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Donald Duck was evidently a Duck Going His Own Way. This Disney cartoon from 1954 pretty much sums up, in 7 short minutes, every single discussion on every MGTOW message board ever, right down to the little jokes about Daisy riding what we might call the “bad boy duck cock carousel.”

This is quite literally how MGTOWer’s see the world, except for the part about everyone being a duck. (Oh, and that Donald doesn’t blame modern feminism for Daisy’s behavior, as it didn’t actually exist in 1954.)

Thanks, I guess, to the fellows on MGTOWforums.com for finding this.

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Hide and Seek
9 years ago

>e-string:I think you're mistaken, you seem to think that things are the way they are for a reason and that someone sometime in the past sat down and figured out how things would work best, and that we should trust that imagined person and not change what they decided.Really, people in the past were just stumbling along and trying to do the best they could, just like we are now. There is no reason to believe they had any special knowledge, and if you survey the results of the system that their ideas has evolved into, there is every reason to think that we could build something just as good or better. We could build a system that harms fewer people, and does not choose who is harmed by random things like skin color or gender or sexual orientation or even by how much money they have or their parents had. My point is this: If enough people decide to live differently, who knows what the future could look like.

JFP
JFP
9 years ago

>David, you should write a post about relatively high-profile MRA, Roy Den Hollander's appearance on the Colbert Report last night. Hollander didn't disappoint in bringing the delusional misogyny, pettiness and face-palm worthy rhetoric we've come to know and laugh our arses off at: http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/379605/march-31-2011/difference-makers—roy-den-hollander

Captain Bathrobe
9 years ago

>e-string wrote:This just in – your BFF Jill who associates with feminists and is "into statistical methodology" thinks "The Bell Curve is crap." Actually, I met him in graduate school. He's a policy analyst now, I believe. Also, implying that I'm some sort of Big Girly Man isn't really that effective an insult. Since I don't regard women as inferior, comparing me to them doesn't really sting in quite the way you apparently hoped it would. Better luck next time.In any event, the methodological problems in the The Bell Curve are old, old news. In fact, the Wikipedia article that you suggested I go read has a link at the bottom to an article critiquing those very methods. You may want to check it our sometime–if you're not too busy posting links to the "You Will Not Shame Me" blog post. Seriously, how many times have you posted that one here? 5? 6? And don't get me started on the YouTube link to that smirking douchebag reading from Steven Pinker. Gah, that's several minutes of my life I'll never get back. I'm still trying to recover from the psychological trauma. Never Again, I say.Are you sure you're in a Ph. D. program? You seem to have a lot of time on your hands…

Captain Bathrobe
9 years ago

>Trip wrote:So was I. Was there a point to this non-sequitur or have you just been waiting all night for an opportunity to drop this fact?Some us were in those programs back when they were called "MGM"–mentally gifted minors. The other kids called us the "giftees" as if it were some sort of insult. Good times, good times…And you know what? That and a buck fifty will get me a cup of coffee (though not at Starbucks, apparently). I long ago realized that what I do with my brains is a lot more important than the fact that I have them. Sure, IQ matters–but so do people skills, compassion, and morality. I like what I do, and I like myself for doing it, which is far, far more important to me than earning a few thousand more a year (though that definitely has its appeal, especially now that I have kids). I also like that I'm in a relationship that places a premium on equal roles and equal work. Is it perfect? Hell, no–but I wouldn't have it any other way.

Sam
Sam
9 years ago

>I'm disappointed that this entire IQ pissing contest has gone on so long without anoyone dropping numbers. Bathrobe, e-l0ng2t3dname, lay down those scores so I know whose arguments to believe!

Captain Bathrobe
9 years ago

>I'm disappointed that this entire IQ pissing contest has gone on so long without anoyone dropping numbers. Bathrobe, e-l0ng2t3dname, lay down those scores so I know whose arguments to believe! Ha ha! You should believe mine, but only because I am morally superior in every way. String may make more money (eventually), but I'm goddam Mother Teresa compared to him–and don't you forget it! :)Actually, I kind of wish I hadn't gone there, as the whole thing is puerile in the extreme. I pre-emptively concede the IQ contest to String and Trip (and whoever else)–they are free to slug it out however they see fit. May I suggest Wechslers at ten paces?

Elizabeth
9 years ago

>Mine tested at 165, but I always do very well on exams so I have no idea if that is a true reflection or not.

Captain Bathrobe
9 years ago

>Mine tested at 165, but I always do very well on exams so I have no idea if that is a true reflection or not.Then I kneel before you. Of course, I would anyway, if only for the bacon.

Elizabeth
9 years ago

>It is fresh and crispy today.

Captain Bathrobe
9 years ago

>Fresh, crispy bacon from a smart woman is just the way I like it. ;)Hmmm…that looks a bit creepier than I meant it to be. Oh well. 🙂

Amused
9 years ago

>E-string's comment about Asians and IQ scores reminded me of a horrid book that came out recently, Battle Hymn of the Tiger Mother whose author smugly recounts how a strict regimen of concentration camp-style discipline, emotional abuse and complete isolation has helped her daughters achieve high grades and to master musical instruments. The author, Amy Chua, states that she herself was raised in a similar atmosphere, and that this kind of upbringing helped her get into the best schools and eventually become a law professor at Yale. But there is a comment somewhere in that book that's very telling: she muses how, when she was a student at an Ivy League law school, she didn't care about analysis or pro's and con's or the rights of individuals the way everyone else seemed to; she just wanted to memorize everything in the book.So here's the thing: It's possible to achieve vast improvements in one's test scores, including IQ scores, through ruthless training, but the authoritarian environment necessary to accomplish this stifles creativity and makes the subject less capable of thinking outside the given parameters. Quite often, unfortunately, high IQ scores and test grades mean that the individual is highly capable at learning a specific set of complex tasks, but he may lack the gift for innovation, which is what's really important. I think a fairly accurate definition of intelligence is ability to solve novel problems, that don't fit a known formula. The IQ test doesn't evaluate that.

DarkSideCat
9 years ago

>@Sam "I'm disappointed that this entire IQ pissing contest has gone on so long without anoyone dropping numbers" Well, as I am arguing for the side that opposes the proposition that IQ tests are good objective measurements, essentially saying that the score is a relatively bullshit number, giving said number actually undermines my point regardless of my score.

David Futrelle
9 years ago

>JFP, your wish is granted! Thanks for the url.

David Futrelle
9 years ago

>The Tiger Mother really needs to hook up with Charlie ("tiger blood") Sheen, so they can breed some Tiger Children. Winning!

e4919700-4d45-11e0-bbf3-000bcdcb8a73

>Are you sure you're in a Ph. D. program? You seem to have a lot of time on your hands… I combine my writing time with my exercise time using an exercise bike and a desk, and I exercise a lot. So yes, in a manner of speaking, I do have a lot of time on my hands to write.

triplanetary
9 years ago

>Rather than supplying a number, I'll only repeat what I've said before: I'm a privileged-ass motherfucker. The reason I want to tear down existing cultural norms isn't because I'm on the losing end of them.That being said, those who are on the losing end of them have every right to want to tear them down for that reason, and accusing them of simply envy is idiotic.

Captain Bathrobe
9 years ago

>e4919700-4d45-11e0-bbf3-000bcdcb8a73 said… Are you sure you're in a Ph. D. program? You seem to have a lot of time on your hands… I combine my writing time with my exercise time using an exercise bike and a desk, and I exercise a lot. So yes, in a manner of speaking, I do have a lot of time on my hands to write.Hmmm…actually, that sounds like a pretty good set up.

evilwhitemalempire
9 years ago

>Brett K"Ooh, I'm so offended… oh, wait, Im just acknowledging the fact that IQ is an imperialist social construct with little bearing on reality."So just how badly did you score?Elizabeth "Mine tested at 165, but I always do very well on exams so I have no idea if that is a true reflection or not."Tell me another joke. Captain Flasher"I like what I do, and I like myself for doing it, which is far, far more important to me than earning a few thousand more a year (though that definitely has its appeal, especially now that I have kids)."Heh. It'll appeal to you a lot more if she ever decides to take you to the cleaners pal. tricommunist "I'll only repeat what I've said before: I'm a privileged-ass motherfucker. The reason I want to tear down existing cultural norms isn't because I'm on the losing end of them."It's because you think that by tearing them down there will be unisex bathrooms and thus a chance for you to loose your virginity."You're right, prejudice and bias never, ever get in the way of rational economic thinking. Those great, rational, hyper-intelligent Galtian businessman are all calculating, profit-maximizing machines."Nice try. We've all had bosses, supervisors, etc. and we all know the drill here. Business leaders ARE greedy ass mother fuckers who only care about one thing and it ain't oppressing females.e4919700-4d45-11e0-bbf3-000bcdcb8a73 "Because their men what?I think that is supposed to be "they're," as in "they are men." "You might as well get used to this.Feminists are quite skilled at refuting the content of arguments by pointing out spelling, punctuation errors, etc. Same way they use the movies to prove that women can beat us up.

triplanetary
9 years ago

>Nice try. We've all had bosses, supervisors, etc. and we all know the drill here. Business leaders ARE greedy ass mother fuckers who only care about one thing and it ain't oppressing females.Of course they're greedy. But that's never a person's sole motivation – people are more complicated than that. And trust me, if there's one group in this society that's 100%, unfailingly rational, it's not businessmen.But you must be right. After all, if I were right, there would be examples in the past of business owners turning away potential profit by banning customers of a certain race or something. But that would be crazy.

DarkSideCat
9 years ago

>I usually just skip and ignore EWMs comments at this point, but I must say that, tri, should you ever in fact host a unisex bathroom orgy, count me in.Related sidenote: I always use the unisex bathroom on my campus, but the only bathroom sex I have had was in a women's bathroom. Must be doing something wrong…

SallyStrange
9 years ago

>Unisex bathrooms –> Tri loses virginity uh??I mean, what's the connection? "I hear you pissing in there, you have NO IDEA how HOT you're making me!" Leads to some disturbing questions about EWM's ideas concerning getting laid…

SallyStrange
9 years ago

>Business leaders ARE greedy ass mother fuckers who only care about one thing and it ain't oppressing females.In a sexist society, all you have to do to oppress women is not care or not pay attention. It takes effort to avoid being sexist. Just like it takes effort to avoid being racist, classist, ablist, etc. Equality runs against the grain of this society.

Rachel Swirsky
9 years ago

>girlscientist:I really hope you never have the opportunity to see your theory proved incorrect.

Captain Bathrobe
9 years ago

>Captain Flasher"I like what I do, and I like myself for doing it, which is far, far more important to me than earning a few thousand more a year (though that definitely has its appeal, especially now that I have kids)."Heh. It'll appeal to you a lot more if she ever decides to take you to the cleaners pal.Considering that she makes more money than I, it seems unlikely.

triplanetary
9 years ago

>Considering that she makes more money than I, it seems unlikely.You must be mistaken. Women don't work for their money, they marry up and take half their husband's money.Are you sure she isn't whiting out one of the digits on your paycheck in an attempt to subjugate her? Women are tricky like that.

triplanetary
9 years ago

>subjugate you*

Captain Bathrobe
9 years ago

>triplanetary said… Considering that she makes more money than I, it seems unlikely. You must be mistaken. Women don't work for their money, they marry up and take half their husband's money. Are you sure she isn't whiting out one of the digits on your paycheck in an attempt to subjugate her? Women are tricky like that.No, it's because I'm a great big mangina, don't you know? Feminism has impoverished me and muddled up my brain. Mark my words, before long I'll be tearing my hair and gnashing my teeth, wondering why o why did I not listen to EWME and his ilk…Oh, wait, no I won't.

Captain Bathrobe
9 years ago

>Re: unisex bathrooms, my university had them in the dorms, and it was the opposite of sexy. Somehow seeing my bleary-eyed hall mates brushing their teeth in the morning was not as boner-inducing as EWME would imagine.

girlscientist
9 years ago

>@Rachel Swirsky:I worked for a sexually/morally harassing paranoid narcissist for over three years. I did see the warning signs and I felt something was off from the beginning, but I chose to ignore it. I also have friends who have been in abusive relationships and the feeling from the start that something if wrong and that the relationship is too good to be true is very common. Once you come out of the relationship you start thinking things over and you realise you should have listened to your instincts. I'm no big fan of de Becker's, but he is absolutely right on that one. Again, it's not the abused person's fault that nobody has taken the time to tell them that, and there is no way you can defend yourself against an abuser's blitzkrieg if you're not armed with a strong sense of self and of your boundaries. Naiveté should never be considered as an invitation for cruelty. But once you've been made aware of the necessity of the lesson, it's not so difficult to learn.

girlscientist
9 years ago

>@Rachel Swirsky:P.S.: Before an idea is proven or disproven, it's called a hypothesis, not a theory. If you don't know the meaning of a word, don't use it.

Rachel Swirsky
9 years ago

>That's right, girlscientist. Language is probably absent of all contextual slippage, and it is definitely more offensive to use culturally acceptable connotations in casual conversation than it is to opine randomly without any recourse to, I dunno, the academic scholarship on the subject.