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So the guys over at MGTOWforums.com – who want nothing to do with women but somehow can’t stop talking about them all day every day – have some interesting theories on why some women like porn so much, sometimes to the point of addiction.
According to the aptly named womanhater, it’s because they’re picking up tips; apparently, the better women fuck, the better they can fuck guys over:
Women (a few exceptions aside) see sex the same way a lumberjack sees a chainsaw – a useful tool. If they’re ‘addicted’ to it then my guess is that they’re in fact just studying it because they know it is their competition and they’d better learn how to do it like the men they hope to manipulate and extort want it. It’s like any other form of physical performance – you get better by watching the professionals. There’s not a man among us whose swing wouldn’t improve if we spent several hours a day watching professional golfers.
True, at least that bit about golf. Based on my admittedly limited exposure to her work, I’m not sure that all the skills that one can learn from watching Sasha Grey necessarily translate all that well to non-gang-bang situations.
Zuberi, meanwhile, suspects that women watch porn just to spite men:
Are they really addicted to porn or are they desperately trying to keep up with the sheer number of men who watch porn? Are these harpies so insecure that they have to overtake men in everything? It’s pathetic. There’s already a number of women who are drinking themselves retarded trying to keep up with men that they think are power drinkers.
But are they really watching all the porn they say they’re watching? Shade47 is suspicious:
When women look at porn they see pixels on a screen. Just some more attention whoring from women looking for a new angle to reel men in.Almsot every trashy girl Ive met claims to be into porn but when you look at her internet history its all retarded girl games on flash websites and shit. You know they arent covering their tracks by deleting browser history because that would involve understanding computers.
Damn these computer-illiterate, flash-game-loving, only-pretending-to-like-porn slatterns!
AC101202, by contrast, is convinced that a lot of women actually do love porn, or at least the more nasty and degrading parts of it – “facials, ass in the air, DP etc.” Why? Evolutionary Psych 101, dude! Because their reptilian cave-lady brains just love gangbangs:
Pre-civilization, women thousands of years ago spent their days getting nailed by dozens of guys. We all know here a majority of women have rape fantasies …Women who are managers, in positions of power, probably get off most watching degrading actions performed on women. Their lower reptilian brain likes seeing women treated like sex objects, since the women who reproduced best were the one’s who learned to enjoy gangbanging.
Now, I’m no evolutionary psych expert, but, er, what exactly is the evolutionary advantage of facials? I’m pretty sure you can’t get pregnant from semen on your forehead, in your eyes or, say, up your nose. (At least I never have.) Perhaps someone better schooled in evo psych and the general evil of women could explain that to me.
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>Also, men with their shirts off are available in many mainstream publicationsOr any randomly chosen episode of the original Star Trek.
>"If men like to look at porn and fill in the text and women like to read porn and fill in the pictures, whats the big deal?"If it's not a big deal, why do you need so badly to believe it? Nothing good will come of you telling women what they do and do not like – seems to me you'd have little way of knowing.
>If men like to look at porn and fill in the text and women like to read porn and fill in the pictures, whats the big deal?The big deal. That truth matters, and this just isn't true. Statements like "Men like X and women like Y" just aren't. There's more diversity within each group than there is between the groups. Men and women are different and no amount of social engineering will change this, and nothing good will come of it. Men and women are indeed different (see above for caveat about differences within the group exceeding those between the groups). So why are you trying to social engineer us? Stop trying to tell me what I like.
>Law, I'm not telling women what to like or not like. You're denying the reality of what women like and don't like. You're trying to change people into something their not, I'm content to leave well enough alone.
>Sallystrange, when you said, "There's more diversity within each group than there is between the groups."Well thats wrong, there is no way there is more diversity within groups of men and women as opposed to men and women. This is reality denial and social engineering.
>> What NWOslave is doing here is being a trollNo, he's being trolled by DesertRose.But let's not all troll at once. We can take turns.
>"Law, I'm not telling women what to like or not like."You are telling them what they do and do not like as if it's some kind of fact. Nothing of the kind! And I can only imagine the motivation behind your desperate need to peg men and women into some sort of predetermined gender roles."You're denying the reality of what women like and don't like."There is no such thing as "what women like". The only fact that makes a difference is what each individual woman prefers.
>NWO, I'm going to try and explain it to you okay?1. on women and porn:some women like written porn, some like visual porn, some like both, and some like neither one. Women aren't a monolith. We are people who each have different opinions and desires.2. on desert rose's comment:no that is not misandry because she is paroding (albeit not well) the tropes that the mra's think women ascribe to3. on watching porn as a masturbatory aid:there is nothing inherently wrong with mastubating regardless of whether or not one uses porn or not4. on mismatched libidos:each individual couple gets to decide when and how often they have sex. Now if partner a would rather watch porn and masturbate than have sex with parnter b and that is not okay with partner b than partner b is justified in ending the relationship. The genders of both (or more as the case may be) partners involved is irrelevant. If you are in a sexual/romantic relationship and something changes in the libido or desire of one or more partners that is unacceptable to those involved they can choose to break off that relationship and pursue one in which they are more comfortableDoes all of this make sense? If not I will try to explain it again in a different way
>Oh, boy. Reading through NWO's contributions to the, er, discussion here I couldn't help but think of Bill Pullman in this famous scene in Ruthless People:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqUZ04UWRk4
>Sallystrange, when you said, "There's more diversity within each group than there is between the groups."Well thats wrong, there is no way there is more diversity within groups of men and women as opposed to men and women. This is reality denial and social engineering. O RLY? I have scads of historical and scientific data backing up my position. Don't you worry, I'll provide it. But first, what do you have? Please, tell us what evidence has led you to believe that men and women are so very different from each other, that those differences eclipse the amazing amount of variation we find in personality, taste, sexual preference, politics, intelligence, etc. between individuals within a gender. The onus is on you, buddy. It's time to put up or shut up. And don't whine about my evidence. Don't WORRY about my evidence. I've got it, just not right at my fingertips. It'll take me a while to assemble it all because I'm about to leave, and also because there is so MUCH evidence, it'll be hard to decide which bits to post. So, where's your evidence? We are all on tenterhooks here.
>Okay, let me see if I can sort this out.First, NWO argues that all women are identical to each other, as well as that all men are identical to each other, because people's personalities are determined entirely by biology AND NOTHING ELSE. Hell, not even by biology, but solely by gender.Next, NWO suggests that because people's personalities are set in stone by gender AND NOTHING ELSE, such things as social conditioning and societal pressure (i.e. social engineering) are totally irrelevant and have no impact on what people like or dislike, or what they tell others they like or dislike.Next, NWO complains about social engineering supposedly interfering with biology. What are you so worried about, NWO? If social engineering is absolutely incapable to make even a dent in someone's supposedly hard-wired preferences, I really don't see why you are so opposed to it.
>Amused, you could figure all that out? I'm impressed. You make him sound so cogent.
>NWOI don't like porn at all. It's fake and frankly boring. I'd much rather read erotica of I was so inclined.Until this moment I was quite sure I was a man but I guess I'm not. (please take my comments literally to mean that I have changed sex)P.S Regarding your math skills. I was the one who stated you had none. It was in response to you declaring that taxes would have to triple in order for men to receive the same services as women. Please explain that.Also explain to us how you can be here all day and still work a 17 hour day?I'm semi-retired son, this is my favorite internet site and the only one I regularly post on and I still only get the chance to post now and again. Either you are sitting on a computer at work (which was my original point, that desk jockeys really shouldn't be complaining about dangerous jobs), or your math skills are very bad. Which one is it?
>Oh my God you dumbfuck.*slams head on keyboard*aiodf;hsjkgfghdjhgIt has already been explained with more patience than I've got (thanks sallystrange) but I find it interesting that you ask if it's misandry. Let's say it wasn't satire. Let's say I wasn't merely pointing out that this is what a feminist would sound like if she were to be as much of a sexist dumbfuck as an MRA. Let's say I really believed all that shit I typed.Why the fuck do you feel I owe you an answer of whether or not it's misandry, when you refuse to EVER admit that the shit Dave quotes on here, the shit of which I just made a parody, is misogyny?YES, you idiot–if I believed it it would be misandry. But I don't. I was parodying. Your MRA pals, however, believe all the sexist shit they type. They are not parodying. And that is why they are misogynistic douchebags. K? K.
>Ok here ya go the most up to date differences in the brains of men and women. Oh and they are massive differences. But really it means nothing because……….if you feel it isn't so you'll simply deny the facts.http://www.boysadrift.com/2007Giedd.pdf
>I gave you, in this forum, what you'd give us in yours.Eat it, bitch.
>Heres just a bit more infoIn adults, the average brain weight in men is about 11-12% MORE than the average brain weight in womenmen have 4% more brain cells than women , and about 100 grams more of brain tissue. this may explain why women are more prone to dementiawhile men have more neurons in the cerebral cortex, women have a more developed neuropil, or the space between cell bodies, which contains synapses, dendrites and axons, and allows for communication among neurons .Inferior parietal lobule (IPL): it is a brain region in the cortex, which is significantly larger in men than in women. This area is bilateral and is located just above the level of the ears (parietal cortex). Furthermore, the left side IPL is larger in men than the right side. In women, this asymmetry is reversed, although the difference between left and right sides is not so large as in men. This is the same area which was shown to be larger in the brain of Albert Einstein, as well as in other physicists and mathematicians. So, it seems that IPL's size correlates highly with mental mathematical abilities. Studies have linked the right IPL with the memory involved in understanding and manipulating spatial relationships and the ability to sense relationships between body parts. It is also related to the perception of our own affects or feelings. The left IPL is involved with perception of time and speed, and the ability of mentally rotate 3-D figures .Limbic size: females, on average, have a larger deep limbic system than males. This gives females several advantages and disadvantages. Due to the larger deep limbic brain women are more in touch with their feelings, they are generally better able to express their feelings than men. They have an increased ability to bond and be connected to others . Females have a more acute sense of smell, which is likely to have developed from an evolutionary need for the mother to recognize her young. Having a larger deep limbic system leaves a female somewhat more susceptible to depression, especially at times of significant hormonal changes such as the onset of puberty, before menses, after the birth of a child and at menopause. Women attempt suicide three times more than men. Yet, men kill themselves three times more than womenSo when I say men and women a more different than men are to men and women to women. Well I say that because it true. I don't deny reality, do you?
>Did you even read that paper? All it essentially says is that boys and girls are different sizes and therefore have different sized brains and may develop at different paces.But – "Differences in brain size between males and females should not be interpreted as implying any sort of functional advantage or disadvantage." Boys have a penis, girls have a vagina!
>Well DesertRose it seems due to you biology you expressed your feelings by calling me a sexist dumbfuck. Apparently one of the disadvantages of having a deep limbic system is the lack of emotional control when someone disagrees with you. But of course you'll tell me it has nothing to do with biology even though it is female biology that has dictated your reaction. Weird huh?
>NWO why are you talking about men and women when the study was clearly about boys and girls? They were discussing how to keep data in studies consistent longitudinally without defaulting to the generic "8-10%" and instead keeping age and development clearly in the picture as important factors for studies going forward.They clearly state that the study is of adolescents on the first page, and they also make clear that mass should not imply functionality.
>Again Law you deny relity if you actually read the paper with the corresponding graphs no one thinking critically could deny the massive differences. Not only in "when" developement takes place but how far and when developement tapers off. But of course you didn't read the paper, you couldn't have read and grasped the entire paper in the 11 minutes since I posted it until you hit return on your post. You simply will not admit the huge differences between men and women. Quite honestly, this only reinforces you unwilligness to admit reality if it runs counter to feminist ideology. Your "feelings" trump scientific facts.
>Well NWOslave it seems due to you(sic) biology you shoved aside your pointedly embarrassing incomprehension by swerving past the points. Apparently one of the disadvantages of having comparatively high levels of testosterone is the inability to keep your pride from clouding your reason when someone points out what a sexist dumbfuck you are. But of course you'll tell me it has everything to do with biology even though you'd probably still be as much of a dumbfuck if you were a woman. Weird huh?
>Her reaction has nothing to do with her biology. Don't blame your bad behavior on her.Notice how none of the factors listed on the home page includes feminism, BTW.
>Lets look at the Inferior parietal lobule, which is substantially larger in men than women. This is the area of the brain used for math, 3d spacial rotation, moving thru time and space.This is the reason why men have invented virtually all art, music, philosophy, inventions, ect. There was never any oppression that held women back from doing these thing. Men are just really good at it. But instead of admitting this and saying hey thats great this really helped everyone out, you'll make up some false reality of women being oppressed.
>NWO, Law provided a direct quote. Can you please illustrate, with quotes from the paper, how that quote is clearly out of context and inaccurate? That's the scientific rebuttal. Otherwise you're reacting just as "emotionally" or more so.