Our friend Trogdor005 has returned with a new manifesto on the greatness of men and the utter suckitude of women. It’s inspiring stuff, rendered extra HEROIC through his use of CAPS, BOLD TEXT, random “quotes” and “italics,” and, from time to time, red lettering.
Trog starts by setting forth a now-familiar thesis: Men do everything, and women are just useless parasites. As he puts it:
Men … are survivors, innovators, explorers, fighters. Most importantly, we men have the ability to ADAPT to changing conditions and environments … something women are incapable of for the most part. …
Take away all the take-out/fast food, automatic cars, cell phones and place one of these self-proclaimed “strong and independent” women out in the wilderness with nothing but the clothes on her back and watch how quickly she starves to death or gets eaten by a bear/lion/tiger/hyena/snake/shark, whichever comes first.
Especially if she’s on her period. Bears love menstrual blood. Sharks, too. Whereas the average man could easily knock a bear out with a swift left hook to the jaw or fend off a shark some sort of clever shark-killing tool he’s managed to fashion out of seaweed, jellyfish and his Speedos. That’s because men are HUNTERS:
[T]he average man is a natural hunter thanks to instincts ingrained in his brain by evolution and (barring injury) can fend for himself. Women on the other hand are PARASITES that depend on, and live almost exclusively off of, MEN for their survival. Even today with all of the technology that we have, women are still COMPLETELY and HOPELESSLY dependent on men.
Trog then provides a long, long list of the things MEN and only MEN do. Some highlights:
– It is MEN that create and service the cars, trucks, and SUVs that women drive to/from work, to/from their “thug” lover’s place, to/from the mall, etc. …
– It is MEN that create and service the computers that women use to hop on Slut-book/MySpace and do their attention whoring.
– It is MEN that build and assemble the couches, sofas, recliners, and other furniture than women use to sit on their fat asses watching shows like “Oprah”. …
– It is MEN that toil and sweat in the fields in scorching temperatures, collecting the raw vegetables/fruits that are then shipped to the grocery stores that women visit.
– It is MEN that work in dangerous unsanitory conditions inside the meat/butcher plants to provide safe meats to the fast-food/take out chains that women frequent.
– It is MEN in the form of police, security guards, and soldiers that provide women with a “safe atmosphere” in which they can walk around freely at night.
– It is MEN in sweat shops halfway across the world, working in some cases for nothing but a meal, that produce the “designer clothes” women buy and wear.
– It is MEN in semi-trucks that transport all of the goods I just mentioned (except real estate of course) to their intended destination and “keep the machine turning”.
– It is MEN that set up and maintain the necessary electrical, telecommunications, and sewage “grids” that make “civilized life” possible….
– And finally, it is MEN who venture deep into the deadly, hazard prone “diamond mines” located in remote locations to retrieve the raw stones which are necessary for, and later cut to create the shiny looking object that goes in THE RING
The bottom line is, women need men, but men DON’T need women.
So here is a collection of pictures of Women Who Do Not Exist, in the World of Trogdor:
Trogdor follows his list of Things That Only Men Do with another familiar MGTOW fantasy:
And of course, if things go total “Road Warrior” on us and the electrical, financial, and transportation grids finally fail altogether, women will be in an even more untenable position. I suspect they will be getting raped, robbed, and otherwise not be safe in “the streets”. The police will NOT help, let alone “other” men … who will not have forgotten all the abuse these same women imposed on them in years past via “divorce”, “child support”, “false rape accusations”, “sexual harrassment”, and “I cheated on you … I love you _____ but I’m not IN love with you”. Aside from the contempt for/distrust of women that will have been built up over the years in such a scenario, most men will simply be too busy trying to survive to the next day to give a fuck about some “desperate” single mom that comes to their front door begging for food.
Has anyone else noticed just how much MGTOWers love talking about how bad women will have it when The Shit Hits The Fan? How much they enjoy fantasizing about women being robbed and raped in a lawless world? How much Trogdor seems to relish the notion of single mothers (and presumably their kids) starving to death?
Trogdor continues on, suggesting that our future looks a lot like “any African country where lawlessness reigns.” Naturally, he manages to throw in yet another reference to women “in constant fear of being raped or robbed every time they are walking thru the streets.”
He ends with this happy picture of the End Times:
The smart men will expat before shit hits the fan and watch the entire debaucle from a safe distance. The “thugs” will not go anywhere and will simply rob the women to deal with their “food shortage” issues. The manginas will cower in the corner like pussies … unable to grasp reality, and will also be robbed of their food, water, and possessions by the “thugs” and “bad boys”. The real losers will be women in the end (as it always is following these “Feminist” periods of history … look what happened to women in Babylon, Greece, Egypt, Rome, etc), I suspect many of them will be reduced to fucking for food. …
I’m not really quite sure I’m willing to accept the dire prognostications of someone who can’t spell the word “debacle.”
EMASCULATE! EMASCULAAATTTEEEE!!!!!
@Stanley, I’m not sure what business you’re in, or where you get your “80-90% of market space is devoted to women” statistic from, but I took several classes on advertising as part of a degree in graphic design, and I can say with some confidence that the absolute most coveted demographic for basically any consumer item is Male 18-25. Also, your statement that women are never innovators is a tremendously universalist that would not stand up to even cursory scrutiny, if you weren’t so convinced of how correct you are otherwise.
I *love* the name Dire Sloth xD
@Ami, thanks 😀
Also, right now I’m surfing the web while eating ice cream right out of the carton. I suppose in a post-apocalyptic world I’d instead be scooping the delicious brains of a former foe while commanding the golems I made from harvested uterises (uteri?) to bring me more hapless scavengers for my gladiatorial fights.
I’m just saying that the natural state is for women to have no rights. No one has any rights, but men place themselves on the top of the pile. Men have, through the goodness of their hearts, given women rights, they have not taken them.
What the crippity crap, MRAL? Where was the bright-eyed go-getter we saw a day or so ago? Its true that nobody has any rights, because the universe doesn’t bestow that upon us. Human rights is a concept made up by humans, bestowed by… NO ONE.
The concept of human rights is that of setting some ground rules for how life, all life, should be treated, independant of circumstance. Though you may argue that men came up with the idea (mostly because men were in the position of power to do so), that is irrelavent. Human Rights, once constructed, are bestowed by no one and held by everyone.
The past 100 years or so of feminism has simply been women saying “hey wait a minute, we are humans too! Therefore we should have the same human rights as you men.” The problem is that, since human rights aren’t bestowed upon people by an external source, life still occasionally devolves into a power struggle, which men have been “winning” for a long time. Women’s rights were not given freely of men’s good hearts, they were taken/earned/whatever begrudgingly, and little bits at a time.
I’d love to place Mr. Trogdor005 in the woods naked and see how he does. To make it more interesting, I’d place my college roommate up against him in a contest of ‘who can survive the longest?’ I’m guess the fact that she is a wilderness guide who spends the majority of the year in the desert might help her though.
Also, his grasp of history is poorer than that of the 6 year olds I tutor.
@MRAL It’s when I read statements like this that I wish we could post pictures. Like this one.
“Without men women might very well starve to death. We just don’t know because they have never been “independent” without the support of men or the State”
Men wouldn’t starve though, I was watching something on the history channel the other night about that time when there were no women in the world and men were totally independent and totally didn’t starve to death. It was enlightening.
“they really don’t know how anything works”
You mean many women (and men) neither know nor care about the detailed workings of things that they have no need to know about the detailed workings of I assume? I could give two shits about how my vibrator works so long as it doesn’t stop working.
“Appealing to their tastes and proclivities is not that difficult”
Silly predictable women; mens tastes and proclivities are one of modern times great unsolved mysteries.
“The economy would literally grind to a halt without the voracious level of female consumption of resources”
Stanley makes women sound almost…integral.
I will think of him when I buy sparkly things later.
But MRAL, according to the rules of the world you, being an Omega, would have to be at the bottom of that rights pile right?
At least, that’s what I assume is your position, given all the spit that hits you every day.
Leff-tennant, Omegas have no right to Alpha and Beta women’s attention. Alpha and Beta women, being at the top of the pack, give you attention only out of the goodness of their hearts.
Damn. Too slow.
It’s okay Spear, I’m sure MRAL will go to his wall or tomes were he has inscribed the language of humanity in three towering Greek letters, and tell us all why this isn’t the case.
Stanly: We pretty much ask the same question of everyone who says this kind of thing. Just so you don’t feel left out … when you say this:
“I think much of what David picks up on are expressions of anger and frustration at the current status quo and not the over all MRA message”
can you perhaps provide a link to an MRM group or site that focuses on that important overall message without resorting to expressions of anger and hatred toward women?
Mr. Al: Weren’t we making progress with you on the possibly giving other people a chance front? And now you’re saying that women should have no rights? Man, it’s like we should just give up on you altogether because you’re a big lying troll or something.
But omega is a social construct, just like women’s rights. Society has done me no favors. Naturally, if I do say so myself, I may be an alpha. I’m stronger and smarter than most men, just not as good-looking. This is why I would be better off, relatively speaking, in our natural habitat, in the event of a doomsday event. I still wouldn’t wish that though because I would miss the computer.
I should say this is all theoretical, you know, I don’t ACTUALLY THINK women’s rights should be taken away. Just food for the brain.
@Stanley
90% of posts on these MRA/MGTOW forums and blogs talks of violence against women, killing women, killing ‘manginas’ and just about every other horrible thing you can think of done almost exclusively to women, just because they were born female. You are whack-jobs, plain and simple.
It’s a gargantuan revenge and hate fantasy being acted out in the minds of these *ahem* men.
MGTOW stands for ‘men going their own way’. Well, please go. And buy an artifial womb and a blow-up doll. Please do not dispel your DNA ever. Weeding out psychopaths from the population is needed and MGTOW is a good way to do it. Such a blessing to the rest of us sane people that MGTOW came along.
Objection! Assumes facts not in evidence.
@MRAL
“Naturally, if I do say so myself, I may be an alpha. I’m stronger and smarter than most men, just not as good-looking.”
Funny how the inventors of hierarchy always seem to be at the top..
“This is why I would be better off, relatively speaking, in our natural habitat, in the event of a doomsday event. ”
Our “natural” habitat is a doosday event? Really? Amazing how human-kind seems to flourish in the opposite of its “natural” habitat and, by definition, die off in same.
“I should say this is all theoretical, you know, I don’t ACTUALLY THINK women’s rights should be taken away. Just food for the brain.”
So women don’t ACTUALLY deserve to have their rights taken away, its just that they’re a gift given by man that can just as easily be taken away, amirite?
Man, MRAL, you’ve fallen far in 12 hours…
Talking w/ a friend (who spent a lot of time fishing (I mean GATHERING for her and HUNTING for him), w/ her grandfather on the seas) about how these types of ppl seem so frightened about sharks when there are so many other threats… and for land.. it’s interesting how they’re not afraid of like.. ticks… or rats… or disease, or nething small but rly potential dangerous, but it’s all lions and sharks and manticores and other things that they perceive can be tackled by the manly man that lurks w/n them xD
@RenKiss
“Recently a MRA troll visited my blog, I did a post about how there were cultures where women hunted alongside men, and in some cultures where men play a large role in child-rearing and gathering. Which indicates the “man hunter/woman gatherer” isn’t universally true. He actually had the nerve to say “feminists academics” falsified reports on these cultures.”
Hey, you met Egohan! >.<
Ami: Or moose! Just because they look funny doesn’t mean they aren’t evil, vicious little bastards.
@ozymandias: you mean meese
xD
After camping a lot with my Dad in high school and having known several people with late-diagnosed Lyme’s disease, ticks scare the fuck out of me.
Lotta hatred and poor understanding of reality going on here.
Like Triplanetary, indoctrinated to hate hiw own whiteness, I asume by his cartoon picture.
“Can’t imagine why white first-world men would do that. That’s what subjugation of local populations is for! And that’s another reason Trogdor is full of shit.”
Tell me of the basically four different groups, Asian, Middle Eastern, White and Black, do only “white” people have power? Are only “white” people bad? Are all women of any group “innocent” of an wrong doing? Were you taught that “white” people are bad?
Or perhaps Katz with the old men are bad and women are good mantra.
“-Do men commit the crimes that make law enforcement necessary?” Do women commit crimes? No mention of it, I guess they are always victims.
“-Do men own and operate sweatshops, keeping the wages low and the hours long?” DO women own any? Are women who are married to these evil men exempt? Do they care?
“-Do men, in the apparent name of fiscal responsibility, allow our infrastructure to crumble, creating safety risks and a constant need for expensive, ineffective repairs?” Can women take no responsibility for this?
“-Do men speculate on the diamond market, keeping demand high while artificially restricting supply so that they can make more money off it?” Do women speculate? Do women buy diamonds to adorn themselves or demand engagement rings? Do they care if men and women die to obtain diamonds for themselves?
Maybe Charlottes degredation of her own brother.
“I’m fairly certain that if my brother was ever attacked by a wild beast in the wilderness, his only instinct would be to roll over, play dead, and hope that his attacker would be repelled by the thick layer of hair gel his bonce is constantly coated in before it could do any serious damage.”
Be sure to let him know what you think of him. I’m sure he’ll be overjoyed at your sisterly love.
chocomintlipwax…Another person degrading a brother.
“Furthermore, if you dropped me and my older brother in separate locations deep in the wilderness, I would bet you anything that I would survive longer. He would probably eat the purpleberries, to be honest. (He’s the sort who leaves the toothpick in the sandwich.)”
He too will be overjoyed at your opinion of him, be sure to tell him.
Kirbywarps denial of nature.
“You squishy, modern day man, have no “instincts ingrained… by evolution” because you do not require it. You live in a world where you can enjoy art, literature, and music because your life doesn’t depend on when your next meal comes. And you use accidents of evolution and history to conclude that 50% of the population is nothing more than a worthless parasite, and that if only the world were brought back to the early days (of man and mammoth), that 50% would be put in their place. Do you so spit on that 200,000 years of human history, and use it so flippantly to try to support your modern day bias?”
You’re apparently feel justified calling Modern day men are “squishy” yet you “feel” insulted being called a parasite. Every living thing has a “nature.” Do deer male and female not have a different nature although they are the same species? Don’t all animals of the same species male and female exhibit different qualities as per their nature? Someone will no doubt bring up seahorses being being asexual of a sort, wel thats their nature.
Tin Spiders mockery of Christianity
“In regards to the whole “When the apocalypse comes, you’ll be sorry!” thing. It makes me think of Chick Tracts. Convert to JEE-ZUS-AH or giant winged scorpions will sting you to fuck and back when Revelation hits.”
Why is it OK to mock Christianity? Surely in the spirit of equality there are other faiths you should mock as well. Why is Christianity as the Butt of a joke acceptable while all other are not? Does the mainstream media endorse this?
All I see is hatred and denial. Men do have certain qualities that are good. One of them is the their ability to sacrifice their very lives to save others. Women have this ability as well but men have this in a far greater capicity as all history everywhere bears out. Why not simply acknowlege this and be grateful.
The mainstream media praises women no stop 24/7 as does the State and the education system. Can any of you even remember Fatherhood ever being praise by the media/state? Even the almighty pres says men need to “man up” as fathers. Can anyone point to an article praising men for anything other than dying in “war?” Have men done nothing good?