The Men’s Rights subreddit on Reddit is awash in mini-manifestos. My favorite of the most recent batch, a rousing 3-part rant running under the title “Do not fear them!”
Who is “them,” you ask?
Women who might just decide that they don’t really want to have sex with some dude who keeps going on about how men are the most oppressed group in the world.
Responding, apparently, to a comment in an earlier thread suggesting “that being publicly vocal about the way men’s rights are trampled on and ignored is a great way to lose the opportunity of getting laid,” manifesto writer Kuppers argues that it just ain’t so — but when it is, just bite your tongue for as long as it takes to get into her pants.
He starts off with a strange variant on the notion that there are plenty of fish in the sea. If you feel that women won’t want to have sex with your Men’s-Rights-espousing self, Kuppers suggests, it’s
because your brain was conditioned in a small communal/tribal setting. A group of angry women was a serious threat to your prospects of reproduction. As you know, women often act like herd animals, and view acceptance and appreciation from their peers of their choice of man to be important. This is completely moot today. There are millions of fish in the sea.
Aside from that final truism I have no fucking idea what he’s talking about. I don’t recall growing up in anything that might possibly be considered – literally or figuratively – a “tribal setting” ruled over by a group – sorry, a herd – of “angry women” hell-bent on keeping me from reproducing. Is this a common experience? Also, I have precisely zero interest in “reproduction.” Indeed, I sort of make it a policy to only have sex with women who are at least as interested in preventing reproduction as I am.
On to point two in this curious document, which is that ladies love dudes with strong opinions:
Women, while they do not always explicitly say so and sometimes contradict so, sincerely do appreciate a man who has strong internal beliefs and principles, and does not compromise that for the sake of assuaging someone else’s sensitivities, including theirs. A man who is willing to pretend he is something he is not, isn’t attractive on a deep masculine level to women.
True, up to a point, but you might want to keep all that shit about women being angry reproduction-threatening herd animals to yourself. That might not go over so well on your first Starbucks coffee date. Or ever. Protip: Misogyny aside, very few people want to get with people who refer to sex as “reproduction.”
But if your desire for sex outweighs your manly desire to be truthful about your obnoxious beliefs, well, that’s all good too – if by “all good” you mean “you can still have angry sex with women you despise if you just keep your pie hole shut for a few hours.” Or, as Kuppers puts it in his third and final point, which he apparently doesn’t realize completely contradicts point number two:
The kind of woman who a) wants you to be subordinate to her crazy foaming feminist nonsense, and b) has no tolerance or patience for your concerns, is not worth anything more than a cheap, well-protected fuck anyway. Fine, keep your mouth shut for the couple of hours it takes to get her into bed, but you’d be mad to pursue anything more serious with a woman like that.
Men’s Rightsers – such romantics at heart!
People like Sally keep calling me a woman-hater despite the fact that my arguments indicate, and I’ve explicitly stated multiple times, that I do not have a blanket hatred for women as a gender. Learn to fucking read.
… Yeah… ‘intellectual conversation’ usually entails GAINING KNOWLEDGE AND INSIGHT and improving one’s self with it. All deep and brainy-like. I love that shit! 😀
If that’s not happening, you’re doin’ it wrong.
Back to ignorant square one for you, dood…
that I do not have a blanket hatred for women as a gender
“I don’t hate women, it’s just that so many of them are bitches who won’t even say hi to me; and fat women are disgusting and barely human and don’t deserve to be loved!”
She is a plus sized model-in other words, she is your dreaded fat chick. Wears a size sixteen.
This was a little lesson in how your hatred for fat chicks is illogical-you actually like them when no one tells you their BMI. Of course she should have a plate of bacon but cannot please everyone.
Can you honestly say that you wouldn’t like to hypothetically slap some asshole who deserves it? There are feminists expressing this very desire in regards to groping perverts. It’s not an unusual thing. Come on.
How about ‘tragic, ignorant moron’? The hating women thing must be residual… lol
Poster, ok, she’s gross in the other pictures you linked to.
People like Sally keep calling me a woman-hater despite the fact that my arguments indicate, and I’ve explicitly stated multiple times, that I do not have a blanket hatred for women as a gender.
“I’m not a racist, I just think black people are inherently less intelligent, lazier, and more violent than white people!”
The sum total of your words outweighs the labels you assign to yourself. If you truly think that hating all women is not a thing to be proud of, then how about acting that way?
Some stranger gropes me, all bets are OFF. They WILL pay for it. I like to think that suffering injuries would eventually deter gropers from doing it again to other women… but I sincerely doubt they learn a fucking thing.
As is kind of proven in these comment threads…
Too late MRAL. You learned the truth and are trying to backtrack from acknowledging that fat chicks can be pretty. We see right through you.
“I don’t hate women, it’s just that so many of them are bitches who won’t even say hi to me”
Yeah, that’s basically true. What’s the problem?
Also- I’ve been thinking the past few days and I might be willing to admit that- PERHAPS- I’ve been a bit too tough on fat women. I’ve been rethinking JUST a bit after doing some research into the high variability on metabolic rates. Plus, I suppose, we all have vices. I still am not attracted to fat women but looking back I’ve been a bit cruel. A few minutes ago, I included “fat chicks” in the list of women I disliked- that was a mistake, force of habit. So no, fat women are not included in my hatred anymore.
Can you honestly say that you wouldn’t like to hypothetically slap some asshole who deserves it? There are feminists expressing this very desire in regards to groping perverts.
Right, except that the women here are talking about responding to an ASSAULT.
You are talking about responding to a LACK OF INTERACTION.
Twisted little woman-hater.
Oh and everyone else-that is NSFW Italian Vogue but the photos are pretty artistic.
Can you honestly say that you wouldn’t like to hypothetically slap some asshole who deserves it
Not really, no. I think the last violent urge I felt was towards a video game character (fuck you, Roy Earle. Fuck you).
Did you know that domestic abusers consistently overestimate the actual, nationwide occurrence of domestic abuse? They believe that the violence which they engage in is more normal and prevalent than it actually is, and they see other people as being more violent than they actually are.
Chew on that the next time you want to say that people have violent tendencies overall.
I’ve been a bit cruel.
Is it too early to start nominations for “Understatement of the 21st Century”?
MRAL is back! I’m sure this whiny scrub is here to thoroughly tell us all about how hard his life is.
Didn’t a military veteran resoundingly call you out a couple days ago on how pathetic you are?
@personpants who keeps running from my questions xD
Second verse same as the first. xD
I dunno what your definition of intellectual is xD Cuz you haven’t rly said v much… you’ve mostly just been making general statements that you can’t back up when asked, and when asked to be specific you admitted that you actually can’t apply your theories xD Like ppl talk to you and tell you their exps, and you just dismiss it as lies, when asked about how you know, and other details, you dun answer xD But as you say you enjoy conversation, I would suggest going back and answering and explaining your theories 🙂 Also Pecunium said a lot to you and you kinda tapped 2 islands and phased out xD Given how patient and open he’s been w/ you… so much for enjoying intellectual conversation xD
AARRRRLLLSSSOOOO Have you thought nething about what David has said btw? 😮 I hope you have and it has at least given you some hope and something to think about 🙂
You guys should know that I couldn’t give a shit when you call me unsubstantiated names likes “woman-hater” and “misogynist” despite my very clear assertions that I am neither. Food for the brain.
“I don’t hate women, it’s just that so many of them are bitches who won’t even say hi to me”
Yeah, that’s basically true. What’s the problem?
That’s basically misogyny, dude.
Also- I’ve been thinking the past few days and I might be willing to admit that- PERHAPS- I’ve been a bit too tough on fat women.
Translation: Someone gave me fat chick photos I want to wank to.
‘I’ve been rethinking JUST a bit”…
Don’t hurt yourself, kid.
Okay, look, every time I make a post 50 people rush to respond and tell me what a loser I am. I read them all, but I can’t respond to everyone individually. Jesus. They also tend to follow a similar tune, so I make general responses. It’s not like I don’t consider everything.
Poster, you’re a fucking idiot.
@MRAL Can you please define “that deserves it”? 🙂 What actions (specific actions) would a woman do that you think deserves to be assaulted. Let’s start with slapped.
What specific actions would a woman have to do to you that you think she deserves to be slapped for?
Sigh, still not a guy.