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Sometimes this job is just too easy. Sometimes I don’t have to even bother to check in on my favorite manosphere sites to find hair-raisingly awful quotes to feature here. Sometimes the Boobz are thoughtful enough to leave them in the comments here.
Take this quote from resident MGTOWer Cold, who currently seems to be spending more time on this blog than I am, comparing rape and child support. (You don’t think these two items are actually in any way comparable? Clearly you do not understand Boob Logic.)
In response to commenter Amused, who pointed out that “being ordered to support a child you’ve fathered isn’t the same as being pinned down and penetrated against your will,” Cold responded:
Exactly, it’s much, much worse. The latter lasts for some number of minutes, the former for at least 18 years. Given the choice it would be a no-brainer for me, and I think a very large number of men agree with me on this.
Setting aside the appalling trivialization of rape as something that’s over in “some number of minutes,” what does this say about Cold’s attitudes towards children? Paying a couple of hundred buck a month to pay for some of the expenses for a child you fathered – your own flesh and blood – is worse than being raped?
If Cold ever becomes a father, through circumstances which are frankly too horrible to imagine, I feel safe in saying that he will not be winning any “father of the year” awards.
I can just imagine the following scenario, some 11 or so years into the future:
EXTERIOR, MOVIE THEATER
Cold’s 10-year-old son: Happy Father’s day, daddy! I’m so glad we’re going to see Toy Story 5! I love Woody!
Cold: Yeah, so does your whore mom, if you know what I mean.
Son: Huh?
Cold: When you get older, you’ll understand. Did I mention that you mom’s a whore? One, please!
Son: Um, daddy, why did you buy only one ticket?
Cold: It’s for me. Get your own. You get enough of my money as it is. I stick my dick in your mom for two fucking minutes, and I’m screwed for life. It’s worse than rape!
Son: Um, daddy, I don’t have any money. I’m ten.
Cold: Well, you should have thought of that when you were a sperm!
Son: When I was a what?
Cold: I’m going in. See you in two hours.
Son: Dad? What am I supposed to do now?
Cold: Not my problem! I’m Going Galt! I’m Going My Own Way! You were a MISTAKE!
Son quietly sobs
Cold: Hey, when we get back to your mom’s place later, remind me to tell her she’s a filthy whore.
And … scene!
(By the way, Cold actually does claim to be going Galt, if self-admitted tax evasion counts.)
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>Now there's a movie I'd see. I bet it would be better than Sucker Punch.
>Wow those MRA's are crazy Boobz. I heard one of them once compared children to "invaders" and said that it was okay to KILL your children if they interfered with your "liberty".Oh wait, that wasn't a MRA. That was a tenured feminist professor.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Defense_of_Abortion
>The argument makes sense if you consider that many MRA type dudes don't see much in the way of self-identification beyond their own monetary value. Hurt my wallet, hurt me.
>Hey Yandie! I didn't know you read Manboobz. Small world. :)Billy Ray– Well, I sure as fuck have the right to remove an unwanted presence from my own personal body. Bodily autonomy is inviolable. You have a right to an abortion the same as you have the right to not donate one of your kidneys– even though you don't need it, it would save a life, and it is way less strenuous than a pregnancy.
>Uhm, what is GALT?
>Scarecrow, I think you mean "Who is John Galt?" It's from a book some lady wrote.
>Galt is a company in Arizona that does payday loans (or did until that law expired.)
>"Going Galt" is removing your productive capacity from society in the hopes this will lead it to topple and be replaced with a society more to your liking, based on Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand.
>@billy, I suspect you have never read Jarvis-Thomson's actual paper. It is available online in full here http://spot.colorado.edu/~heathwoo/Phil160,Fall02/thomson.htm
>I tell you what, this gentleman has colored my perception of all Phoenix Wright cosplayers.
>Basically, going Galt is the adult version of going home and taking your ball with you. Only less effective.
>But David, you "cherry picked" that quote!
>Hey Oz, yeah, I'm a new reader 🙂
>This is a shameful article David Futrelle. You have literally called this man a poor father, a lout, loser and scum of the earth in a fictional future conversation.Bravo, well done. Be sure to twitter all your friends to show them the how fair and equal they'll be treated.
>Cold was the one who said supporting children is rape. David just imagined the comedy that would come from such a belief.
>Yandie, stick around! This place is the best for stress-relieving screaming-at-teh-st00pids.Speaking of–NWOslave, he just said that child support is worse than rape. That's right: he said that paying a couple hundred a month is worse than a crime that makes some women have flashbacks and intimacy issues and nightmares and sobbing YEARS later. Rape is the ultimate dehumanization, and the lack of empathy it takes to not get that shows that he is a lout, loser and scum of the earth– no mocking required.
>Oh I also like how he misses that you cannot choose to be raped over paying support. If you choose it is no longer rape.What he's saying is he would prostitute himself to get out of paying support. And frankly, most people's prostitution price is probably lower than the sum total of 18 years of child support.
>No he didn't Sandy, he maliciously attacked someone who did NOT say supporting children is rape. I've read what he said. He said it was as bad as rape, as in being financially raped while being denied the "right" to equal custody, instead of the "right" to pay for a child or be incarcerated.
>Tell me the Bradley Ammendment if fair.A veteran of the first Gulf War who was captured in Kuwait in 1990 and spent nearly five months as an Iraqi hostage being arrested the night after his release for not paying child support while he was a hostage. In other words right now there may be US soldiers in Afganistan as captives. They risk death and their reward is if his wife divorces him while captive he will be incarcerated if he escapes alive.A Virginia man required to pay retroactive child support even though DNA tests proved that he could not have been the father. "The 1986 Bradley Amendment to Title IV-D forbids any reduction of arrearage or retroactive reduction for any reason, ever. This reinforces the approach that inability to pay is no excuse. Needless to say, there are endless stories of men who are now crushed by a debt they will never be able to pay because they were:In a coma In jail Medically incapacitated Lost their jobUnder the Bradley Ammendment there is no excuse not to pay, tell me how this is "fair?"
>"Exactly, it's much, much worse."He clearly said paying child support was worse then rape.
>Rape is the ultimate dehumanizationI always thought genocide or murder was, but live and learn. I guess we can't all be smart like feminists. Is it any wonder 3 in 4 women avoid feminism like the plague?he is a lout, loser and scum of the earth– no mocking required. Oh the irony! I'm sure the feminists will defend her or at best silently condone this hypocrisy, but then most feminists live in a perpetual echo chamber – they never, ever question one of their own.Shine on, you nutty feminists, shine on.
>Under current no fault divorce a woman who commits adultery is able to divorce her husband and retain child custody. Is this fair?Under current divorce law a woman gets default child custody, as can be seen by the fact that a man has to "fight" for equal custody. He will lose 83% of the time. Is this fair?Under current no fault divorce if a man "contests" this atrocity he has to pay for both his lawyer and hers only to lose and be horribly in debt. Is this fair?
>I'm sorry, wrong link. Here it is.
>Was it a question of fairness? I thought the debate was whether it's comparable to rape. Fair? No. Should the custody and support laws need work so as not to be biased based on gender but focus more on who is actually a more fit parent? Heck yes. Does the financial hardships endured by some men (because there are many men who are cool with their financial obligations toward their children) warrant this hyperbolic comparison to a very real, very traumatic violation of ones' physical and emotional self? I'm thinkin' no. Not so much.
>As you sit there in all your smug, righteous superiority, right now there are men in prison whose only crime was losing their jobs in a depressed economy. Because as the Bradley Ammendment states, there is NO excuse not to pay.Let me elaborate on the fate of these 10s, if not 100s of thousands of men. They lose their drivers license, they go to prison for an average of 6 months, the State continues to pay their exwives while they are in prison, (on average $200.00 a week). When they are released from prison they will be $5600.00 in debt, no drivers license, jobless, penniless and a criminal record. All for the crime of being poor. And the best part is, their own taxes paid for their incarceration. Maybe they'll even get raped for real while in prison. Why don't you wish that on cold, hehe, wouldn't that be funny.Talk to me again about the equality of feminist jurisprudence, when you can explain to me how what I've just written is "fair."