Poor Arnold Schwarzenegger!
Picture the scene.
It’s January 1997. Arnold’s in a good mood, sitting in his den, paging through the latest issue of Variety. He chuckles to himself. Fuck the critics! Jingle All the Way is putting asses in the seats of the multiplexes of America, and that means money in the bank to the Terminator.
Suddenly, he hears the door to the room click shut behind him. It’s that devious maid again, with her wily, sexy Latin ways! “Que pasa?” she says, running her hands through his hair. He’s still not quite sure what that phrase means, exactly, but it seems to have a hypnotic effect on him, and his penis. He pulls the maid to him.
The next minute and a half are a blur. “Curses!” he mutters to himself, as he realizes that, once again, the wily maid has lured his hapless penis into her vaginal cavity. But it’s too late. The penis has released its precious load. “Me han robado tu esperma,” she hisses. “¿Dónde está la biblioteca?”
This, give or take a few of the details, seems to be how the author of the Rebuking Feminism blog imagines the events that led to the birth of Arnold’s love-child 14 years ago. Yep: in his version of events, it’s the women – both the maid, Patty Baena, and wife Maria – who are responsible for Arnold’s indiscretions:
Maria Shriver should have known better than to let any half way decent looking woman spend so much time in the house. The whole ballgame changes when a man reaches Arnold’s status. Women come begging to be f***ed by you. Women practically disrobe and spread when guys like Arnold walk in the room. I’m sure he abstained plenty of times but women like this maid wait for her opportunity when in such close proximity.
It’s tough, I guess, to be a freakishly huge, fabulously wealthy alpha male who wants to fuck everything in sight. But tougher indeed to be a beta:
As is quite common with the type of situation that took place with Arnold, I’m sure this little whore took her prized bastard back home to be raised by her oblivious, committed, and cuckolded beta male husband.
Some people might say, hey, isn’t Arnold partially to blame for cuckolding that little whore’s cuckolded beta male husband? No. It’s important to remember: he’s a victim too, and obviously not responsible for the sexual activity that Mrs. Baena lured him into with her fiery Latin vagina.
Maria may now file for divorce. The only people to end up completely fu*ked here will be the two men…Arnold for engaging in adultery (and the price only men have to pay for it) and the man that was cuckolded by his adulterous whore wife and will have to pay for it as well. Men bear liability to women on both sides of the equation. Men have no rights.
Now all Maria and Patty need to do is sit back and collect the cash. Ka-ching-gle All the Way!
EDITED TO ADD: The author of the post has added a response to my post as a addendum to his original post. The gist of it:
Arnold and his impropriety was not the intended focus of this article. I take it as common knowledge among my readers that what Arnold did was obviously wrong. This was not the point of the article.
The point of this article was to illustrate how adultery is supported by law on one end (the female end) and not supported by law on the male end.
Arnie – Laws barring women from voting existed in many states:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Map_of_US_Suffrage,_1920.svg
The Nineteenth Amendment wasn’t exactly superfluous.
“How does the fact that a woman is carrying the child have anything to do with affecting her choice to not have it? How does this make a man any more culpable or responsible for the situation? Men don’t have a responsibility to women in this regard just like women don’t have a responsibility to men in the same. Each sex has the EQUAL right to abort such responsibility.
Where is your objection here?”
Obviously you didn’t see what Holly wrote. I’ll just repeat it for you.
“An aborted fetus doesn’t have needs and doesn’t accrue expenses. A child does. It’s not comparable.”
And that would be the objection.
This is quite a tag team match o_o;;;
Holly w/ the tag… Pecunium’s in with a stiff right elbow to Arnie’s jaw… Arnie stumbles back but counters w/ a right hook! He takes Pecunium into the corner and wails away, but Pecunium dodges the last punch and grabs him into a reverse suplex! Here’s the pin! 1… 2… oh he kicked out!
Pecunium brings Arnie back to his feet and irish whips him but Arnie dodges the clothesline and returns w/ a flying elbow! Both men are down now! Both parners are screaming for the tag! They’re crawling to their corners! Arnie’s reaching for the tag… reaching… here’s the tag! NWO is in! He rushes at Pecunium and stomps on him before he can make the tag to Holly! He keeps stomping him on the ground! Oh my gawd Pecunium is a mess! NWO off the ropes now with a running elbow drop! PECUNIUM ROLLS OUT OF THE WAY!
NWO is rolling on the ground in pain! Holly’s screaming for the tag…. Pecunium’s crawling.. trying to get to her… NWO is recovering… getting back up … Pecunium lunges.. here’s the tag!
Holly in like a house on fire! Strong right hands to NWO’s head! Irish whip into a clothesline! NWO stumbles back up and into a chicken wing suplex! OH MY LAWD that had to hurt! Here’s the pin… 1… 2.. but NWO kicks out! Folks we have a slobber knocker tonight!
” The difference about “abortion for men” is that (unless the woman consents to a medical procedure that she didn’t want to be performed on her body) the kid still exists. ”
Well then consent or don’t it’s your choice remember? You are making men more responsible in order to enable your choices. This is not equality. Men are no more responsible for conception as women are. Again, it is a mutual act requiring mutual responsibility and the equal choice to absolve ourselves from it. However, he should be required to help pay for the abortion right down the middle. Equal is equal in all realms.
It’s my choice? I’m not a woman Arnie. What is my choice is the choice to get a vasectomy if I want to be 100% sure I don’t someday become responsible for creating a human life.
Hey Holly, how does one of the perfect ones make the distinction from disposable fetus to a seperate living being that she carries?
I mean is it a spiritual thingy? Is there lights and cosmic forces and Indianna Jones stuff going on? I’d actually like to be present when a woman who has decided to get an abortion, (therefore that fetus is considered dead) but she changes her mind and that formerly dead fetus is given life by sheer willpower.
Are you women just stringing us men along when really you simply create life by mere thought? Gosh you are great.
How does the fact that a woman is carrying the child have anything to do with affecting her choice to not have it?
Holy shit, dude, really? I mean, were you honestly able to type that question out with a straight face?
Arnie: If it wasn’t male opposition to the vote that kept women from getting it… why did it take 60 years for the men (who were the only one’s who could decide the issue… they being the one’s with the vote), to actually “give” it to the women.
Maybe it was because they didn’t want to.
As to abortion: I am in favor of it. What you call, “male abortion” isn’t abortion. It’s abandonment. That, or it’s compelling a woman to have a surgical procedure for his benefit.
It’s a violation of her autonomy. Him using a condom, or finding a partner who also doesn’t want kids, or has the same ideas on what to do if there is an accidental pregnancy… that’s what grown-ups do.
Little kids, and other morally undeveloped people, refuse to look at the consequences of their actions, and then try to put all the responsibilities for resolving them onto other people.
So go on, keep bleating, “make abortion would make things ‘equal’,” but that’s a shabby lie. It’s a way to force your choice onto someone else (i.e. she has to get an abortion) or abdicate the responsibility to the child.
So yeah, if a man is careless enough to not plan against the possibilities, or how to cope with them, he is stuck.
Just as with anything else. Plan for the possible, and cope with it when it comes. Amazingly, I’ve managed to avoid being an inadvertent parent. 28 years of having sex, and no unwanted kids. It’s not that hard.
If there had been an accident, then guess what… It’s not my call. I made the decision to have sex, and I took reasonable precautions to either prevent (or not) children. But it’s not my body.
It might have been my money, but it was never going to be my body. She is pregnant. She is the one who bear that risk (or not). That final choice (to keep, or not) is hers.
And if there were an unplanned for kid… That child needs food, and clothes, and care, and shelter, and all the other things which people need.
If I was there for that, then I had a hand in it, and I see nothing wrong in being compelled (if I should flake) to provide for those needs.
“It’s my choice? I’m not a woman Arnie. What is my choice is the choice to get a vasectomy if I want to be 100% sure I don’t someday become responsible for creating a human life.”
Wow, what a gentleman. Taking responsibility for a mutual act involving mutual responsibility is pretty gracious of you. Couldn’t you just as easily sterilize her and make her responsible for this mutual act and it’s ramifications? I guess that’s not the manly thing to do huh?
Arnie,
I don’t know whether I agree or disagree with your argument that men should have the same right as women to “abort” parental responsibility, a part of me thinks if I were to get pregnant and have options, so should the man I slept with (which is why in our current legal situation I would discuss the available options with him), but anothe part of me thinks that once there is a child, there is a child who needs love and support (both emotional and financial).
However, I do have a couple of comments on the idea of male “abortions” and how they would have to work to be truly equal to the right to an abortion women currenty have.
First, women are required to go to a specific clinic to have an abortion (unless it is medically necessary). In the state I live in, there are only three such clinics available, so women who want an abortion are required to physically show up at an abortion clinic (which may be hours from where they actually live) and face the stigma of having an abortion. If men want to “abort” their parental rights, they should have to show up at the same place to complete whatever paperwork is required.
Second, many states impose strict requirements on who actually is able to have an abortion. Some states require a woman to show up at the clinic, request an abortion, have a sonogram and hear the description of the fetus development, wait two days, and then come back. Some states require parental consent if the woman is under age 18 (with the option of a judicial bypass if necessary). For a male “abortion,” the requirements should be the same.
Third, women are not allowed to get an abortion whenever they want during a pregnancy. In the first trimester, there are few (if any) restrictions, but after that, most states impose heavy restrictions. Practically speaking, for many women this restricts their right to an abortion to the first trimester. Some women (I’m not saying most, I’m saying some) aren’t even aware they are pregnant at this point. Some women aren’t able to get in to the clinic. Some women haven’t made their choice. Men should have the same time restrictions as women. By this, I don’t mean that men should have a specific amount of time after learning that they have impregnanted a woman. I mean that if a man finds out that a woman he slept with is pregnant in her first trimester, great, abort away. If not, sorry, but the state imposes restrictions on us all.
Finally, abortions aren’t free. In fact, abortions can be quite expensive depending on the timing in the pregnancy. Men who want to “abort” their parental rights should have to pay the same amoutn as it would cost to have a medical abortion. I’m not sure who they should have to pay this amount to, but they should have to pay.
Those are just a few of my thoughts on how your theory of a male abortion would have to work to be truly “equal.” Again, not sure if I agree with it, but I am sure that it should be as difficult for men as it is for women to exercise their “right.”
NWO – Would you stop with the sarcasm and insults? Seriously. I disagree with you, but I don’t call you “a slobbering asshole who thinks he’s Lord God King of Ur” every single time I refer to you. That would get old.
Obviously I don’t think women are perfect. And I assume you don’t think women are perfect. So I guess you think women think they’re perfect, and how the fuck do you argue with that?
And the answer to your question is actually fairly difficult and fuzzy, but most abortions take place when the fetus looks like this: (warning, ucky picture!)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Human_Embryo.JPG
It’s not exactly a bouncing baby going “ma ma,” at that point. Deciding that this is a human is entirely as arbitrary as deciding that it’s not.
NWO and katz’s failure on the history of coal mining
Hey! I didn’t say anything about the history of coal mining. I just pointed out that NWO said that women shouldn’t work in coal mines for their safety, and then in his next comment wanked that nobody cares about men’s safety.
Hey Arnie… look at this: Taking responsibility for a mutual act involving mutual responsibility is pretty gracious of you.
You know that looks like… I mean really, the semantic content…
That both people are responsible for the kid.
You DO agree with me.
That makes me feel so much better. Go you.
“If it wasn’t male opposition to the vote that kept women from getting it… why did it take 60 years for the men (who were the only one’s who could decide the issue… they being the one’s with the vote), to actually “give” it to the women.”
Well you say men as if it was all inclusive, most men did not have the right to vote. Men won their right to vote some short years before women did. Well in our case I think it was about 80 years.
Pecunium off the top rope with a LOGIC BOMB on Arnie!!! The pin… here’s the count…
ONE….
TWO…
Also, it’s not perfectly 50/50 when it comes to the creation of the child. The man certainly does supply some of his own body in the beginning, but from then on out, it’s the woman’s body doing all the work. The idea behind abortion rights is that it’s her right to decide if she wants to put her body through that or not – and once the baby is here, then she’s on the hook as a parent just as much as the father is.
How does the fact that a woman is carrying the child have anything to do with affecting her choice to not have it?
“Holy shit, dude, really? I mean, were you honestly able to type that question out with a straight face?”
So you are saying that just because an abortion for a woman is a bit of a pain in the ass men should be removed of all our rights to avoid this pain of women? Isn’t this what killed so many men on the Titanic. When does the chivalry stop and equal rights begin?
Men won their right to vote some short years before women did. Well in our case I think it was about 80 years.
Sometimes Arnie logic bombs HIMSELF.
There were a bunch of comments in moderation; they’re up now. Worth scrolling up to read.
No Holly, land owning males were not allowed to vote. Coming out of feudal times and toward democracy many men did not own land. The vast majority of men did not have the right to vote as and women did not either.
Men won their right to vote sometime before women did in all democratic nations.
Men died on the Titanic because women have the right to choose? Bzuh?
The fact that the woman is carrying the child has everything to do with her right to choose. I don’t think I’ve ever managed to see so much misogyny squished into one little sentence before.
Sorry, meant “non land owning men were not allowed to vote”
No Holly, theres no fuzziness about it. If you were aborted you would be dead and you wouldn’t be posting here. No person has the right to kill another and that is exactly what abortion is. You’ve told me before that you go to some type of religeous class. So you must be spiritually moral in some fashion. This my body my choice crap is a State endorsed moral that goes directly against your faith.
Holly: Mostly Arnie just bombs. I mean really… How does the fact that a woman is carrying the child have anything to do with affecting her choice to not have it?
Then he tries to defend it. One almost feels sorry for him, then one realises this is actually the way he thinks, and well… one pretty much has to feel sorry for him.
Yeah, Arnie, a lot of men were denied the right to vote. And you know what? That sucked. Because no adult citizen should be denied the right to vote.
…what were we even fucking talking about?