Ladies and Gentlemen, I present to you the most odious misogynist bullshit I have seen thus far on the topic of the Slutwalks: a post on The Third Edge of the Sword, a blog that seems to go out of its way to be offensive and “edgy,” that takes victim blaming to a whole new level. Here’s the basic, er, argument of the post, which the author has put in giant pink letters so we won’t miss it:
Every woman marching in the Edmonton Slut Walk is publicly declaring herself a slut. This means every woman there desires sex with any and all partners. Any sexual activity you initiate with them comes with implied consent. They cannot say no, and if they do understand all their ‘no’s mean yes. They are all asking for it. They want it bad. Now. From you. Go get ’em!
Some other highlights:
[I]f you … dress slutty, men are going to stare at you. We’re going to catcall. We are going to tell you all sorts of sexual things we want to do to your body. And if you dress slutty and wave your ass in our face, we will do them. The organizers of this event are not oblivious to this point: what they want is a fake sexual revolution. They want to be able to impersonate sluts without actually being sluts, and that’s unacceptable. If you don’t want to be treated as a piece of meat, don’t marinate and grill yourself and sit perched on a piece of garlic toast. You dress slutty, you show off the goods, you try to get a reaction, you will get one. Hint: it’s not always going to be the one you want. …
The “reaction” he has in mind is rape. By calling rape a “reaction” instead of what it is — a criminal assault on someone, an act of sexual violence, a violation — he of course is attempting to switch the blame to the victim. He spells out his “logic” in more detail:
[W]hen you impersonate a slut we don’t fine you, and we don’t throw you in jail. There’s really only one punishment for dressing like a streetwalker when you aren’t one: you do have to endure the occasional rape. You should really suffer it in silence. Accept the character flaw within you that caused this, and move on. Police and court resources are already busy enough with real criminals: like actual rapists who do nasty things to their niece or the homeless native chick passed out under the bridge, or a conservatively dressed urban professional walking to her car, or a girl out jogging in a track suit. To equate the act of actually violating and raping one of these people with having sex with a girl who’s every square millimetre of public persona screams anybody who wants to can screw me right now is ridiculous.
Once again, this brand of misogyny leads to some conclusions that are pretty misandrist – namely, the notion that men are at heart rapists who can’t control their violent urges:
If you go out on the street in an outfit that would make Britney Spears feel uncomfortable, you do so knowing that your ultimate aim is to make men want you. Well, they want you now. Congrats. Oh, wait, you mean you didn’t understand what that implied? That in the great Bell curve of sexual congress you’ve just pushed everybody on the right-hand side of the -2 std devs line past that imaginary barrier that says “there is no power in the universe powerful enough to stop me from sliding my finger inside your panties”? I call bullshit. You do know. But you want to be a virginal slut, to dress in ways that makes men helpless to their urges but still leaves you fully in restrictive control.
The blogger concludes by arguing that the Slutwalkers are all “lying bitches” because they dress like they wasn’t to be raped, but do not actually want to be raped. Then he makes this lovely suggestion:
If your wife is one of them, I’m very very sorry. Maybe a good rape might make her a little more manageable around the house.
Now this post is an atmittedly extreme example of a misogynistic response to the Slutwalks. But the basic “logic” of this blogger’s would-be argument is essentially identical to that of many MRA and other “manosphere” pieces I’ve seen on the subject, the main difference between them being that this guy embraces the logical conclusion of his argument — that Slutwalkers deserve to be raped — while the MRAs who make essentially the same argument (and fling the same sorts of insults at the Slutwalkers) make a show of saying that they don’t really think the Slutwalkers “deserve” it. And maybe they’ve convinced themselves that this caveat means something . But in that case the extreme reaction that manosphere misogynists have had to the Slutwalks – the insults thrown at the Slutwalkers, the “jokey” references to rape, the prurient sneering – makes little sense. If you argue that women are “asking for it” when they dress like “sluts,” you’re essentially saying they deserve it. You’re making the same argument this guy is making, but pretending you aren’t.
NOTE: The graphic above is taken from the official web site for the Edmonton SlutWalk 2011, which took place a week ago. Here are some pictures of the march.
Once again, take a big ole bag of cash put it in a clear plastic bag and strut around a really poor section of town and really flaunt it. Shove it in their faces. Tease them with it, cause ya know they want it then laugh at them and take it away. Sooner or later you’re going to get robbed and anyone who says they don’t deserve to get robbed is a liar.
All of you women claim to dress up sexy (with as little as possible) cause it makes you “feel” good. That’d be your base animal instinct to attract men which fulfills that part of your sexuality. So what you want is to be praised for being unable/unwilling to control your sexuality while wanting men to be in complete control of their sexuality.
Womens lack of self control will naturally cause sexual dysfunction/frustration in young boys entering puberty, when women walk around like this http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-qP8D4HxpSMQ/SG7WY07ItYI/AAAAAAAABR4/loZ9jYtWsfI/s1600/bikini1.jpg or perhaps a few more square inches of material. But of course you don’t care about men/boys what so ever. Women like it even when they torment young boys, it’s funny. They like not having any self control and being praised for their lack of self control. Women (mothers) will tell the young boys to cover and hide their evil sexuality while at the same time tell young girls to flaunt their’s.
Now if men would walk around like this and chat up young girls entering puberty would feminists come running to defend mens right to flaunt their sexuality? Not likely. They’d be calling them perverts for trying to sexually excite young girls while once again proclaiming young girls “right” to dress and act anyway they want. Apparently the motto is every woman/girl owns her sexuality and can do whatever she wants while mens sexuality must be controlled.
A point on a previous thread about pedophiles I made I need to know your logic behind your responses. I stated NAMBLA and butterfly kisses, (two sides of the same coin, pro pedophelia). Now these groups of vile people are gay/lesbian, they proclaim it from the highest mountains, go to all the parades, ect. ect. I also stated men who diddle little boys and women who diddle little girls are either LG or B. Yet somehow I’m wrong and various links were provided which somehow “proved” these vile creatures were hetrosexual. Now all links aside, it doesn’t take a five star genius to figure out if a grown man likes little boys or a grown woman like little girls, not only are they sick but are either proud LGBs or swing that way. Use a little common sense. I know you love your faction but c’mon.
Capt B-robe, you don’t speak for anyone calling himself a man. You’re a feminist. Kinda says it all.
You know, if men are so helpless to resist when they see something that makes them get a boner… how come there’s not an epidemic of man on man rape?
I mean, I know why not- it’s because men aren’t helpless slaves to the little head.
But by this blogger’s (ahem) logic wearing something that a man finds arousing is an invitation to all comers., so to speak. And there are men out there who find tight jeans and tee shirts really really hot on other guys. So, aren’t the guys wearing those things just asking for it?
“Your honor, it’s not my fault! He was wearing a muscle shirt! And he has those really hot tattoos just showing- you know he wanted it!” “Well, in that case- all charges are hereby dropped. And as for you, young man, let that be a lesson to you. Going out late at night and drinking dressed in such scandalous clothes, what did you think would happen?”
Oh wait- only straight men are incapable of restraining themselves?
Please note- I am not saying all men are rapists or all straight men are rapists or all gay men or whatever. I’m pointing out that the blogger David quoted seems to believe it. Which suggests to me he kind of hates men almost as much as he hates women. Ugh.
@NWO
“Yet somehow I’m wrong and various links were provided which somehow “proved” these vile creatures were hetrosexual. Now all links aside, it doesn’t take a five star genius to figure out if a grown man likes little boys or a grown woman like little girls, not only are they sick but are either proud LGBs or swing that way. Use a little common sense. I know you love your faction but c’mon.”
No, links were provided to prove that orientation and pedophelia are unrelated! Some abusers are gay, some are straight, and what orientation they are doesn’t predict which gender of child they like to abuse! You are being incredibly dense right now…
Apparently my XXL male hoodie that goes down to my knees is now apparently a giant bag of money xD OOOKAAAYYYY XDDD
I also love how apparently boys never encounter scantily clad women or our bodies in comic books, tv and movies, posters or porn they sneak xD But me walking outside, BOOM… OMG AMIGEDDON!!!!!
Ami Angelwings: destroying young male minds since One Million Years BC xD
So, that thing that David and other people were saying before, about this Third Edge moron’s position being extreme, but really, when you look at what other MRAs are saying, not all that extreme after all?
Thanks for being our real-life on-site example, Slaver!
I don’t really know what to say to someone who doesn’t understand that one can own one’s sexuality without raping other people. Or that people who fuck little children are pedophiles. You get grosser and grosser, Slaver.
I’ve never seen an MRA make the logical corollary to this argument: if a gay man sees a straight man walking down the street, and decides that the straight man is dressed slutty, then the straight man must be asking to be raped by the gay man, and therefore deserves to be raped by the gay man.
The logic seems pretty straightforward to me.
@NWO Theft is a crime, regardless of where the victim stored their cash. The people who stole it are still thieves, and will still be prosecuted as such. Now, by all means, please go ahead and explain to us how walking around with all that soft, unarmored flesh is an invitation to be stabbed to death.
Need to know… I know women are so helpless to resist their base animal instincts they get it in lather when they get attention from men for wearing very little clothing. They then get drunk and after they having consensual sex suddenly have an attack of morality, and cry date rape.
Kirbywarp…You’re in denial. The majority of pedophile crime is same sex which is done by the minority (LGB) of the population. The percent of same sex pedophilia is 80% and at the most LGB makes up 5% of the population. Which means a child is 76 times as likely to sexually abused in an all gay community as an all straight community. Do the math.
o_O
I have base animal instincts? o_O Interreessstttinnngggg…
WITH THE SEDUCTION OF A KITTY!!!
RAWRRRR!!!!
I prefer my acidic plant instincts! *flings acid everywhere*
MUHAHAHAHAHAHA XDDD
@NWO:
I’m going to say this one more time, to see if I can reach you. SAME SEX PEDOPHILIA IS NOT HOMOSEXUALITY! The two are vastly different phenomena. I honestly don’t know how to put it any simpler for you.
As usual Ami you pointlessly yammer incoherently.
And yet you understood it XD
I’m not even going to bother with the pretty pictures for this one. This shit is just too vile.
I’m asking a serious question here: have you ever, personally, raped anyone? I’m genuinely curious, you malignant tumour on the ass-cheek of humanity.
Ami Angelwings: Putting Trolls On Tilt since 2007 XDDDD
Im going to say this one more time kirbywarp. Yes it is. Holy shit dude, snap out of your leftist love of gayness. Everyone in NAMBLA and butterfly kisses is gayyyyyyyyyyyyy. They admit it, are proud of it and love it. They also openly profess wanting to legalize pedophelia. They use the same backward logic you’re using. They say all us bad straight folks want to deny children their loooooooove. They say were denying the fact that children are sexual and all us bad straight folks are denying their sexuality. They say children own their sexuality. Sound familiar?
Slaver, any research on pedophilia will show that pedophiles can’t properly be labeled homosexual or heterosexual because they’re sexually attracted to children, not adults. Some research even points to a child’s availability as determinant, not the child’s sex.
I know that insisting on things that have been successfully proved wrong is kinda your “thing” — I just like to add a bit of reality to the conversation.
Children cannot consent to sex, you fuck! Adults can!
What about that is so difficult to understand, you festering pile of guano‽
No spearhafoc. I’ll ask you a serious question. Have you ever raped any little boys/girls?
The answer to your question, Spear, is “It doesn’t count as rape because she was asking for it.”
No. Neither do I go around claiming it’s perfectly all right to.
Of course they can’t searhafoc you filthy pile of putrid vomit. I’m against that are you? Doesn’t sound like it to me.
I’m the one whose against it you vile piece of filth. How about you?
XD
I think the more pertinent question is first if NWO agrees w/ what was in the OP xD
Also we’re ALL against it, just some of us aren’t missing the target 400 feet wide, and NWO is xD (tho I’m sure he thinks it’s the opposite XDD he sees DA TROOF!!!)