Recently, in the comments to my Secret Life as a Group of Women post, our old friend evilwhitemaleempire offered this intriguing theory as to why I started this blog:
Your just a runt.
You put up that picture of Charles Altas so folks will think your not.
Your entire adult life has been about coping with the aggressive sexual displays of bigger, taller, more attractive men by throwing anti-male grenades at them. That’s why your a feminist. … you support the false rape/harassment industry because it acts to jail all those better men you can’t compete with.
You and your mangina ilk are what you have always been since high school. Nerds who think they can win the cheerleader if they can get the football captain jailed as a rapist.
I can’t fault his logic here, though evil here is making several incorrect assumptions that call into question his conclusion. One, I don’t actually support sending innocent men to jail on false rape charges, even if they were the captain of the football team in high school. Two, even in high school, I was never interested in the cheerleader type; as a nerdy alternative-music-loving slacker guy, I was much more interested in the girls who listened to The Jam rather than Journey. Also, the high school I went to was basically a high school for nerds; even the cheerleaders were a little nerdy. We didn’t have a football team; our basketball team was legendary for the length of its losing streak, while our chess team, meanwhile, racked up victory after victory.
But enough about my high school. The key point here is that manosphere dudes have somehow managed to convince themselves, despite massive evidence to the contrary, that sexual attraction is a very simple and straightforward thing: men want cheerleaders and Hooters waitresses; women want jocks and thugs. These are iron-clad rules, and apply to everyone, including the nerdiest of nerds and the feministest of feminists. (By everyone, of course, I mean cis heteros; manosphere dudes have no real theories about lgbt sexuality, and tend to forget it exists.)
So evil assumes that I (and presumably the rest of the feminist guys out there) have adopted feminism as a way to get into the pants of the cheerleaders who wouldn’t date us in high school. On the flip side, manosphere dudes often assume, bizarrely, that feminist women are all secretly obsessed with boning thuggish jocks.
In reality, of course, people tend to be interested in and attracted to people basically like them: gym rats go for gym rats, nerds for nerds, goths for goths, lawyers for lawyers, and so on, and so on, and scooby dooby doo.
To illustrate this point, I’d like to present some relevant anthropological data, in the form of video footage of the “aggressive sexual display” of one “alpha male” of a certain subspecies of homo sapiens. You will notes that this mating dance has attracted the attention of a female of the same type — and not a feminist. Unfortunately, as far as well can tell from the video itself, the dance did not result in successful copulation. In the end, our subject finds himself competing against the aggressive display of another male of the same type.
Random personal observation:
MRAs really like to talk about how disgusting they find fat women, which might lead some women to hope that perhaps if they gain some weight then the MRA/PUAs will stop bothering you. WARNING! THIS IS NOT THE CASE! When I was about 30 pounds overweight, I got more attention from PUAs that I’ve ever gotten while skinny. Their thinking seems to be that if you’re fat girl then you should be thankful to get any attention at all, or perhaps they simply think it’s easier to practice their “negging” techniques on fat girls, but for whatever reason you will find an disproportionate percentage of MRA/PUAs being chubby-chasers. I’m guessing that is why they slag on fat girls so much on their websites…kind of like the closet-case guys who are outrageously homophobic to hide their “shame.”
@thefemalespectator:
MRAs think that the creators of the “Dear Woman” video are the penultimate feminists. They just think that feminists are anybody who holds women in high regard, usually over men. Their view of Gamers (hate the term, confuse it with gaming) is that of female worshippers, and they miss the whole… neurotic hamster? Really? thing.
Of course they take this to the extremes, and of course it turns into a whole big strawman argument. And of course an MRA would never admit to this… *sigh*
Me thinks that the view that MRAL has of David is actually what MRAL is. He seems to be a bit on the young side and frustrated that women do not fall all over him in worship because he has a penis.
I also think he is a secret chubby chaser who cannot admit it because his friends would mock him. To solve that-get new friends who could care less what kind of woman you are with as long as you are happy.
He either will grow out of it or he will not. Hopefully he does.
So how many circuses wander India Avicenna?
Avicenna, some folks to have natural lowlights (opposite of highlights), and some people get them dyed in. But I don’t think black lowlights are a particularly widespread phenomenon amongst “omega” males. Maybe art and design students in NYC…are those omegas?
Ink, no self-respecting MRA- omega or not- fucks a fatty. That’s simply degrading. I would never touch a fat chick, and my options are limited. It would be akin to admitting my worthlessness.
It would be akin to admitting my worthlessness.(mral)
I dont think you need to worry about that, its seems to me you covered that quite a while back. 😉
Do you know what a feminist would call a system in which everyone is forced into reductive roles that cut off their full potential as human beings? That would be patriarchy(TFS)
Im curious, have you ever lived under a system like that?
MRAL, if you learned how to not hate women to the extent that your every statement about them was suffused with blistering contempt, I bet you’d find your options magically expanded.
MRAL:
By all means, stay away from fat women. Every fat woman I know deserves far better than a douchebag who despises their existence. In fact, take it one step further: Stay away from all women until you can be bothered to see us as human beings.
I am almost tempted to tell MRAL to stay away from SexBots too because even they deserve better.
@PosterformerlyknownasElizabeth
Don’t forget body pillows.
I do not hate women. Where the hell do you get that idea?
From the vicious contempt dripping from every word you use to describe any woman and most of the men who live, love and work with them.
Oh, MRAL doesn’t hate WOMEN, nooooo! Just the fat ones! But fat women aren’t REAL women are they? Amirite?
I don’t “hate” fat women. I just find them disgusting and aesthetically unappealing. There’s a distinct difference.
But thats not what you say, is it? That would almost pass as acceptable, if not a bit strong, diverse opinion. No, this is what you say:
“no self-respecting MRA- omega or not- fucks a fatty. That’s simply degrading.”
As soon as you make the leap from “I don’t like” to “nobody should like”, you’ve made the leap from “I have my own tastes” to “I’m a fucking douchebag.”
I’m David’s younger brother. If he’s in his 20’s, how come I remember the 70’s so well?
“I do not hate women. Where the hell do you get that idea?” (MRAL)
Pull the other one!
*stairs blankly*
*looks up reference*
*lols*
MRAL, your attitude: “I don’t hate women, it’s just that women kind of suck! Especially the fat ones, it’s so degrading to date a fat woman because the only thing of any worth a woman has is her looks, and there is only one standard of feminine beauty and fat women are subhuman for not adhering to it.”
I’m starting to understand why, on a call-in show I listen to, the hosts have taken to demanding that the callers at least acknowledge a point that has been made. I don’t know whether MRAL is actually listening to anybody posting here, or if he recognizes that he lost the debate and is slinking away hoping we will forget the fact the next time he shows his face here. Ah well, tis the internets.
Oh, and your comment, “A woman can sit on her ass and get all the dick she wants.” That’s also fairly anti-woman. It’s obvious that you’re conflating ‘getting good sex’ with ‘getting PiV penetration.” Yeah, if all I wanted was some guy to wiggle his dick around in me for a minute, I could totally get laid any time I wanted.
But that certainly wouldn’t be good sex for me. If I had to choose between an ‘alpha’ who just wanted a couple minutes of dick-wiggling and tit-squeezing and a ‘beta’ who was as invested in my pleasure as in his own… I’m going to bed with the beta every single time.
Contemplate that the next time you seethe with envy at the perceived unfairness of the world. Maybe it’s not that the ‘alpha’ is rich or an underwear model… maybe it’s that he’s willing to spend an hour eating her out and loves the look on her face when she climaxes.
MRAL, your statements about the scourge of the ZOMG fat chicks are meaningless until you answer my question (pics are provided in my earlier comment). Is Lizzy Miller (a professional model) too fat for you? Is April Flores (a successful porn star)? At what point does a woman morph from desirable to OMG I WOULD NEVER DEGRADE MYSELF BY TOUCHING THAT FAT FAT FATTY.
The fact that you’re evading the question makes me think that you just slap the descriptor “fat” on any woman who displeases you in some way; and that you’d find an excuse to call Nathalie Portman “fat” if that suited your purpose. (I mean, she probably has a little bulge somewhere, being that she is a human being, who is made of flesh.)
Of course, categorically stating that women of *any* size are unf*ckable is both empirically untrue and completely beneath contempt. But I’d like everyone to see how unrealistic and/or inconsistent your “standards” are.
Lady V, I think I can predict what the Lootenant’s response to that is going to be: “No self-respecting MRA- omega or not- eats pussy. That’s simply degrading. I would never eat a chick’s pussy, and my options are limited. It would be akin to admitting my worthlessness.”
Simple, you’re fat when you’re overweight. What is it, a BMI of 25+? If you’re above that, you have excess weight that you can lose. Thus, you’re fat and an omega.