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Fear and loathing on a date

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The Men’s Rights subreddit on Reddit is awash in mini-manifestos. My favorite of the most recent batch, a rousing 3-part rant running under the title “Do not fear them!” 

Who is “them,” you ask?

Women who might just decide that they don’t really want to have sex with some dude who keeps going on about how men are the most oppressed group in the world.

Responding, apparently, to a comment in an earlier thread suggesting “that being publicly vocal about the way men’s rights are trampled on and ignored is a great way to lose the opportunity of getting laid,” manifesto writer Kuppers argues that it just ain’t so —  but when it is, just bite your tongue for as long as it takes to get into her pants.

He starts off with a strange variant on the notion that there are plenty of fish in the sea. If you feel that women won’t want to have sex with your Men’s-Rights-espousing self, Kuppers suggests,  it’s

because your brain was conditioned in a small communal/tribal setting. A group of angry women was a serious threat to your prospects of reproduction. As you know, women often act like herd animals, and view acceptance and appreciation from their peers of their choice of man to be important. This is completely moot today. There are millions of fish in the sea.

Aside from that final truism I have no fucking idea what he’s talking about.  I don’t recall growing up in anything that might possibly be considered – literally or figuratively – a “tribal setting” ruled over by a group – sorry, a herd – of “angry women” hell-bent on keeping me from reproducing.  Is this a common experience? Also, I have precisely zero interest in “reproduction.”  Indeed, I sort of make it a policy to only have sex with women who are at least as interested in preventing reproduction as I am.

On to point two in this curious document, which is that ladies love dudes with strong opinions:

Women, while they do not always explicitly say so and sometimes contradict so, sincerely do appreciate a man who has strong internal beliefs and principles, and does not compromise that for the sake of assuaging someone else’s sensitivities, including theirs. A man who is willing to pretend he is something he is not, isn’t attractive on a deep masculine level to women.

True, up to a point, but you might want to keep all that shit about women being angry reproduction-threatening herd animals to yourself. That might not go over so well on your first Starbucks coffee date. Or ever. Protip: Misogyny aside, very few people want to get with people who refer to sex as “reproduction.”

But if your desire for sex outweighs your manly desire to be truthful about your obnoxious beliefs, well, that’s all good too – if by “all good” you mean “you can still have angry sex with women you despise if you just keep your pie hole shut for a few hours.” Or, as Kuppers puts it in his third and final point, which he apparently doesn’t realize completely contradicts point number two:

The kind of woman who a) wants you to be subordinate to her crazy foaming feminist nonsense, and b) has no tolerance or patience for your concerns, is not worth anything more than a cheap, well-protected fuck anyway. Fine, keep your mouth shut for the couple of hours it takes to get her into bed, but you’d be mad to pursue anything more serious with a woman like that.

Men’s Rightsers – such romantics at heart!

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SallyStrange
SallyStrange
9 years ago

I don’t like fucking people who hate me. Call me crazy.

zombie rotten mcdonald

As you know, women often act like herd animals

Wow. that is… wow.

Go To
Go To
9 years ago

“As you know, women often act like herd animals

Wow. that is… wow.”

No its true, look at the media and how women take it so seriously. Look at the huge advertising industry that has built up around women and uses group psychology. Look at all the feminists complaining about how women are helpless to the media, look at womens social behavior, who is more likely to subscribe to religions, and quasi-religions..

We are all herd animals, social psychology tells us that, but its more present in women.

katz
9 years ago

Geez, we’re not a herd, we’re a pack. There’s a difference.

Amnesia
Amnesia
9 years ago

“… women often act like herd animals…”

If you make loud enough noises we’ll stampede and grind men underfoot? Why would you ever desire to have sex with creatures like that?

Sarah
Sarah
9 years ago

Yeah, I agree with Sally. I really, really don’t understand the concept of hatesex. Likesex is so much more awesomer!

hellkell
hellkell
9 years ago

Damn, if you hate women that much, it would be far more honest to just pay for it and get your rocks off than to have sex with someone you hate just to get laid.

redlocker
redlocker
9 years ago

When MRA’s/PUA’s express their hatred of women by calling them “insecure lizard brained sex addicts” or some equivalent…they act just as lizard brained, if not more, by conducting entire conversations around having sex with women.

It’s like seeing a Stormfront member listen to Jazz music.

Fatman
Fatman
9 years ago

What I have never understood about this sort of thing is how a man maintains the necessary interest, euphemistically speaking, to engage in the only kind of sex that MRAs consider sex, when that man hates his partner.

amandajane5
amandajane5
9 years ago

Women, while they do not always explicitly say so and sometimes contradict so

Women, who have never actually said this and when I claim they said this tell me that I’m lying….

I mean, what? I wouldn’t ever claim to speak for all women, but some dude can speak for all women even while recognizing that when he expresses his opinions to actual women they disagree with him?

Lady Victoria von Syrus
Lady Victoria von Syrus
9 years ago

And the MRAs wonder why, when they can actually get sex, their chief complaint is that ‘she just lies there and doesn’t do anything.’

Shaenon
9 years ago

Sure, women are social animals, at least to the same extent men are. Yes, men and women are the same species of animal, just different sexes! Amazing! And, yeah, if you get a reputation for being a dick to women, women will probably tell each other to avoid you, and it will be harder to get dates. So good work, angry misogynist dude, for accurately identifying how humans work!

I’m not sure how he leaps from this to “but if I keep acting like a dick long enough, eventually all the women avoiding me will suddenly realize I’m awesome,” but it seems to be a common fantasy in MRA circles. Beats having to think of a new approach, I guess.

filetofswedishfish
filetofswedishfish
9 years ago

The kind of woman who a) wants you to be subordinate to her crazy foaming feminist nonsense, and b) has no tolerance or patience for your concerns, is not worth anything more than a cheap, well-protected fuck anyway. Fine, keep your mouth shut for the couple of hours it takes to get her into bed, but you’d be mad to pursue anything more serious with a woman like that.

(I think I did the HTML right)

The kind of man who a) wants you to be subordinate to his crazy foaming misogynist, men’s oppression nonsense, and b) has no tolerance or patience for your concerns, is not worth anything more than a cheap spitoon, or the energy it takes to ignore him. Fine, keep your mouth shut for the couple of hours it takes to get him to leave you the hell alone, but you’d be mad to pursue anything with a man like that

I fixed it.

Bee
Bee
9 years ago

Amnesia: If you make loud enough noises we’ll stampede and grind men underfoot? Why would you ever desire to have sex with creatures like that?

For advanced Manboobzers, more “fun” can be had at MarkyMark’s Thought’sv (or, as I say, “Thoughts”), where he compares women to young fillies, in that, yanno … they’re easily spooked, prone to foundering, and pretty to look at, but you wouldn’t want to marry one! Brofive!

I’m surprised he didn’t work a Sarah Jessica Parker Joke in there. Protip: I may bite, and I have a mean back kick.

Plymouth
Plymouth
9 years ago

“Sincerity – if you can fake that, you’ve got it made.”
— George Burns

Ami Angelwings
9 years ago

I’m always confused by dating advice or the complaints in our social narratives in TV shows, or like how a lot of ppl seem to think relationships and marriage should be (like in jokes, or how it’s like this social bonding thing where everybody is to joke about what a tyrant their wife is or what a bore their husband is? o_O or something? ) Why not just date people you get along w/? : Rather than complaining that the women you date like opera when you like sports, and you two have NOTHING in common, or vice versa.. or try to speculate on how to get into the pants of XYZ woman who wouldn’t agree with the philosophy that’s rly important to your life, why not just date like minded ppl? 😮 (I’m also confused by whether all women are ball busting feminists, or all women are anti-feminists and only the fat ugly ones are feminists… cuz it feels like the narrative keeps changing on that xD )

If you don’t want to date a dominant personality woman, then don’t. o_O I dun see the big deal xD Treating dating like a chore and over-thinking it like you’re Bill Belichik is kind of a hint that you might want to move on to one of the other fish in the sea wouldn’t it? 😮

Also I’m a little confused about the reproduction thing. o_O Does he want SEX or does he want to just impregnate women? o_O

Why would gangs of angry anti-male women (who presumably would not have kids themselves) running around discouraging other people from having kids be an evolutionarily fit trait? o_O (much less how they pass on their genes xD )

trianglethief
trianglethief
9 years ago

“..view acceptance and appreciation from their peers.. to be important..”

Dudes, as well we know, fucking hate that shit. The LAST THING a man – particularly a man of the MRA persuasion – wants, is acceptance or appreciation. Not from other dudes, and most certainly not from the herds of roaming ladiebeests. Who are all massive bitches for their insufficient amounts of acceptance and appreciation of MRA dudes.

At least, I think that’s what he’s saying.

Ami Angelwings
9 years ago

As you know, women often act like herd animals, and view acceptance and appreciation from their peers of their choice of man to be important.

I actually like this idea. xD From now on everybody here must bring in their husband and boyfriends to this forum for Supreme-Court judge like grilling, inspections and scientific experimentation :3

Each of us can be like a trial guardian… and he must pass thru us all (in some order) before he can be approved xD

I am the angel guardian of cats, hope and justice! 😀 You must prove that you have all 3 in your heart in order to pass. >:3

Dire Sloth
Dire Sloth
9 years ago

I can do hope and justice, but how do I get a cat in my heart? Do I have to get one really fat, and then eat it so it clogs up my arteries?

darksidecat
darksidecat
9 years ago

@Ami, justice or Justice? Because if he’s Anders, we’ll probably forgive him even for his borderline terrorist rebellion activities. Anders even gets extra points for his extreme devotion to cats, most particularly Ser Pounce-a-lot.

evilwhitemalempire
evilwhitemalempire
9 years ago

“Damn, if you hate women that much, it would be far more honest to just pay for it and get your rocks off than to have sex with someone you hate just to get laid.”
Prostitution is illegal most everywhere moron.
First wavers saw to that.

“I wouldn’t ever claim to speak for all women”
If you’re a feminist then you’re a liar. Feminists have ALWAYS claimed to speak for all women.

“And the MRAs wonder why, when they can actually get sex, their chief complaint is that ‘she just lies there and doesn’t do anything.’”
Inconsistent with the notion that creeps just want to drug up females and enjoy the ‘control’.

PosterformerlyknownasElizabeth
PosterformerlyknownasElizabeth
9 years ago

It was not just the first wavers who saw to it EW.

More than one jackass male in a pulpit denounced human sexuality because he thought girls were icky and led the way to outlaw prostitution.

Which I think is a perfectly acceptable thing as long as it is not being exploitative of either gender. In fact, I think it would help a lot of people out.

Lady Victoria von Syrus
Lady Victoria von Syrus
9 years ago

One Internet to DarkSideCat!

Lady Victoria von Syrus
Lady Victoria von Syrus
9 years ago

I’m all for the legalization and regulation of prostitution, and I bet many clients would also appreciate knowing that the brothel they’re visiting is safe and clean, and the workers are well taken care of.

zombie rotten mcdonald

I actually like this idea. xD From now on everybody here must bring in their husband and boyfriends to this forum for Supreme-Court judge like grilling, inspections and scientific experimentation

Terrible!!

My wife married a ZOMBIE!! How’s she going to fare in that kind of judgement?

zombie rotten mcdonald

I can do hope and justice, but how do I get a cat in my heart?

Imma gonna put one in my stomach, and hope it’s close enough.

zombie rotten mcdonald

Prostitution is illegal most everywhere moron.

yeah, that seems to have stopped it completely.

redlocker
redlocker
9 years ago

Shit, didn’t what Beth suggested occur in “Firefly”? If anything, that’s an awesome scenario, and there was a woman leading the whole thing.

evilwhitemalempire
evilwhitemalempire
9 years ago

“It was not just the first wavers who saw to it EW.
More than one jackass male in a pulpit denounced human sexuality because he thought girls were icky and led the way to outlaw prostitution.
Which I think is a perfectly acceptable thing as long as it is not being exploitative of either gender. In fact, I think it would help a lot of people out.”

So then what do you suppose is the reason for prostitution (the buying end in this case) being outlawed in Sweden? Or the banning of porn in Iceland?
A model feminist state is hardly the place to expect bible thumping jackass dudes to pull much weight.

Shall I tell you what the reason is?
It’s because when females age and start loosing their looks they become jealous of younger, prettier females.
They then do everything in their power to keep men from having sexual access to younger females.
Just as men do everything they can to hamstring other men in their quest for tail so too do women do to other women.
IF you’re one of the young and attractive (I doubt) then you are on the wrong side of the fence.

redlocker
redlocker
9 years ago

Everything’s a power struggle to you, isn’t it, EWME?

hellkell
hellkell
9 years ago

“Prostitution is illegal most everywhere moron.”

That may be, assmunch, but the fact remains that for a lot of your ilk, what’s a little illegality when you can get laid, which just the bare act lone seems to be your reason d’etre?

Wouldn’t the MRAS rather go to a hooker who gets paid to put up with you; no muss, no fuss, none of that icky having to get to know someone?

Or are you just completely cheap?

hellkell
hellkell
9 years ago

EW, re: women losing looks and being jealous, hence controlling the sex supply like some Vagina Cartel, are you fucking serious?

Lady Victoria von Syrus
Lady Victoria von Syrus
9 years ago

Just as men do everything they can to hamstring other men in their quest for tail so too do women do to other women.

Doesn’t the concept of the wingman fly in the face of this assertion?

filetofswedishfish
filetofswedishfish
9 years ago

“Doesn’t the concept of the wingman fly in the face of this assertion?”

Well, LVVS- No doy, men can work together in a team like that. They developed that skill through evolution while hunting mammoths.

Captain Bathrobe
Captain Bathrobe
9 years ago

Man, that Pussy Cartel just has its tentacles in everything, doesn’t it?

Captain Bathrobe
Captain Bathrobe
9 years ago

Everything’s a power struggle to you, isn’t it, EWME?

He operates on the assumption that everyone is just as depraved as he is.

Tabby Lavalamp
Tabby Lavalamp
9 years ago

Evil White Mal Empire, those are some interesting assertions you’re making regarding when prostitution has been criminalized, why for different jurisdictions why it’s been criminalized. I’m sure you have proper scholarly links to back up these assertions, correct?

I’m also sure you have the scholarly research to prove that human trafficking and the exploitation of poor women doesn’t happen, or that it does and the only reason feminists could possibly be against prostitution is that we’re jealous that we’re not being trafficked and exploited.

It’s a sad, sick little delusional world you live in. That much anger and hatred couldn’t possibly be good for you.

amandajane5
amandajane5
9 years ago

“I wouldn’t ever claim to speak for all women”
If you’re a feminist then you’re a liar. Feminists have ALWAYS claimed to speak for all women.

Really? Citation needed.

I mean, here I am being all feminist and woman-y and refusing to speak for all women. RIGHT HERE IN FRONT OF YOU!

But don’t worry, I’m sure your response will be to call me fat, dikey, and slutty. Live the dream.

Lady Victoria von Syrus
Lady Victoria von Syrus
9 years ago

It’s a terrible world that EWME lives in, where men are continuously hamstringing other men and women are hamstringing other women in order for a chance to have sex with someone they don’t even like very much.

I don’t believe being gay is a choice, but if the world worked the way EWME says it does, I’d give being a lesbian my best shot.

hellkell
hellkell
9 years ago

Captain Bathrobe, you have no idea the power the Pussy Cartel wields. I could tell you, but they’d kick me out and then I’d have to kill ya.

SallyStrange
SallyStrange
9 years ago

“Prostitution is illegal most everywhere moron.” –EW

So are rape and harassment. What’s your point?

But don’t worry, I’m sure your response will be to call me fat, dikey, and slutty. Live the dream. –amandajane5

Ugly. You forgot ugly.

amandajane5
amandajane5
9 years ago

Ugly. You forgot ugly.

And hairy! I must be losing it!

PosterformerlyknownasElizabeth
PosterformerlyknownasElizabeth
9 years ago

EW-you suffer from the same problem that NWOaf suffers from. In this case, you seem to have no clue why pornography is banned in Iceland-the people there do not like exploitation of women. I know, SHOCKING to want to prevent women from being anything more then receptacles of semen. How dare they actually expect to have all women treated with respect and not forced into prostitution.

I bet all the men are miserable and die young. Oh wait, no.

I also noticed you ignored the vast history of men who have tried to ban prostitution because of their own moral views. Because apparently the only people who ever try to ban something like prostitution are women trying to protect other women from being harmed.

Men's Rights Activist Lieutenant
Men's Rights Activist Lieutenant
9 years ago

Jesus Christ, what’s the problem? Men have needs, and if they must be sated with woman who they personally dislike, that is undesirable but better than abstinence. That’s all they’re saying.

Lady Victoria von Syrus
Lady Victoria von Syrus
9 years ago

Men have needs, and if they must be sated with woman who they personally dislike, that is undesirable but better than abstinence.

What about a woman’s need to be treated like an actual person; and her desire to only have sex with people who at least like her & respect her and don’t use her genitals as terms of insult?

And it’s not ‘personally dislike.’ That phrase means that you’ve gotten to know someone one-on-one and have decided that there’s some aspect of their personality that you don’t particularly care for. The correct word you’re looking for, which means ‘disliking an entire gender because of baseless bigotry and stereotypical assumptions’ is misogyny

PosterformerlyknownasElizabeth
PosterformerlyknownasElizabeth
9 years ago

Why would you want to have sex with someone you dislike/hate MRAL? Moreover, why would you lie to just get laid with that person you dislike/hate?

Also, is this woman unattractive to you?

Men's Rights Activist Lieutenant
Men's Rights Activist Lieutenant
9 years ago

wtf? The guy here was clearly talking about women who he personally dislikes, and made no comments about the gender as a whole.

Finally, a woman can choose who she has sex with, that doesn’t mean she gets to control her partner’s private thoughts, much as the feminist thought police would like to believe otherwise.

Men's Rights Activist Lieutenant
Men's Rights Activist Lieutenant
9 years ago

Posterformerly, the physical pleasure, obviously. It’s not ideal but if I was unable to get a relationship with someone I valued, you bet your ass I’d take sex with some idiot over nothing.

Lady Victoria von Syrus
Lady Victoria von Syrus
9 years ago

No, actually, he’s talking about women as a whole, and what a drag it is that you have to actually convince them to have sex with you, and that they might say ‘no’ if they realize what an asshole you are and how much you hate them.

SallyStrange
SallyStrange
9 years ago

If “men have needs,” then they can always masturbate. There’s no need to involve another person in your masturbation. If you’re looking for SEX rather than masturbation then you should have sex with someone you like. Otherwise you’re just treating your sex partner like an extension of your masturbating hand.

Entitlement at its finest: “I want to ejaculate but I’m too lazy to use my own hand, so you better do it for me, even though I despise you.” No thanks.

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