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Donald Duck was evidently a Duck Going His Own Way. This Disney cartoon from 1954 pretty much sums up, in 7 short minutes, every single discussion on every MGTOW message board ever, right down to the little jokes about Daisy riding what we might call the “bad boy duck cock carousel.”
This is quite literally how MGTOWer’s see the world, except for the part about everyone being a duck. (Oh, and that Donald doesn’t blame modern feminism for Daisy’s behavior, as it didn’t actually exist in 1954.)
Thanks, I guess, to the fellows on MGTOWforums.com for finding this.
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>because god forbid men should do housework amirite?
>(Oh, and that Donald doesn’t blame modern feminism for Daisy’s behavior, as it didn’t actually exist in 1954.)Oh, that's what you think, David. Feminists have been running the world all along. It's only in the past century that they've finally gotten men beaten down enough to come out of the closet*.*Gay reference intentional, because feminists are all lesbians.
>If you bothered to do in-depth research on MGTOW positions instead of just mining the comment sections for quotes that fit your prejudices, you would see that we don't just blame feminism and also regard pre-feminist society as also being a raw deal for men, except for the tiny elite. Feminism took what was already a lopsided deal for women and just made it even better for women and even worse for men.That's why the whole "reactionary bullshit" charge falls flat; we don't yearn for the 1950s or any other time in history. We're trying to create a new system, not revive an old one.
>also regard pre-feminist society as also being a raw deal for men, except for the tiny eliteAnd the massive historical ignorance you display every time you make this claim is a source of unending amusement, I assure you.
>Your refusal to actually back up anything you say with evidence is a source of unending amusement for me, rest assured.
>okay cold. Give us the list of the mgtow ideology. Prove to us that david is wrong and you aren't arguing for a return to the 1950's
>Cold, but I was right about the duck thing, right?
>You're right that he could be considered a duck going his own way, yes. The fact that our grievances were recognized back in 1954, however, proves that we are not motivated by any kind of reactionary 1950s nostalgia.
>So instead you guys were motivated by the tyranny of mowing the lawn and the trauma of seeing your wife without makeup?
>It's JUST LIKE BEING RAPED!
>I see that I'm being ignored. Hmm… guess david is right after all and the MGTOW don't actually want anything other than to go back to the days when they could be abusive misogynists and no one cared
>Yeah, I gotta agree with some previous comments.This is without a doubt, your lamest post yet.Feminism has been around way before the 1950's.Feminism is not the only factor to blame for the current state of western women.However, feminism has been a very negative influence on the current state of western women.Excellent display of your ignorance sir!This is the kind of intellectual philosophy I would expect from somebody who gets all their information from trash talk shows like Dr. Phil and Oprah.Go play some more video games you shut-in.
>It proves that this whole MGTOW thing on the Internet has always been around way before you “feminist haters” (meaning any woman with her own opinion who won’t have sex with you) got together to bitch together.It proves that it didn't take feminism for "that kind of a guy" to want a woman sexually but not want them as a partner or a friend. Did the duck ever have a real conversation with the duckette? Get to know her as a person?It proves you are really nothing new Cold. You are simply just someone who can lust and call it love (I’d guess it happened in your teens once) and get rather pissed when your "love " is not meet in kind. There is nothing new under the sun.Have you ever loved someone Cold? I’m guessing you have and probably from afar. When she didn’t love you back you needed to blame both her and everyone… hence you became involved in bashing women on the Internet. It’s been a vicious circle for you.
>Cold says this:Feminism took what was already a lopsided deal for women and just made it even better for women and even worse for men.Followed by this:Your refusal to actually back up anything you say with evidence is a source of unending amusement for me, rest assured. I think no more really need be said here.
>@Kave – nice projection. Watch movies on it much?@Capt Bathroom"I think no more really need be said here"Well poot. I good not of said it butter.
>Well done, Scarecrow. If you can't beat 'em, at least leave 'em scratching their heads in utter confusion.
>Cold, I never said that MGTOWers want a return to the 50s. As for the duck thing, I just wanted to make sure that I was correct in saying that you guys don't think we're all ducks. I would hate to be wrong about something like that.
>Actually those words were meant to be a link to a YouTube video but the link didn't appear. Here's where it was supposed to go:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1blFCznAtwYou can skip ahead to 3:30 in the video which the beginning of a section called "A Short History of Male Privilege" where RamzPaul sarcastically addresses the ridiculous notion that men(apart from a small elite) had it better than women prior to modern feminism.
>I see that I'm being ignored.If you asked me to do your math homework for you I'd also ignore you. Our literature is available for free online if you are actually motivated to take it upon yourself to learn about us. You could start by reading the articles on A Voice For Men and Menz Magazine, or if videos are more you think you can view the manwomanmyth and johntheother channels on YouTube.
>Scarecrow, could you clarify who your initial post was aimed at? Maybe I'm just tired, but I can't tell if you're talking to David or Cold.That being said, as long as we're posting old disney cartoons, this a pretty great "misguided Donald Duck" one about how tax evasion harms the war effort. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xphiYdfd-Tg
>Your refusal to actually back up anything you say with evidence is a source of unending amusement for me, rest assured.Usually I don't cite sources when I claim, for example, that most people have two thumbs. Just because I'm talking to someone who stubbornly claims that most people have three thumbs doesn't mean my statement of obvious fact is suddenly controversial.
>@tri, don't you know women only exist amoung the upperclass? (Please ignore that reality is obviously to the contrary).
>@tri, don't you know women only exist amoung the upperclass?Ah yes, good point. Since our MRA friends are kind enough to inform us that every woman in all of history was a housewife who sat on her ass while her husband slaved away to buy nice things for her, we must assume that these and these and these are all mythical creatures. The last one is a photograph, so I suppose it's a fake, like a photo of Nessie or Bigfoot.
>Addendum: Manboobz has, more than any other blog, made me realize how much the MRM is steeped in class privilege as much as gender privilege. When MRAs talk about people in the past, you can be pretty certain that they're actually only talking about upper-class people. This is an easy mistake to make when looking at history – almost all of the educated people before the 20th century were rich, so they did most of the writing, so most of the narratives from previous centuries are about the upper class. So there's a natural bias there.It's interesting, because I don't think that the MRM is overwhelmingly upper-class. But that makes sense – if an upper-class man is incredibly sexist, he can find gold diggers to satisfy his desire for personality-free pussy. Lower- and middle-class men who are incredibly sexist have a harder time because they can't use money to compensate for their contempt for women.
>The most astonishing thing in the movie is that Donald's nightmare about marriage with Daisy is just that… a nightmare. It has no basis in reality whatsoever, but it's all about Donald's anxiety. There is no proof that Daisy could actually act that way at all. In short, the MGTOW are admitting that their only problem is their fear of commitment and intimacy, and that they're projecting it on the women in their lives.They might as well start a website to argue that planes are evil because they crash ALL THE TIME, spam everyone with links to newspaper articles about plane crashes, and insult everyone who tries to tell them that you're more likely to die in a car crash than in a plane crash… all that because they're scared of heights. Gentlemen, if you don't want the nightmare scenarios that you're always talking about to come true, there's a very simple solution: don't be an idiot. There are hundreds of websites and books dedicated to the signs that the person you're dating is abusive and will do you wrong. Just learn to be a good judge of character (it's not that hard) and if you don't want to marry someone, just don't propose (or say no if she does).