Our friend Trogdor005 has returned with a new manifesto on the greatness of men and the utter suckitude of women. It’s inspiring stuff, rendered extra HEROIC through his use of CAPS, BOLD TEXT, random “quotes” and “italics,” and, from time to time, red lettering.
Trog starts by setting forth a now-familiar thesis: Men do everything, and women are just useless parasites. As he puts it:
Men … are survivors, innovators, explorers, fighters. Most importantly, we men have the ability to ADAPT to changing conditions and environments … something women are incapable of for the most part. …
Take away all the take-out/fast food, automatic cars, cell phones and place one of these self-proclaimed “strong and independent” women out in the wilderness with nothing but the clothes on her back and watch how quickly she starves to death or gets eaten by a bear/lion/tiger/hyena/snake/shark, whichever comes first.
Especially if she’s on her period. Bears love menstrual blood. Sharks, too. Whereas the average man could easily knock a bear out with a swift left hook to the jaw or fend off a shark some sort of clever shark-killing tool he’s managed to fashion out of seaweed, jellyfish and his Speedos. That’s because men are HUNTERS:
[T]he average man is a natural hunter thanks to instincts ingrained in his brain by evolution and (barring injury) can fend for himself. Women on the other hand are PARASITES that depend on, and live almost exclusively off of, MEN for their survival. Even today with all of the technology that we have, women are still COMPLETELY and HOPELESSLY dependent on men.
Trog then provides a long, long list of the things MEN and only MEN do. Some highlights:
– It is MEN that create and service the cars, trucks, and SUVs that women drive to/from work, to/from their “thug” lover’s place, to/from the mall, etc. …
– It is MEN that create and service the computers that women use to hop on Slut-book/MySpace and do their attention whoring.
– It is MEN that build and assemble the couches, sofas, recliners, and other furniture than women use to sit on their fat asses watching shows like “Oprah”. …
– It is MEN that toil and sweat in the fields in scorching temperatures, collecting the raw vegetables/fruits that are then shipped to the grocery stores that women visit.
– It is MEN that work in dangerous unsanitory conditions inside the meat/butcher plants to provide safe meats to the fast-food/take out chains that women frequent.
– It is MEN in the form of police, security guards, and soldiers that provide women with a “safe atmosphere” in which they can walk around freely at night.
– It is MEN in sweat shops halfway across the world, working in some cases for nothing but a meal, that produce the “designer clothes” women buy and wear.
– It is MEN in semi-trucks that transport all of the goods I just mentioned (except real estate of course) to their intended destination and “keep the machine turning”.
– It is MEN that set up and maintain the necessary electrical, telecommunications, and sewage “grids” that make “civilized life” possible….
– And finally, it is MEN who venture deep into the deadly, hazard prone “diamond mines” located in remote locations to retrieve the raw stones which are necessary for, and later cut to create the shiny looking object that goes in THE RING
The bottom line is, women need men, but men DON’T need women.
So here is a collection of pictures of Women Who Do Not Exist, in the World of Trogdor:
Trogdor follows his list of Things That Only Men Do with another familiar MGTOW fantasy:
And of course, if things go total “Road Warrior” on us and the electrical, financial, and transportation grids finally fail altogether, women will be in an even more untenable position. I suspect they will be getting raped, robbed, and otherwise not be safe in “the streets”. The police will NOT help, let alone “other” men … who will not have forgotten all the abuse these same women imposed on them in years past via “divorce”, “child support”, “false rape accusations”, “sexual harrassment”, and “I cheated on you … I love you _____ but I’m not IN love with you”. Aside from the contempt for/distrust of women that will have been built up over the years in such a scenario, most men will simply be too busy trying to survive to the next day to give a fuck about some “desperate” single mom that comes to their front door begging for food.
Has anyone else noticed just how much MGTOWers love talking about how bad women will have it when The Shit Hits The Fan? How much they enjoy fantasizing about women being robbed and raped in a lawless world? How much Trogdor seems to relish the notion of single mothers (and presumably their kids) starving to death?
Trogdor continues on, suggesting that our future looks a lot like “any African country where lawlessness reigns.” Naturally, he manages to throw in yet another reference to women “in constant fear of being raped or robbed every time they are walking thru the streets.”
He ends with this happy picture of the End Times:
The smart men will expat before shit hits the fan and watch the entire debaucle from a safe distance. The “thugs” will not go anywhere and will simply rob the women to deal with their “food shortage” issues. The manginas will cower in the corner like pussies … unable to grasp reality, and will also be robbed of their food, water, and possessions by the “thugs” and “bad boys”. The real losers will be women in the end (as it always is following these “Feminist” periods of history … look what happened to women in Babylon, Greece, Egypt, Rome, etc), I suspect many of them will be reduced to fucking for food. …
I’m not really quite sure I’m willing to accept the dire prognostications of someone who can’t spell the word “debacle.”
TROGDOR! TROGDOR! Burninating the grocery stores, burninating the wimmenz!
Yet again we see example’s of how the MGTOWer’s will always be just as bad as the Rad Fems when it comes to saying fucked up shit about men hence
The police will NOT help, let alone “other” men … who will not have forgotten all the abuse these same women imposed on them in years past via “divorce”, “child support”, “false rape accusations”, “sexual harrassment”, and “I cheated on you … I love you _____ but I’m not IN love with you”
Seriously he makes men sound like the most small petty, pathetic, asshole losers. Well fuck you Trogdor stop debasing and belittling my gender with your quite frankly disturbing apocalypse fantasy’s.
Also
“It is MEN in sweat shops halfway across the world, working in some cases for nothing but a meal, that produce the “designer clothes” women buy and wear.”
WHAT THE ACTUAL HELL?
The real losers will be women in the end
Why does this come over as ‘nice liberal democracy you have there; shame if anything happened to it’?
To be fair 2020 – spending time on MGOTW forums means that Trogdor consistently surrounds himself with petty, pathetic asshole losers. It is difficult for him and his codependents to perceive that reality is somewhat different when they live in the echo chamber.
Trogdor seems so completely oblivious to reality (as David’s pics so amply illustrate) that I think he must never leave the man-cave he’s created for himself in his parent’s basement.
I hate to disabuse Trogdor of his assumptions but I generally take care of a clogged toilet myself long before a plumber is necessary.
Amazingly enough I – poor benighted female that I am – have mastered the use of a plunger.
Yo Trogdor, bit of a question here. If we were to throw you into the wilderness with nothing but the clothes on your back, how long do you think you’ll last?
As long as I want? Really? Why not go then? It would be the ultimate method of going your own way.
“[T]he average man is a natural hunter thanks to instincts ingrained in his brain by evolution and (barring injury) can fend for himself.”
Heh, just noticed this. Sure, if you aren’t injured, you can do just fine. The rub is that the first time you try to fend for yourself, you’re gonna get injured rather quickly…
The sad thing is, MRAs say they’re “misunderstood” and that people like David “cherry-pick” quotes. Yet these sorts of things are said by most- if not nearly all- MRAs.
They claim not to be “radicals,” like how apparently all feminists are. Yet I see very little hate speech from feminist while every MRA I’ve seen/heard has nothing but misogynistic crap to say. Do they know how ironic they’re being? Even when you try to reason with them and explain that you’re a feminist who does not hate men, they say you’re brainwashed by propaganda or whatever.
I just don’t get MRAs. It’s like they’re all secretly a massive swarm of trolls (which would make a lot of sense).
A perfect example of how MGTOWs never get out of their house, or even absorb any media outside of their MGTOW bubble, apparently. Seriously, turn on any given Discovery Channel doc where they’re showing something being manufactured, and you’ll see plenty of images like the ones in this post. It takes some real ignorance to blithely assume that men do all the productive work.
Wow. Trogdor has a truly impressive ability to keep his head firmly planted up his ass. Amazing!
“It is MEN that toil and sweat in the fields in scorching temperatures, collecting the raw vegetables/fruits that are then shipped to the grocery stores that women visit.”
What, men never go to the grocery store?
I worked on a local vegetable farm for several seasons,
which was definitely hard work, although I really doubt trogdor knows anything about that. so I guess that would make me a former fictional female farm worker. Since I no longer work on a farm, does that mean I’m now real?
Oh boy, I almost missed the racism.
– And finally, it is MEN who venture deep into the deadly, hazard prone “diamond mines” located in remote locations
It’s easy to miss, but Trogdor’s “remote locations” comment is telling to me. Those diamond mines aren’t in remote locations to the people who work them! But given that MRAs are almost universally racist as well as sexist, Trogdor probably can’t imagine anyone but white men doing productive work, so he probably has some vague image in his mind of white men hopping on airplanes and flying to Africa to personally dig diamonds out of the dirt to give to their wives.
Can’t imagine why white first-world men would do that. That’s what subjugation of local populations is for! And that’s another reason Trogdor is full of shit.
Because biology fail is one of most favorite kinds of fail, I really enjoy when people think that everything about human behavior is totally and completely explained by genetics and evolution, but that men do not pass any of these traits down to their daughters. As though the vast majority of the human genome were carried on the sex chromosomes, and so sons are copies of their fathers, while daughters must be copies of their useless mothers. Or maybe it’s that all the good genes result in latent traits in all females? I don’t really know, it is unlike the Earth biology I am more familiar with.
(Also, hi everybody. I have lurked for awhile but never commented before, and I think many of you are hilarious, intentionally or otherwise.)
A few other pertinent questions:
-Do men force women to do the shopping and/or refuse to shop themselves? Or do men simply not eat anything they didn’t kill with their own hands?
-Do men resist improved safety measures in factories and workplaces?
-Do men commit the crimes that make law enforcement necessary?
-Do men own and operate sweatshops, keeping the wages low and the hours long?
-Do men, in the apparent name of fiscal responsibility, allow our infrastructure to crumble, creating safety risks and a constant need for expensive, ineffective repairs?
-Do men speculate on the diamond market, keeping demand high while artificially restricting supply so that they can make more money off it?
Because, you know, if wimminz are lazy and never do anything, it stands to reason.
I’ve been lurking for a while (love your posts) but have finally been driven to comment.
Putting aside the male-dominated jobs this doorknob has listed, he is amazingly, outstandingly, obnoxiously blinkered if he thinks that it’s men doing the majority of the following work worldwide…
…particularly in the fields and sweatshops of the world, especially in developing nations
Hell, even in developed nations it would be interesting to hear the response he’d get going up to women on farms telling them they’re “parasites”.
I love how Greece and Rome are listed as feminist time periods. They’re… places. That still exist. And Ancient Rome and Greece (Which I know is what he meant) weren’t particularly feminist…
I mean, they hated woman so much they didn’t even want to sleep with them.
Men … are survivors, innovators, explorers, fighters. Most importantly, we men have the ability to ADAPT to changing conditions and environments … something women are incapable of for the most part. …
Something tells me that this Trog
lodytedor doesn’t seem to realize that if only men can adapt, then the human race would have died out long ago. Women have to be able to adapt too, otherwise we’d be long extinct and cockroaches would have invented flying cars by now.Speaking of flying cars, if men are responsible for all inventions and innovations, can I blame them as a whole for only producing modes of transportation that run on antiquated fuels and rely on tax resource-heavy roads? We are sorely lacking in the flying car department and I want to blame someone.
*yawns and stretches paws out* He’s in good company xD Some of the rly transphobic radfems like talking about the coming Mad Max apocalypse too xD (the problem of looking for similarly worded hatred from self identified feminists is that critics all obsess over finding ones against cis men, but when it comes to transphobia.. yikes Dx so if you want to attack feminists for being awful, then care about fighting transphobia, and you’ll have your sharp pointy stick! 😀 )
I remember 2 comments similar to this where one talked about how they are against trans ppl b/c in the mad max gender war future (the MRAs like this and the radfems like this seem to RLY LIKE the idea of the coming gender war they predict xD they should be like the apocalyptic Christian and Jewish sects I read about in The Year of Living Biblically who are working together to try to get the end times going b/c they believe their side will benefit xD) there will be no hormones and trans ppl will be left scrambling and confused and easy prey, and they’re just trying to help them pre-emptively by being against transitioning in the present >_>;;
The other was the Matrix future where if ppl don’t stop the rise of trans ppl in the present, in the future trans women will be harvesting the organs of cis women for their own purposes xD
So yeah, not particularly good company there for this personpants : I always love the news articles that talk about how men “hunt” for products when they shop and women “gather” when we shop. xD One I remember had an “expert” talked about how men shopping online are feeding their base hunting instincts xDDDD
The real problem w/ the dynamic he’s talking about tho is classism : (b/c he seems to think that women are all living in “The Hills” or living the Suite Life xD) so he’s actually got a point… until we get to the coming mutant Apocalypse xD
I’m gonna be raptured off to catbunny heaven before the gender war starts neways tho cuz I’ve been a good angelcatbunny 😀 But those who aren’t, I suggest stocking up on supplies, and picking a side xD Remember to watch out for the mechanical trans spiders, they’re a doozy xD (what DID people think the T in T-1000 stood for neways? xD )
I’m sorry, I’m kind of stuck on the HSR connection, but that’s about the only interesting thing to me about this guy’s tedious, completely incorrect way of looking at the world. Even Marzipan likes to dig in her garden when she’s not rocking out, dude! Presuming Trogdor’s only experience with women comes from a defunct online cartoon (which, I’m saying it may), he’s gotta admit that women occasionally do important things like make casseroles for shirtless guys and host parades and such.
In fact, instead of pointing out where he’s gone wrong, I think a more interesting exercise would be to see if he’s right about anything. Okay, here’s one: I do like to sit on furniture when I watch TV (although I haven’t watched Oprah since like 1991, and I can’t say for a fact who assembled our couch, and of course my boyfriend sits on it too).
It looks like he’s got a worse ratio than the NWOslave ratio. That’s actually really impressive.
Remember to watch out for the mechanical trans spiders
*shifty eyes* Oooooh, there’s no such thing! I can reassure you, that will never happen. Nooosiree, nope, no mechanical trans spiders here! Nada! Zilch!
Hey…get away from that bucket of springs and gears! And don’t touch that sheet metal! That’s for my…uh…my…my new shed! Yeah, the apocalypse-proof shed I’m building!
My husband has severe back problems. We live in the mountains and I’m the one that shoots the elk with the compound bow. I’m the one who eviscerates (sp) it on the spot.
We freeze it and eat off of it all winter.
I’m the one working in our veggie garden and harvesting, then canning the fruits and veggies.
Yep, we love survival shows and watch them together. The only constructive thing about his post is that everyone, men and women, should learn some survival techniques and how to grow and store food.
I love how this dude is obviously a rich city person. Seriously, I can’t imagine anyone who has lived or worked in a low income or rural neighborhood to spout shit like this. Only rich urban men pretend that all women could or do live like the gender expectations for rich urban women.
Fantastic pics–though i’m sure T. and others will claim they are fake!
I’m caught up on the idea of the past feminist periods of history which I’ve never heard about in any history class or from any historian (my partner teachers World History from Big Bang to Early Modern:
“Feminist” periods of history … look what happened to women in Babylon, Greece, Egypt, Rome,
While there are some feminists arguing for more matrilineal and matriarchal cultures pre-urban-civilization, primarily upon archeological evidence, I’ve never heard anybody try to claim that Babylon, Greece, Egypt, or Rome had any feminist periods…..
Maybe they mean Babylon 5! After all it’s had a female commander a couple times! xD
Given that I feel that Trogdor’s odiousness is as clear as day, I’m just going to be pedantic and point out two things that I found silly in his little MANifesto.
“Take away all the take-out/fast food, automatic cars, cell phones and place one of these self-proclaimed “strong and independent” women out in the wilderness with nothing but the clothes on her back and watch how quickly she starves to death or gets eaten by a bear/lion/tiger/hyena/snake/shark, whichever comes first.”
What wilderness did he have in mind when he wrote “snake” and “shark”? Are there giant, person eating snakes somewhere I didn’t know about? Does the ocean consistute wilderness one could be dropped in now?
“It is MEN that work in dangerous unsanitory conditions inside the meat/butcher plants to provide safe meats to the fast-food/take out chains that women frequent.”
Did he just pick up a copy of “The Jungle” or something? I’m preeetty sure meat packing, at least in the “West”, is regulated by laws about sanitation, etc.
“It is MEN in the form of police, security guards, and soldiers that provide women with a “safe atmosphere” in which they can walk around freely at night.”
Stepping out of pedantry here, he obviously hasn’t heard about the acquittal of the two cops who broke into a woman’s house and raped her. Then again I’m sure he thinks she was lying.
Since it is men themselves who are presenting a danger to women in those situations it is perhaps meet that they police themselves.
Permit me to observe that they are not entirely successful.