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Hey, you asked for it.

One of the many happy benefits of moving this blog to WordPress is that I can now see in gory detail the search terms people use to get here. The most common search terms are, naturally enough, “manboobz” and “man boobz.” It’s on the third-most-popular search term that things start to get weird: it’s “Australopithecus.”  Why? Well, because once upon a time I posted a picture of an Australopithecus couple going about their Australopithecus business.

Let’s take a quick tour through the rest of the search terms list. I think we can learn a few things, both about this blog and about the dreams and desires of people whiling away a boring afternoon at work by poking around the internet. Here are some preliminary conclusions I have drawn from the data:

1) The teeming millions want to look at dudes with lots of muscles:

world’s most muscliest man

most big muscle in the world

world’s muscular man

disgustingly big muscles

silly muscles

les muscle man end the world

And no, I have no idea what that last one means either.

Clearly, the prevalence of muscle-man related search terms is the side effect of having that little picture of a muscly man at the top of the sidebar in the blogger version of this blog. I feel bad that this was all I had to offer the searchers, so as you can see I’ve added a pic of a man with some, yes, ”disgustingly big muscles.”

2) Human sexuality is a weird, wonderful, and often horrifying thing. Sometimes, it involves advanced computer and/or robotic technology:

future lady robot

create a virtual woman with boobs

will cherry 2000 ever happen?

computer mouse in vagina

Other times, animals:

panda furry porn

animal dildo porn

fish meat and women porn movies

I am trying to get that last image out of my head.

3) If you regularly mention sperm on your blog, you’re going to attract a few weirdos:

how to steal sperm

do lizards like human cum

I just Googled that last one and this post of mine was the FIRST RESULT! I would therefore like to publicly state that I DO NOT KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION and have never even tried to find out the answer to that question. And if you by chance actually do know the answer to that question DO NOT TELL IT TO ME.

4) Angry dudes trying to find men’s rights sites can be careless typists:

why do you always here fiminist indoctorin at school but nothing about mens right activist?

women are like chilfren

A few final thoughts:

Many of the questions listed above are questions that are frankly best left unanswered. But there are some others I would dearly love to see answers to:

what do intellegent agressive beefcake nerds want

what does germaine greer think of buck angel

And one question I can answer pretty definitively:

can socially awkward men find love

Yes. The answer to that one is yes.

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NWOslave
NWOslave
10 years ago

@Holly…I want to know what you think the punishment should be. Not some civil suit crap. C’mon lets hear it, your all about equality. She wanted his ass in jail for 20 fuckin years.

NWOslave
NWOslave
10 years ago

@Simone Lovelace… Well than, I’m sure you want a rapist imprisoned for a long, long time as do I. So lets hear you opinion. Civil suit anyone? Gosh thats sounds harsh. Maybe a little community service to really drive the point home.

Holly
10 years ago

Okay, well, in Massachusetts, “Whoever intentionally and knowingly makes or causes to be made a false report of a crime to police officers shall be punished by a fine of not less than one hundred nor more than five hundred dollars or by imprisonment in a jail or house of correction for not more than one year, or both.”

Plus civil penalties, which I really can’t judge.

NWOslave
NWOslave
10 years ago

Ok Holly you wouldn’t “presume” to pass judgement. What a gem you are.

Holly
10 years ago

Just cause you say it sarcastic don’t make it a lie.

NWOslave
NWOslave
10 years ago

@Holly…Well go massatwoshits. Picture this little scenario, Man gets accused of rape loses job, friends, wife, name in paper. He’s found innocent, but as you say innocent isn’t the “same as didn’t do it.”

He doesn’t jet job, wife, friends back. Hes an outcast now. The woman coughed up $100.00, her name isn’t in the newspaper, ya know that feminist can’t name accuser in paper law. She doin just fine. He’s a bum in the streets. But justice was served. Oh baby I feel so much better now.

Skyborne
10 years ago

Well, Germaine Greer was and is pretty notoriously anti-trans, although most of her attacks have been against trans women rather than trans men. She’s also anti-porn, albeit in favor of erotic pictures of young boys. So, my best guess is she would sternly disapprove of Buck Angel.

Holly
10 years ago

Really, I don’t understand how this conversation got around to where I have to decide a specific punishment for ALL THE MILLIONS OF FALSE RAPE ACCUSERS out there. The whole thing is a slap in the face to women who’ve been raped (IT HAPPENS!) and hear this “you know you can’t trust a bitch” shit, who can’t get justice because of it, who get shunned by people who should be their allies in a very painful time because of it.

Funny story: I was sexually assaulted once. But because of the circumstances (I was sleeping with the guy consensually before, I voluntarily went to his house alone, and he didn’t leave any marks), I knew there was no way in hell I was getting a conviction, plus I’d be putting my own neck on the line big-time, so I didn’t press charges at all. The guy’s got a new girlfriend and as far as I know is doing great for himself.

Does this story, like, arouse any emotion whatsoever in you?

NWOslave
NWOslave
10 years ago

@Holly…Yes the story does. And if it’s true, slap his name on the screen for us right now.

Bee
Bee
10 years ago

Okay, so … I’m picturing that scenario (except that in my scenario, he’s found not guilty, but whatever. Real life vs. the world of your fertile imagination), and there are two possibilities.

1. The woman was raped. She went through the trauma of a report, rape kit, interview, trial. Her life was ruined. Maybe she can’t sleep, maybe she can’t eat–however she deals with trauma. She sees her attacker go free. Then she gets hit with a false rape report charge, all because the DA couldn’t make the case against her attacker. That’s shitty.

Or 2. The woman made up a story about being raped, and ruined this guy’s life. He loses everything, as you say. He gets off because hey — he didn’t do it. The justice system more or less works. It didn’t work as well as it should, but at least an innocent guy isn’t sent to prison, right? Then the woman is charged with filing the false report. Her name and photo is released to the press, as these two women’s were. The guy is vindicated. Maybe he doesn’t get his wife back, or his job, but his name is cleared, and his false accuser’s misdeeds have been exposed.

Both are pretty shitty outcomes for pretty shitty situations. I’m not sure what your point was. Life sucks sometimes?

Holly
10 years ago

Yeah, that’s not how it works. (I’m sort of regretting sharing this, but I got all worked up, and anyway I don’t really have that much emotion about it at this point.)

It’s true, and therefore, I’m not putting his name up, because he or one of his friends could find it and retaliate against me somehow to punish me for telling people. It’s unlikely, his name’s pretty common, but it’s not worth the risk.

Also, why the hell would that prove anything? You take my word or you don’t. The guy’s off merrily making money and banging chicks either way.

Bee
Bee
10 years ago

I’m so sorry that happened to you, Holly. And of course you’re not going to share his name on the internet just to prove a point. It’s ridiculous for someone to challenge that.

For what it’s worth, out of all the women I’ve known who were sexually assaulted (outside of my volunteer job), I only know one who filed a report — and she was raped by a guy lunging out of an alley with a weapon, and he was found not guilty. The way NWOslave is framing this discussion would be laughable if it weren’t so common in the MRM.

NWOslave
NWOslave
10 years ago

@Bee…Indeed, both are pretty shitty outcomes for pretty shitty situations. Since these two ladies are recieving the harshest of punishments, It would seem any man falsely accused will always be punished more severely.

Strange how the innocent man suffers far more harshly, jail, homelessness, loss of job, wife, friends, children, suicide. While the guilty woman suffers very little if at all.

I’d imagine that if a woman was found to have purposely falsely accused a man and the punishment for that false accusation was harsh, this problem would go away.

Shaenon
10 years ago

Do all women do this? Of course not. But lets add up the numbers shall we? If theres a million a year, which is probably on the low ball side. In fourty years thats 40 million.

Those are big numbers, all right. But I don’t understand why you’re ignoring the REAL problem tearing society apart: women who walk down the street sticking ostrich feathers up men’s noses.

I think a million men get ostrich feathers stuck up their noses per year. I don’t have to look up any crime statistics; it sounds like the right number to me so it must be true. In fact, a million is on the low side, knowing how women are evil and also love ostriches. In 40 years, that’s 40 million men walking around with feathers up their noses. Forty million! Wow! Add in all the women who stick turkey feathers up men’s noses, all the women who stick Q-Tips up men’s noses, and all the women who get to play soccer because of Title IX, and only one conclusion is possible: in 40 years, men will finally have to flee to Mars to escape the female menace.

Don’t pretend to disagree with me. You know that women stick ostrich feathers up the noses of a million men every year, there is no legal punishment for sticking things up people’s noses, and men are secretly constructing a space ark to Mars. If you disagree with any detail of my scenario, it means you support sticking feathers up men’s noses.

WHY DO YOU WANT MEN TO GET OSTRICH FEATHERS UP THE NOSE?

Rachel
Rachel
10 years ago

NWO – people are not found “innocent” in a criminal trial, they are found “not guilty,” meaning that the evidence presented did not prove the defendant was guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.

Also, about the website you posted earlier with statements about how unfair/unjust the rape laws are, I’m not going to go through all of them, but just a couple of comments.

I like to demonstrate by example, so –
– If you are walking down the street and someone picks your pocket, and you are the only one who knows it happens, was a crime committed? Should the police search for the person who robbed you? Should that person be prosecuted even if the only evidence presented at trial is your testimony that you were robbed and that you saw the person who robbed you and that person is the defendant? Criminal prosecutions don’t always require corroborating evidence, nor do they need to.
– so, during the trial of this person who picks your pocket, do you think that the defense should be able to bring in evidence of your past charitable donations? I mean, if you GIVE money away for free, who says you didn’t give it away this time? There is a reason this type of evidence is not presented at trial, it isn’t relevant. Giving money away doesn’t preclude the possibility that you could be a victim of robbery, and the same is true of rape – having sex doesn’t mean you cannot be raped, and prior sexual history is irrelevant to whether or not a woman is a victim of rape.
– if the person you know to have been the person who stole your wallet is found not guilty because the evidence is not strong enough, that doesn’t mean they were innocent. That means they were not found guilty beyond a reasonable doubt – same standard for rape trials.
– if it turns out that you were lying about your wallet being stolen, you would be subject to prosecution for perjury and a civil claim by the person you accused. The same punishment exists for a woman who has falsely accused a man of rape.

There are more things to say, but I presume you will just spew some sort of hate at me, unfounded in fact, no matter what I say. That may be unfair, but I’ve been reading your responses to other people on here for a while now, and that is generally your MO.

Holly
10 years ago

NWO – I think your perfect world is here. The punishment for making false accusations is harsh and therefore they are rare.

Celebrate!

Avicenna
10 years ago

NWO slave, that is not how law works at all. Papers tend to not print names of trials and of accused in case of starting a witch hunt.

They are very careful with their tone.

And “stop getting into situations where people can accuse you of rape”. If any woman tried to accuse me of rape people would mock her as being insane (I have a strict no one night stand policy.).

Simple solution to a simple problem. Stop dating women who accuse people of rape. Start dating intelligent ones who won’t accuse you of rape unless you do rape them.

Snowy
Snowy
10 years ago

@Holly Thank you for sharing that I’m so sorry that happened to you. I bet if you asked him David could take down these particular comments if you’re feeling uncomfortable with having it out there. Anyway, just wanted to be supportive somehow even though I know there’s not really much I can say.

Oh wait, nothing except, uh, please ignore the jackass suggesting that in order to prove the veracity of your statement you need to write the name of man who sexually assaulted you on the internet thereby putting yourself in danger of further harm.

Shaenon
10 years ago

I’d imagine that if a woman was found to have purposely falsely accused a man and the punishment for that false accusation was harsh, this problem would go away.

Okay, I’ll bite.

1. What should the punishment be?

2. Should this be the punishment for filing any false report of a crime, or only for filing a false rape report?

3. If it’s only for rape, why?

4. What if there really was a rape, but, for whatever reason (not enough evidence, etc.) the rapist wasn’t convicted? Should the woman still be punished for filing a false report?

Also…

5. You’re aware that false reports of rape are actually less common than false reports of most other crimes, right? You seem to think there’s some epidemic of false rape accusations, but nothing in the data from the legal community bears this out.

NWOslave
NWOslave
10 years ago

@Rachel…Your ad hominem is very poorly done. A pickpocket could stealthily steal without being detected. Not likely a woman doesn’t know shes being raped.

I made clear my opinion of violent rapists in my previous post. A mans life will most likely be completely ruined by any accusation of rape and if a woman falsely accuses a man of this serious crime, she gets a slap on the wrist, but the man who was falsely accused still has his life ruined. I find that a problem enshirined in Law. And who is fighting to increase these draconian laws?

Holly
10 years ago

Snowy – Not to be weird about it, but I really don’t care. It’s like saying “I got hit by a car once”–I would crack heads to not go through it again, but I don’t get super emotional talking about it. It wasn’t the worst as worsts go, and… everyone reacts differently.

Plus, I admit, and this is kind of horrible, but only in a “only works on horrible people” way, I was baiting NWO to say that a sexual assault which wasn’t reported and which had no consequences for the man was also a lie, just because, you know, women.

NWOslave
NWOslave
10 years ago

@Shaenon…I’ll answer your questions as I always do.

1)The punishment should be exactly the puishment sought against the falsely accused.

2)Any crime should get the punishment that would have befallen the accused had that person been guilty of the crime.

3)My answer to #2 answered this question.

4) Not enough evidence isn’t a puposeful false accusation.

5) No other crime comes close to false sexual allegations. If so please name this crime.

Bee
Bee
10 years ago

Strange how the innocent man suffers far more harshly, jail, homelessness, loss of job, wife, friends, children, suicide.

Oh, so there’s suicide now? Don’t let anyone tell you you can’t change facts around to suit you, NWOslave.

Anyway, yes, if we’re only looking at the second scenario, the man does suffer because of someone’s illegal actions. Strange how you failed to consider that in the first scenario — the far more likely scenario — it’s the innocent woman who suffers. Because she was raped, and not believed, and now her rapist is free. But of course who cares about the ladiez, amirite?

Rachel
Rachel
10 years ago

NWO – obviously a woman knows when she is getting raped. I would never dispute that fact. People also realize when they are the victims of other crimes, and sometimes there aren’t other witnesses. The fact that some (or most) pickpockets are able to steal undetected doesn’t change that fact that some others aren’t quite as stealthy. In my example, your pocket was picked by someone who obviously wasn’t stealthy. You saw them. Perfectly.

So, beyond pointing out that sometimes people commit crimes and and their victims don’t realize that they have been victimized until later, do you have any comment for when the victim DOES know they were victimized, does see their attacker, and is the only witness?

Holly
10 years ago

I would love to see what it gets to take NWO to admit that one rape, anywhere, ever, actually happened.

It’d be like losing his very manhood.

NWOslave
NWOslave
10 years ago

@Bee… Recent case in England, a woman who is a multiple false accuser. One of the young men commited suicide. One of the laws in rape trials is that a womans previous history is forbidden as evidence lest it taint the case. You don’t think men commit suicide at a rate of 4 to 1 as opposed to women for no damn good reason, do ya?

Or how about the girl whose 16 from atlanta who says shes 20 on her facebook page. Shes already got herself a two notches on her bedpost. Two men in prison for 2 years a pop because she lied about her age.

Snowy
Snowy
10 years ago

Actually, it is very likely that a woman will not know she’s being raped if she is passed out drunk. But I forgot, in your mind that qualifies as “talking her into it”.

NWOslave
NWOslave
10 years ago

@Holly…Something a little more tangible that I was drunk and taken advantage of Holly. My guess would be if a woman had bruises and such would be the first piece of credible evidence. I mean if I said I was assaulted you’d naturally expect at least a scratch or two on me, wouldn’t you?

Holly
10 years ago

I’m noticing a really big theme here. False equivalences.

False rape accusations are discussed as if they were the “opposite” of rape, the exact same thing backwards, when in fact they’re nothing like.

And the MRM is being talked about like it’s the “opposite” of feminism, when in fact it’ll be a cold day in hell when you hear mainstream feminists saying so much about evil men and so little about helping women.

Dudes like NWO try to set up these little tit-for-tats, but they’re completely fake.

NWOslave
NWOslave
10 years ago

@Snowy…No snowy if a man has sex with a passed out woman he has raped her. But the only way this could be proved was if someone else witnessed this, because if the woman was passed out she didn’t.

Snowy
Snowy
10 years ago

Holly – agreed.

Holly
10 years ago

NWO – What if someone said to you (trigger warning? whole damn place is a trigger) “if you don’t suck my cock, I’ll beat you to death,” and he had about 100 pounds on you, had you backed into a dark corner alone, and you believed him?

Wouldn’t leave a bruise.

Snowy
Snowy
10 years ago

Yeah NWOslave, that is the totally the only way it could be proved. Or maybe by a rape kit.

NWOslave
NWOslave
10 years ago

I’m afraid you’re wrong Holly, He’d have to do that to my unconcious body. Then there would be bruises as evidence.

NWOslave
NWOslave
10 years ago

@Snowy…I agree if is semen was found in her then he raped her and deserves the harshest of punishments.

Bee
Bee
10 years ago

NWOslave, you should totally feel free to just talk about whatever you want to, whether it follows from what anyone said or not. Don’t let anyone tell you differently.

Look, no one’s saying that false accusations aren’t bad, people who lie aren’t bad, or people who lie and put people in prison (or contribute to the reason they commit suicide) because of it aren’t bad. I don’t know who you think you’re arguing against. As for the reason men commit suicide at higher rates? I think there are a lot of reasons, but I’ve never seen false rape reports listed as a primary one. Do you really think it is, or are you just trying to make a (stupid, unsupported) point?

Holly
10 years ago

Okay, NWO, you sincerely believe he will not just knock out but kill you, and let’s imagine (briefly) that you’re a rational person. You gotta figure, a cock in your mouth, that’s not what you want at all and definitely not like this, but you’ll have the next forty, fifty years to cope and also to take care of your family and write that book you always were going to get around to and drive to the Cape this summer. So it’s better than death.

Still no bruises.

If you want to say “oh, no, I’d die first,” I commend you on your tremendous imaginary courage, but I hope I’ve given you a window on to why lesser beings might choose differently. That’s not consent–the victim thought he was gonna die!–and there’s not a mark on him.

NWOslave
NWOslave
10 years ago

@Bee…My first post was in response to the very first post of this article. I didn’t start it.

Shaenon
10 years ago

Okay, so in the “Who Shot Mr. Burns” episode of The Simpsons, when the cops threw Smithers in jail for attempted murder but later it turned out he was innocent, Chief Wiggum should’ve gotten the chair?

Bee
Bee
10 years ago

Sigh. Of course it was, MRAL. I was talking about your last post to me, about the 16 year old who lied about her age on FB and blah blah blah England. Did not follow from anything.

And Holly: About the false equivalence thing? Hells yes.

Johnny Pez
10 years ago

I’d like to take the opportunity here to point out that Slavey is full of shit. His actual purpose is to provide cover for men who rape women. The rest is just bullshit.

You may now return to your regularly scheduled commenting.

NWOslave
NWOslave
10 years ago

I give. You all win. No woman has ever lied about sexual assault. It’s an MRA fantasy. And if any man has been falsely accused, well fuck him. Death, suicide, prison or homeless. The worlds a better place without him. What we need is more women CEOs, thats a far graver situation. Good day.

Holly
10 years ago

I’m going to bed with a “hells yes” to Johnny Pez.

I’ve been playing around with statistics and metaphors and anecdotes, but the real reason NWOslave will never change his mind is that he doesn’t believe these things because he thinks they’re true. He believes them because it reinforces his hatred and distrust of women, and, very importantly, gives him a way to enable rape with just words!

Every time the “well, you know, women lie” shit gets repeated, it’s another little step toward becoming “common knowledge,” and when it’s “common knowledge,” then rape cases can be thrown out and rape victims harassed, because, well, you know, women lie. And cementing that bullshit is the real goal here.

Johnny Pez
10 years ago

Awwwwwww, Slavey haz a sad!

PosterformerlyknownasElizabeth
PosterformerlyknownasElizabeth
10 years ago

NWOslave, if we post stats you ignore them or deride the source.

So colour me unsurprised that we are not playing your stupid game of “oh well show me one time!” because of the aforementioned reason and 2. because you can do the damn searches yourself you lazy cur.

Johnny Pez
10 years ago

Elizabeth, I think you’re giving Slavey too much credit. He’s not lazy, he’s dishonest.

Captain Bathrobe
Captain Bathrobe
10 years ago

Yeah, I’m going to agree that slavey is objectively pro-rape. Asking Holly to name her rapist counts as one of the biggest dick moves in the history of this blog–and that is saying something.

PosterformerlyknownasElizabeth
PosterformerlyknownasElizabeth
10 years ago

Okay:

You lazy, lying, self righteous, incompetent, illogical, cruel, sleazy, slimy, indecorous, slandering, ill-witted cur.

(is this better Johnny and David, sorry but I just read about his asking about the rapist so I was a wee bit annoyed.)

Johnny Pez
10 years ago

Annoyed is a perfectly reasonable response. So is pissed off. So is the white-hot hatred of a thousand burning suns. Slavey really is a hideous, evil sack of shit.

Captain Bathrobe
Captain Bathrobe
10 years ago

I’m reminded of that George Carlin routine, “Asshole, Jackoff, or Scumbag?”

At first I thought Slavey was a real Jackoff, the kind of guy who’d get drunk and pee in your hat.

Then, he started turning into an Asshole. After a while, he was a complete Asshole.

Then he started in with this rape denial shit, and he became what he is today: a complete and total Scumbag.