Do MGTOWers get their notions of modern romance from old Smurf cartoons? I’m beginning to think they do. As you may remember, the world of the Smurfs was an all-male bastion until evil Gargamel created the creature he called Smurfette from a mixture of
Sugar and spice but nothing nice…A dram of crocodile tears…A peck of bird brain…The tip of an adder’s tongue…Half a pack of lies, white, of course…The slyness of a cat…The vanity of a peacock…The chatter of a magpie…The guile of a vixen and the disposition of a shrew…And of course the hardest stone for her heart…..
Initially an evil, deceitful brunette, Smurfette was transformed by Papa Smurf into a glamorous (and less obviously evil) blonde. At which point Smurfs young and old began falling in love with her, supplicating themselves before her Smurfy beauty. Even Papa Smurf himself had the Smurfs for her, as you can see in the video above – even though, as her co-creator, he was basically her father. Ick. Sometimes Smurfette played her smurfy suitors against one another, inspiring them to even greater depths of supplication.
MGTOWers, and a lot of MRAs, basically see this as the basic paradigm of romance: men jumping through hoops to even get noticed by stuck-up women who need do nothing but exist in order to garner male attention. In the Smurf world, this was because there was only one Smurfette in a village full of lonely Smurfs. In the real world, in which men and women balance out more evenly, well, MGTOWers and MRA recreate the weird Smurfy imbalance by simply declaring most women undateable – too old (if they’re over 25 or 30) or too fat (with BMIs over 25). Hey presto! Now men, much like Smurfs, can compete against one another for the same small number of women, making almost everyone miserable in the process, especially themselves.
In Smurf world, of course, Smurfette is chaste and pure; she may kiss the boys but that’s about it. This hardly comports with the MGTOW notion that women are all slutty sluts, bedding down with every thug-boy and alpha male who makes their ‘ginas tingle, to use the peculiarly offputting parlance of the misogynist set. Natually enough, a few creative internetters have reimagined Smurfette as a Smurfslut. Warning: this video may destroy your image of Smurfette forever. This one’s worse.
Oh, and for an interesting discussion of the misogyny and apparent anti-Semitism of Smurf creator Peyo, see here.
You guys don’t get it- Smurfette’s manipulation is not a negative stereotype because such behavior (from women) is CELEBRATED in our culture. It’s seen as a GOOD thing, which is why Smurfette never faces consequences, because men’s oppression and men (represented by Smurfs) being spit on and looked down upon is “funny” and “how it should be”. The creators of the Smurfs are undoubtedly male, but that’s no excuse because they are brainwashed manginas.
According to this smurfy website I found, there were three female smurfs: Smurfette, Sassette Smurfling, and Nanny Smurf. There was also Baby Smurf, whose gender was not specified.
http://bluebuddies.com/help/smurf_names_and_list_of_the_smurfs.htm
Hey, women – raise your hand if you think Smurfette is awesome and you want to be just like her! Anyone? Anyone? Beuller?
You know, David, Holly’s suggestion of responding to trolls with smurf language reminds me of another blogger I like, who responds to particularly bad trolls by ‘devowling’ their posts. Only seen it happen once, but it was amazing. I feel like it could be a drain on you, depending on how often you do it, but randomly changing a troll’s last post to inject random “SMURF” or something along those lines before a ban could be pretty amazing.
I think what MRAL means by mangina is by a man being, you know, polite and respectful towards a woman in a way that does not show his supposed superiority based on the way he describes it.
I thought the Smurfs were commies?
The fact is that Smurfette’s behavior is NORMAL BEHAVIOR, with no stigma attached, from bytches in the real world. Fucking enablers like the creators of the Smurfs are fucking traitor manginas.
Also, and I’m completely serious, notice how Papa Smurf is the tallest of the Smurfs. Why do you think that is? Height bigotry.
No it is not. Women are not encouraged to be manipulative bitches (well, not most women, some mothers…) who treat men with contempt.
He also wears red-does that mean he is racist too?
What?
And if that’s true that such behavior is discouraged, why was Smurfette never punished karmically for her actions? It’s because it was not seen as wrong, but normal and good and FUCKING FUNNY. Smurfette is a classic alpha BITCH in cartoon form, FUCKHER GODD dDamn it..
I smurfing love this smurf. I never watched the smurfs much myself, but perhaps that’s a good thing. -_-
@MRAL:
Hoo smurf. Ever notice how every one of your smurfs begin with a bald assertion of smurf after smurf with no smurf in smurfality? Who around here agrees with you that manipulative smurfs are CELEBRATED in our culture? Even here, in the smurfs den of smurf and smurf, we don’t believe that smurfs are supposed to be manipulative smurfs.
Or do you just get your smurfs from smurfing these forums, changing the goal smurfs of every debate until your own position is a confused muddle of smurf and smurf? Seriously, smurf off.
nAgain, the magina creators of Smurfs clearly think so because Smurfette was never punished for being a G rated whore and cheater. Look at pop culture in which abusive women are “funny” and the man is a “pussy” for not standing up for himself. Female hypergamy (cheating, etc.) is celebrated, while men are pigs for doing the same things. It’s ALL AROUND YOU.
*gasp* I see, I see it all! All women are coniving bitches out to steal my money and my manhood! Oh how could I have not seen it before? Thank you ever so much MRAL. Even though I can’t really put my finger on what exactly convinced me you were right, that doesn’t matter! You’re so sure of yourself that you must be right!
Also lizard aliens have taken over the bodies of our top political leaders and are, at this very moment, plotting the downfall of mankind! The evidence is overwhelming! It’s ALL AROUND YOU.
“What would a Spartan smurf be like?”
THIS IS SMURFA!
Then go forth and actually do something to change it. Not on the Smurfs which have been off the air for twenty years but on current TV shows you find celebrating what you think are negative traits.
No one is stopping you. Here I will gently smurf you out the door.
Whatever, this is my life experience, man. Maybe you look like Brad Pitt and can get ass when you want but most men cannot and are treated as practically indentured servants. Just today multiple women spat on me for no reason than I was a man and therefore inferior.
TONIGHT WE SMURF IN HELL!!!!
MRAL: They literally spit on you? Really? I didn’t think so. So what did they actually do that you consider ‘spitting on’?
MRAL, you always talk about being “spat on.” What does this mean? What did these women actually do to you?
WHAT IS WITH ALL THESE SMURFING BRAD PITT SMURFS?!!!
Brad Pitt is like a million years old. Find someone else to claim the women are all tingly for.
Honestly MRAL, it seems like your major complaint is that you (and other men) can’t get sex. Honestly, if that’s the worst thing in your life, and that you see around you, that’s not too terrible. Yes, there are many men that can’t get sex, but you know what? There are probably just as many women in the same boat.
(If anybody is curious, there is this, though I honestly can’t tell whether it was serious or not. Curse you Poe’s law!)
You know, MRAL, usually you give people the benefit of the doubt in situations like these. Usually conversation can only occur if you trust that the other person is as interested in truth as you are, and is willing to be honest about their experience.
I don’t know if this is the case for you. Your argument has hinged upon your experience of female oppression, so I have to ask; really? Did multiple women really spit on you today, for absolutely no reason? Were you really just walking down the street when a gang of feminazis decided to approach you and spit on you simply because you are a man? I don’t believe you, but I’ll give you a chance. What were the circumstances? Were these women you knew? Were they strangers? Had you done said or done anything before the incident that might have provoked it?
(ah the multiple ninja, the tradgedy of long posts…)
From one of the links above:
A final insight into the nature of Smurfette comes to us form a biography of Peyo. In it, his translator tells a story of how the animator sold the character of Smurfette to NBC.
“Peyo began by saying that she was “very feminine.” They asked him to be more specific, so he went on to say: “She is pretty, blonde, she has all the characteristics of women…” Knowing the feminist spirit in the U.S.A., I diplomatically translated this as “all the qualities.” I was banking on the fact that Peyo did not understand what I was saying (in English) and the others did not understand what he was trying to say. So naturally they asked him to expand. So he kept on going with: “She seduces, she uses trickery rather than force to get results. She is incapable of telling a joke without blowing the punch line. She is a blabbermouth but only makes superficial comments. She is constantly creating enormous problems for the Smurfs but always manages to blame it on someone else.”
Yeah … he sounds like such a mangina. Positively feminist. (insert eyeroll smiley here)
MRAL, were you really spit on today by multiple women?