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Children of Dudes

Dude! I'm making a baby!

Ladies, your days are numbered! The sexy lady sexbots are only a few years off, which will free men of the onerous task of having sex with your cootie-ridden human bodies, and pretty soon you won’t be needed for anything at all, not even making babies. At least according to this comment by “JR” on Roissy’s blog, which was recently highlighted on the Pro-Male/Anti-Feminist Technology blog:

I think the obvious gender-wide frustration of women today can partly be explained by this lowered value of children/reproduction altogether. Women understand that their primary purpose will always be tied up with reproduction and not civilization-altering achievement; now that this purpose has been largely removed, what do they have left? … [M]en are as useful as ever, whereas women’s role as child-bearer is rapidly becoming unnecessary and in many cases even harmful.

Babies? We don’t need no stinkin babies!

And if after a few years of childless Children of Men-style dystopia we male humans decide that maybe it would be good if we, collectively, had a few kids, well, by then some clever dude will have invented an artificial womb. And then, ladies, you’re toast! (Which we dudes will be eating a lot of in the future, by the way, as actual cooking, not to mention sammich-making, is for bitches.) As Mr. Pro-Male/Anti-Feminist Technology explains:

Before … our current level of technology, women were in complete and total control of reproduction.  Women could get knocked up by one guy and claim another guy is the dad and there was no way of knowing what the truth was.  First came increased scientific knowledge about reproduction.  Before that the process of reproduction would have been considered to be almost magical given women room to exercise total control.  This lessened women’s control over reproduction.  In the 20th century came paternity testing so men could know without a doubt who a child’s father is.  Now women have no room to hide except that the law allows for paternity fraud.  Eventually we will have artificial wombs which will allow men to have children without women if they so choose.  The artificial womb represents control of reproduction being wrestled away from women.  This is a pretty direct progression of how women become less and less necessary in reproduction.

Of course, there’s that whole issue of actually raising the little buggers. But don’t worry, dudes are totally better at this, too!

[W]omen’s role as child bearer in many cases is becoming harmful.  …  All the pathologies caused by single mothers do not need to be repeated here.  Beyond single motherhood take a look at younger women in their 20s.  How many of them would you really trust to be mothers even if divorce wasn’t an issue?  Take a look at the current crop of teenage girls, and it’s clear they will be even worse for motherhood than women currently in their 20s.  Don’t forget all the misandry that these women carry which will have a negative impact on any sons you might have with them.  …  All things being equal the two parent family is probably better for raising children, but all things are not equal.  Because of divorce the two parent family can become single motherhood at the drop of a hat.  Single fatherhood from the beginning is better than that.  Even without divorce women are increasingly unqualified to be mothers.  … We are getting to a point where single fatherhood may be the superior system of raising children, especially when it comes to raising sons.

In your face, ladies! Moms suck!  DudeMoms rule!!!!

Of course, not all dudes want to be single fathers. As savethemales notes in the comments on Pro-Male/Anti-Feminist Technology,

Robogirls can take the place of mothers and assist in raising children for the biological dads who employed artificial wombs in the labs to incubate their babies. Personally, I never want kids and frankly, what reason is there? Children and women are a big liability. Actuarial escape velocity and transhumanism will be the answer and logical choice over procreation for many men.

I have no idea what he just said there, but I am totally 100% behind it. Except maybe for the part about Robogirls. I mean, how do we know for sure that Robogirls aren’t going to teach robomisandry to our dude-children?

Personally, I wouldn’t trust my artificial-womb-born dude-children to anyone but a RoboDudeMom.

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theLaplaceDemon
theLaplaceDemon
9 years ago

“feminists are big hairy beasts.”

RoaaARRAWR!

(battle cry of big hairy Femibeast)

I really should just go to bed.

theLaplaceDemon
theLaplaceDemon
9 years ago

imagine that was in a Discovery-channel narrator type voice.

Ami Angelwings
9 years ago

The Beast of Feminism 2BBB

Creature – Feminist Beast

Each turn, during your upkeep, sacrifice a creature you control to The Beast of Feminism, if you do so put a +1/+1 counter on The Beast of Feminism, if you do not, The Beast of Feminism deals 5 damage to you and is tapped

5/5

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
9 years ago

The Beast of Feminism, 2 versions:

“That’s no woman… That’s a feminist!”

“The mighty beast lifted her head high, exposing her barrel chest and hairy knees. ‘Feed me the souls of men!'”

Ami Angelwings
9 years ago

I wonder how much further Mellertron can bring this thread xD So far it’s one of the small ones at 200ish, but I’m sure he can do better! :3 DO NOT LET US DOWN BLOG FERTILIZER! xDDD

Molly Ren
9 years ago

I never though I’d hope DKM would post again, but I want a longer thread. MRAs, where ya at??? It’s not even midnight yet! D:

darksidecat
darksidecat
9 years ago

“Feminists, on the other hand, are a strange mutant strain of creatures;neither male nor really female” No!!! I have been discovered!!!

Kave
Kave
9 years ago

My father was the sales person. Which again goes against male/female roles. He talked the talk while my mother worked on how to design a better _ . In the mra world if women are good at anything they are better at linguistics and general social skills. Opposite was true with my parents.

I was so lucky to have the parents I had who allowed me to decide completely what I wanted to do with my life. Looking back I can’t believe how many risks they let me take on the factory floor, son wants to learn how to forge… so be it at 8 years old! How it sucked to have a feminist mother (sarcasm).

BTW my wife and I have strangely identical parents and childhood. Neither of decided to go to university, so don’t count me in with this ivory tower thing.

Ami Angelwings
9 years ago

@Darksidecat You’re like http://starcraft.wikia.com/wiki/Hybrid !!! :O The ultimate evolution that will see all our ends! Dx

Xtra
9 years ago

Mellertron! I lulz. Futrelle must be Mocktimus Prime. 😀

Molly Ren
9 years ago

So what’s that make Slavey?

Ami Angelwings
9 years ago

I’ll be Exdee/XD! (like Arcee/RC) xD

Ami Angelwings
9 years ago

David Futrelle 3WWW

Legendary Creature – Feminist Overlord

Tap 3 Feminists you control: Destroy target permanent

5/5

Ami Angelwings
9 years ago

Denial of Facts 3UU

Instant

Counter target spell. Search caster’s deck, put all copies of that card into the caster’s graveyard. Caster reshuffles his or her deck.

Ami Angelwings
9 years ago

Holly, of Pervocracy 3BBBB

Legendary Creature – Feminist

When Holly, of Pervocracy comes into play, if you didn’t play it from your hand, you lose the game.

Deathtouch

Whenever Holly, of Pervocracy deals combat damage to a player, that player loses the game.

4/4

Pecunium
9 years ago

Meller: The fuck dude… that’s one hell of a meltdown… I can hear the high-pitched screaming from here.

“Women are people, and properly raised, educated, and loved,, are beautiful, charming, and lovely!”

Tautology… any women whom you think to be not as she ought to be wasn’t properly reared (one raises cattle, one rears children).

But please, explain to me where these “feminists” are. Because I am either deficient in English, not properly vetted in the Feminist Conspiracy, or something, because I’ve not seen many of the raving loons you seem to think are attacking your humanity, manhood, whatver the hell it is you are complaining about.

I’ve spent a lot of time with women. I’ve been in foxholes with them. Had them pull me out of the driving seat of a humvee (ah, the joys of being the driver, you don’t get to shoot back and when you get hit you have to be dragged out of your seat so someone else can take over. Blissfully all I had to do was practice, that; no one actually managed to shoot me). I’ve depended on them to cover my back, collect information, hold the ropes while I rappell,, fetch ammo, deliver outgoing, hump an M203, change tires, splice wire, set up networks, pull guard duty, interrogate prisoners, teach combatives, be range safeties, lead patrols, and all sorts of, “manly” things.

I’d take any one of them over you in a heartbeat. Why? Because they didn’t rule anyone else out of being human. They were willing to sweat, bleed, suffer and die in doing the job.

You… not so much.

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
9 years ago

Aaaand flavor:

David Futrelle, 2 versions:
“The mark of a true leader is never having to bloody your own blade.”
“Name one MRA site that isn’t a cesspool of misogyny. Just one.”

Denial of Facts: “Nathaniel W. Offingston II denied reality so often and with such gusto that, eventually, reality denied him.”

Ami Angelwings
9 years ago

Hypergamy 2UUU

Enchantment

During each player’s upkeep, put all creatures in play under the control of the player with the highest life total, untapped. If all players have equal life totals, creatures remain with their respective controllers.

David K. Meller
David K. Meller
9 years ago

Paraphrasing one individual among you (individuall WHAT, I have NO idea) who sometimes seems to be capable of literacy on a rudimetary level, my most thoughtful response to all of you is:

“You all be Godwinned, your arguments are bunk!”

You can lead thirsty asses to water–but you can’t make them drink!

PEACE AND FREEDOM!!
David K. Meller

speedlines
speedlines
9 years ago

Mad scientist? Middle Ages rhetoric? Or does all propaganda sound the same?

I’m telling you, it’s a Dr. Bronner’s soap label.

Ami Angelwings
9 years ago

And what did I say again? xD

And Kirby! I will respond to your juvenile name-calling with a quote from one of the great scholars of nation: “I know you are, but what am I?”

XDDDD

Ami Angelwings
9 years ago

he ignored everybody but Kirby cuz Kirby was the only one who didn’t actually take down/question what he said xD

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
9 years ago

Also Holly: “Her normally jovial face turned deadly serious as she donned her black leather. She licked her lips slowly as she gave her whip a playful crack, and muttered under her breath. ‘Squirm!'”

Pecunium
9 years ago

It wasn’t me; because I actually know that you weren’t Godwinned, but rather Corollaried.

Godwin merely said that if a thread gets long enough, someone will mention Nazis. I forget who it was who said that means you lose. It’s not true, there are times when mentioning Nazi’s is apposite.

This wasn’t one of them, but you had so far descended to gibbering mania, that it wasn’t needful for you to Godwin to be completely discounted.

Pecunium
9 years ago

Ami: I didn’t (this go round) take down what he said.

I took him down.

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
9 years ago

Grah, she can’t take any more, cap’n!

Hypergamy: “What’s more to life than money and power?”

@DKM:

Obviously, (though you still hate to actually reference me by name), I’m an individual giant pink marshmellow! Also, we all referenced Nazis? Wait… crap, you’re right. XD

“You can lead thirsty asses to water–but you can’t make them drink!”

Yeah.. Even the thirstiest of asses won’t drink raw sewage…

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
9 years ago

@Pecunium:

The way I’ve seen it used in other areas, while you’re technically correct, Godwinning is usually considered an argument lost. Its true though, sometimes Nazis are appropriate. (A quote I hope never ever gets taken out of context)

Ami Angelwings
9 years ago

@Kirby Its true though, sometimes Nazis are appropriate.

That’s exactly what the Nazis said.

And no that’s not a Godwin because

Its true though, sometimes Nazis are appropriate.

Pecunium
9 years ago

Kirby: Having been around on the net when Godwinning first started to becoming a “big deal” I sort of value the distinction, in no small part because sometimes Nazis are an appropriate reference, and I hate to see a thread derailed when someone makes an apropos use of history.

So yes, it’s not a big deal, just a personal peeve.

I also think the Godwinning was the least of his crimes against reason and sanity.

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
9 years ago

@Pecunium:

Yeah, no problem. I myself have seen the subject of nazi’s come up, and people start shouting “Godwin! Godwin!” without actually paying attention to the argument… -_- Ah well.

darksidecat
darksidecat
9 years ago

“individuall WHAT, I have NO idea” We are secretly the lizard people (the small ones, that learned to type with their tiny claws). MRAL is a werewolf, hence his obsession with the question of who are the alphas at every moment. NWO is a troll duke. Eoghan is the troll king. Troll King is actually a troll peasant. (Troll royalty systems can get complicated).

Ami Angelwings
9 years ago

Eoghan is Henry V, disguising himself as a common MRA to walk amongst his people. xD

kristinmh
kristinmh
9 years ago

I’m telling you, it’s a Dr. Bronner’s soap label

Speedlines hits it on the nose!

Whatever it is I find myself skimming it rapidly while scrolling.

PEACE AND FREEDOM!

Kristin M. H.

Holly Pervocracy
9 years ago

Holy crap, Ami, THAT’S my card?!?

…wow…

…I’m your biggest fan.

Laura Bladen
9 years ago

Man, these ‘feminists’ sound fucking scary, amirite?…

PosterformerlyknownasElizabeth

DKM-If we were to accept your premise that men are more intelligent and creative then women, it does not follow that simply because someone is less creative that we automatically deny them an opportunity to express that creativity. Or less opportunity to hone their intelligence.

I think your problem is that you assume women are less then men and get mad when proven wrong because women are not less then men.

Ami Angelwings
9 years ago

@Laura Bladen Ami is always rite! 😀

Albert
Albert
9 years ago

Feminism has deluded many women into believing they are superior God-like beings. When they’re proven wrong, they get defensive, like this blog clearly illustrates.

Bee
Bee
9 years ago

Exactly, Albert. And whenever you have something really, really important to say, like that, just make sure to find an old, dead comment thread so you can whisper it under your breath and then run off to wherever it is you normally stay feeling like a big cool guy for Taking A Stand!!!!

Clearly you understand feminism very well. No need to act all embarrassed about it, Albert.

Johnny Pez
9 years ago

I personally want to thank Albert for having the courage to come onto a feminist blog that specializes in mocking anti-feminists and speaking his mind. I guess this proves that anti-feminists aren’t a bunch of whiny-ass titty babies after all.

Linn
Linn
9 years ago

I know I’m way late to this, but I’m overwhelmed by the compulsion to remark how much that entire ‘dudes-making-dude-babies-without-the-envolvement-of-any-filthy-honorless-wimmins’ idea reminds me of oglaf’s hilarious hypermasculine-vikings storyline, especially “Son of Kronar”
http://oglaf.com/son-of-kronar/ (Not QUITE safe for work).
That right there would be the ideal, I wager.

Linn
Linn
9 years ago

… aaand that would be ‘INvolvement’, although, come to think of it..

Pecunium
9 years ago

Albert: I missed this: Feminism has deluded many women into believing they are superior God-like beings. When they’re proven wrong, they get defensive, like this blog clearly illustrates.

Which is why you came in two weeks after the conversation was quiet to make your bold statement. A statement which could have been made about any post here; as it lacks any content other than, “feminists are whiners, and wrong.”

So… way to go. Manly men ought to emulate you, and slink into feminist enclaves where they can whisper in the corner and count coup for the bravery of walking into the mouth of hell and coming out with their balls unsinged, and their peckers still attached.

You are an exemplar in the MRA movement.

hatestupidpeople
hatestupidpeople
8 years ago

trying to make you king over ‘YOUR” “children” making them submit to you?????

MKlein
MKlein
8 years ago

But i don’t understand: how would an artificial womb make women obsolete? You’d still need a woman’s eggs and DNA, or at least an X chromosome, to cause the fertilized egg cell to become an embryo. At least one X chromosome is necessary for human life, in both men and women.

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