Dating guru RooshV — whose name conveniently rhymes with “douchey” — is convinced that, when it comes to women, smartness is inversely correlated with hotness. As he puts it in a post today, committing at least one logical fallacy in the process:
Femininity is a quality that pleases men. Therefore from the chart we can deduce that educated women decrease a man’s happiness. … Anything beyond a bachelors at a public university is a near guarantee she’ll possess a large basket of masculine traits that will prevent boners.
The “chart” in question is one that RooshV made up himself, and which contrasts the purported sexiness of less-educated women with the purported unsexiness of more educated women. As he explains:
A good test to see if a girl is over-educated is to add the word “sexy” before her job title. If the resulting phrase ignites arousing images in your head, then she’ll most likely have what it takes to satisfy you.
Amongst RooshV’s “boner inducing” job titles for women: Sexy waitress, sexy teacher, sexy librarian, sexy flight attendant. Amongst the “boner softening” job titles: Sexy IT specialist, sexy anesthesiologist, sexy tort attorney, sexy financial analyst.
There are more than a few problems with RooshV’s little list, not the least of which is that plenty of dudes do in fact get boners thinking of “sexy” female IT specialists, lawyers, financial analysts and other smart women. (I’m kind of partial to sexy professors, myself.) And if you don’t want to take my word for it — and MRAs never do — I invite you to investigate the vast amount of porn involving “nerdy girls” or simply girls with glasses (NSFW link).
Also, if you’re going to base your notions of male and female sexuality on which job titles sound like the best sexy Halloween costume, how can you leave out such classics as “sexy nurse” (a job that actually does require specialized education) or “sexy kitty” (which requires whiskers and little cat ears)? And should we conclude from the perpetual popularity of the latter as a Halloween costume that furry women with tails who shit in a box are sexier than the furless standard models?
Also, if you’re a guy who fetishizes less-educated women, and refuses to date women as educated or as well-paid as you are, you pretty much lose the right to criticize women for wanting you to pick up the check for dinner.
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>No way-the stupid woman should also be a trust fund baby so she can still support him while not being able to hold a coherent conversation.
>I wish one could be a librarian without a Master's degree. It would make my career path much cheaper.
>It always baffles me why these guys would think that women would be interested in their boners. I'd get another PhD just to make sure that idiots like this one never approach me or show any interest in me.
>Oh, good, sexy criminal investigator, sexy doctor, and sexy forensics technician aren't on there. I'm safe from this dude no matter where I go.
>Hide, yeah, his notions of jobs that don't require education are a little strange. Had he really considered jobs that don't require much formal education he should have included "sexy farm laborer" and "sexy fast-food worker."
>I love how my relationship with my fiance flies in the face of everything that MRAs believe about how men and women relate to one another.Also, if you're a guy who fetishizes less-educated women, and refuses to date women as educated or as well-paid as you are, you pretty much lose the right to criticize women for wanting you to pick up the check for dinner. Excellent point.
>If there was ever motivation for women to pursue post-graduate education, it is this.
>@Elizabeth, that is not always true for people like RooshV (whose name sounds disturbingly like "roofie" to me). They often want to maximize control over their victim…er "girlfriend"… which is easier to do if she is completely financially dependent.Also, the heteronormativity of RooshV's statement is glaring. Men are only attracted to "feminine" people (whatever the hell that even means in this context), so what about gay men? Besides, as I am sure the butch ladies can tell you, being butch does not stop creepos either.
>Man, for me, nothing kills my boner faster than an idiot.
>So in addition to making me better educated and more employable, my PhD will act as a magical ward against PUAs and other sad, insecure men?I'm having trouble seeing the downside here.
>does this mean that the creepy douches that I go to school with will suddenly realize that I'm too intelligent to mess with and therefore I will no longer be sexually harassed and stalked? There really is no downside hereon another note my boyfriend just informed me after reading this article that he is completely turned on by the thought of sexy epidemiologist (since I'm going into venerable disease study I find this hilariously funny). Thank you boobz for providing entertainment for my evening
>In the month of January I had non-platonic relations with a guy with an admitted fetish for nerdy redheads in glasses*, a guy who declared that he was so turned on when I recited Jabberwocky to him, and a guy who said that my most attractive feature was my brain.I am currently dating a guy who thinks my rants about feminism are interesting and attractive. We do homework together and explain the interesting bits to each other. And, yes, he has an admitted fetish for "smart chicks" too. I think Mr. Roofie is sufficiently disproved with the power of my vag. After all, the boner never lies, right?*He has dated a nerdy redhead and fucked a nerdy girl with glasses (hi!), but so far has not found his dream girl.
>Wait… so teachers don't require higher education? The people who are in charge of education aren't educated? What a special little world Mr. Roofie lives in.Also: what does he mean by feminine? Because as long as we're at it I can disprove "men like feminine women" with the power of my vag too. My vag is winning all sorts of arguments these days. (I mean, seriously, my boyfriend told me to not wear makeup because he thinks I look weird in it. TRUE MOTHERFUCKING LOVE.)
>I am so sorry I followed that link. Extra stupid, extra mean.
>Had he really considered jobs that don't require much formal education he should have included "sexy farm laborer" and "sexy fast-food worker."Congratulations, you pulled out the block that toppled RooshV's Jenga tower of logic. Farming isn't a stereotypically feminine quality (although historically, women participated in farming almost as much as men, since at that income level you don't have a lot of choice). But wait, there are also men who fetishize farm girls. Just look at the Beverly Hillbillies. But more importantly, different men like different things, and for RooshV to make a blanket statement about what men like is idiotic.Professions I added "sexy" to off the top of my head and found appealing: sexy programmer, sexy philosopher, sexy Nobel-winning author, sexy astrophysicist, sexy prime minister…I could go on forever. But it doesn't even matter, because while dating a sexy prime minister would be kind of awesome, a woman's profession doesn't actually matter to me. And dating an astrophysicist would be awesome, but that's because I love astrophysics myself (as an amateur). I would be equally happy to date a woman who also loves astrophysics but isn't an astrophysicist.But all that's pretty irrelevant. Women aren't basing their life decisions on what I find attractive. That's something RooshV can't get through his head.
>Well, I clicked through to the post to look at the chart. And holy shit, is that the most inadvertently funny uses of Exel ever. You call that a chart? What are the units on the axes? Where did the data come from? What about jobs that aren't traditionally feminine but also require little to no formal education, like truck driver or WNBA player? Something tells me he just ignored the points that disturbed his perfect linear relationship, which is a big science no-no, and kind of pointless seeing as he was just making numbers up. Anyway, I was hoping for an infographic filled with slutty women, and he can't even give me that much.This chart tells me nothing, and sadly enough he put his name on it. This is something he's proud of.Also, non-profit work takes a shocking amount of education. I guarantee you'll find more non-profit workers with master's degrees than middle managers.
>Gawd that girl has some tig ol' bitties.
>Wow. Roosh is priceless. I can't stop reading. The comments are pretty good, too. This is my favorite quote so far:"The dick move can only be used after sex has occurred. While I suppose you could use it beforehand as part of a normal game repertoire on a game-playing chick, it won’t have the same punch. She could easily laugh it off since her vagina has no longing or memory for your penis. "
>Man, this guy is terrified of women.
>iodineshuffle said… "So in addition to making me better educated and more employable, my PhD will act as a magical ward against PUAs and other sad, insecure men?I'm having trouble seeing the downside here." Kinda like the way I'm having trouble seeing the downside to this.http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=NmQhCWfXu2o
>I've been attracted to various smart women who weren't overly aggressive or un-feminine. In fact I know a few female college professors who are fairly feminine and submissive. If the graph is true, the curve is much shallower than it's made out to be.Also, why is obsessing over nerdy chicks "creepy?" Would you put the female obsession over that Twilight guy in the same category?
>Kinda like the way I'm having trouble seeing the downside to this.http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=NmQhCWfXu2oOkay, so it's agreed. We won't ask you to support reproductive healthcare, and in return you agree to stay away from women. I'm glad we've finally come to a compromise that makes both sides happy.
>Would you put the female obsession over that Twilight guy in the same category?Yes. Hell yes.
>Also, why is obsessing over nerdy chicks "creepy?" Would you put the female obsession over that Twilight guy in the same category?LOL. Yep.
>the obsession from some women with edward cullen (the guy from twilight) is absolutely fucking creepy