you go. Notice that it deals with discrimination, and that there are exceptions for stuff like religion and boys-only or girls-only groups.
theLaplaceDemon, if we’re gonna say 90%, which theres no way that number can be assigned. Why not just make 990%, or 9990%. I mean since were plucking numbers out of thin air.
In fact that data on the 1 in 4 was asked by feminists. (A fine source of honest onfo). They asked questions liked did you ever “feel” used or coerced. And other such questions after the fact of consent. If you answered yes, then it’s rape.
To be clear, I do not believe that a lack of conviction in an acquaintance rape is de facto proof of malicious allegations. The woman in question would need to be charged and would have to undergo the procedure of a trial and conviction prior to sentencing.
And yet you believe lack of absolute proof of consent is de facto proof of rape. Sounds kind of hypocritical to me.
If you truly believed that deceitful and spiteful women of the sort you describe should face the same “justice system” that you believe rape accusation victims should go through, then her defense should not be allowed to include any history of rape or violent behavior of her victim, any suggestion her victim might be a bad person or have hurt or pressured her for sex (“he asked for it”) or suggestion without undeniable proof that she misidentified the victim. As well, police and acquaintance statements about her state of dress, inconsistencies in her story, sexual history, preference in porn, preference in film, preference in sexual aids, sexual history involving males of other races, financial status and other such information that is often deemed “pertinent” for accused rapists, cannot be deemed inadmissible as evidence. Fair is fair right? Or do you feminists believe that this is “justice” only for male accused?
kirbywarp, I’ve provided a citation on a previous thread. Look it up. Title IX has moved into the realm of judge, jury and executioner, with their own police investigating force.
“theLaplaceDemon, if we’re gonna say 90%, which theres no way that number can be assigned. Why not just make 990%, or 9990%. I mean since were plucking numbers out of thin air.”
I don’t understand what you mean by this paragraph.
“In fact that data on the 1 in 4 was asked by feminists. (A fine source of honest onfo). They asked questions liked did you ever “feel” used or coerced. And other such questions after the fact of consent. If you answered yes, then it’s rape.”
Okay, that’s still you talking about it and not sending me a link to/about the original source.
You are the one picking numbers out of thin air, not us.
According to Bureau of Justice Statistics, 60% of rapes go unreported: http://www.rainn.org/get-information/statistics/reporting-rates
So what do you want? What she would do about the fact that the very nature of the crime usually means that there are no witnesses other than the accuser and the accused?
The same way we treat every other crime with unreliable (and often unstable) witnesses, witnesses that are also accomplices and witnesses that seek to gain from the accused’s conviction.
The reference to Sharia law is ironic given that feminists seek to (and in many ways already have, see the misandrist application of the law in terms of domestic assault, rape and sexual discrimination and harassment) impose a similar standard on Western men.
Funny. I was about to correct his typo but I ended up Googling it. “Onfo”, according to the Urban Dictionary is “Information or knowledge obtained online, in stead (sic) of in real life, either by playing, talking or listening.”
It was probably a fluke. Still, I have NWOslave to thank for introducing me to a neologism I was unaware of.
@NWO:
What, the one that talked about increased funding? Or the unrelated one that talked about how rape cases would go on proponderance of evidence rather than no doubt?
Plain and simple, this tread is about false accusations.
You find it acceptable.
You don’t care how many men suffer.
You don’t care if women recieve a slap on the wrist for doing this, (actually you like the fact she recieves no punishment).
It simply means nothing to you.
Ozzy and her bullshit “I care about men” thread.
Hatred in, Hatred out.
unintentionalfeminist | June 16, 2011 at 10:01 pm
You are the one picking numbers out of thin air, not us.
According to Bureau of Justice Statistics, 60% of rapes go unreported: http://www.rainn.org/get-information/statistics/reporting-rates
You are like children on a school yard. “My daddy can beat up your argument” Except in this case your daddy is the government, which you feminists so blindly idolize. Grow up. Fight your own battles.
Damn. Tired, I am.
@NWO:
Aren’t we the ones who told you repeatedly what the sentencing is and should be for malicious false rape allegations? Soo.. now we love false accusations? Seriously, you have about the worst comprehension skills I have ever seen.
@aMiRA, I’m still willing to play.
I believe that reasonable doubt works in both directions. There is nothing hypocritical about that.
unintentionalfeminist | June 16, 2011 at 9:51 pm
NWO, Men are not lazy shits any more than women are.
Typical feminist. Implying that all men are lazy and calling them “shits”.
For the last. Fucking. Time. We understand that false accusations are wrong. They hurt people. They should not happen. But they do no happen as much as you think they do.
How do you Know that unintentionalfeminist. A “feeling?”
NWO, in this very thread, not two pages back, multiple posters have said that they believe that women convicted of false accusations with malice of intent should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
What the fuck are you talking about? How does this translate into finding false accusations acceptable?
@uninentionalfeminist:
Actually, NWOslave got this one. We don’t know how much he thinks men are being raped because he never actually makes his position clear. Ah well, a stopped clock is still right twice a day.
Aren’t we the ones who told you repeatedly what the sentencing is and should be for malicious false rape allegations? Soo.. now we love false accusations?
You believe that a person who lies about taking steroids should face the same punishment as one who willfully attempts to imprison a man, a male *human being*, have him labelled as sex offender, i.e. an enemy of the state, and ruin any future he might have for employment, sexual conquest or happiness. Yes. I would say that you do indeed love false accusations.
NWO – I suspect unintentionalfeminist knows because of this:
http://www.rainn.org/get-information/statistics/reporting-rates
Look! A a short, easily-accessible web page that lists the studies it got its figures from! Imagine that!
@Mr. Slave,
“Be sure to send dad a you’re a piece of shit card for fathers day. Just a gentle reminder of his worthlessness.”
Not a bad idea! It’ll save my grandfather the trouble of a worthless son card.
Now you’re just pissing me off. Read this.
“The same way we treat every other crime with unreliable (and often unstable) witnesses, witnesses that are also accomplices and witnesses that seek to gain from the accused’s conviction.”
Which is how, exactly? Elaborate? Naturally, I do not consider rape victims accomplices but I’ve already addressed that. So how do we treat crimes with unreliable witnesses?
What is the procedure? And what do you think it should be?