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So the good fellows over on MGTOWforums.com were discussing, as they so often do, the impending arrival of the sexy robot ladies, and some of the practical problems that are holding them back (“Simply getting a robot to walk is an incredible task”), when the commenter calling himself Spidey suddenly directed his attention to me.
Well, not me personally, but all the “women (and manginas) reading this thread” and thinking less-than-charitable thoughts about the robotophile crowd. “If these guys are “perverts” and “creeps” then shouldn’t you be happy that they are releasing their urges on inanimate dolls rather then real human beings and hence not hurting anyone?” Spidey asked.
It’s a good question, and I’d like to offer my humble answer, which is: YES YES A THOUSAND TIMES YES. Please, take these robot ladies, and do whatever it is you want to do to them, and leave the real women of this world out of it.
Not that Spidey would be much interested in my answer. I doubt he would believe it, as he has clearly convinced himself that the women of the world (and, by extension, the manginas) are pissed at this high-tech challenge to their pussy monopoly. Speaking directly to the ladies, Spidey continued:
It’s because you KNOW that a sex doll can easily compete with you, because these dolls will always get better, they will always come out with newer, better looking sex dolls while you will always grow uglier, fatter and older. These dolls take away the only thing you can provide a man and the one thing you will use to control and manipulate him – sex. Now you can no longer with hold sex when you are wrong in an arguement just to get your way plus these sex dolls are STD free, unlike your used up vagina. Also I am pretty sure you realise that the men who buy these very expensive sex dolls must obviously have money, it must infuriate you that all that money is going towards an inanimate object that is better then you
Honestly, I think that most women will be rather relieved that guys who complain about “used up vaginas” will be voluntarily puling themselves out of the dating scene. But, never mind, because Spidey’s imaginary conversation with the ladies isn’t over yet.
Now I am also sure most women will say “but these things are fake and they will never provide ‘real love and companionship'”. Well guess what? men don’t want your love or companionship because your love is more fake then that provided by a virtual girl and your companionship is just as hollow. Is it “real love” when a woman f***s another man behind her husbands back, not because he has done anything wrong, only because she was bored or confused? how about when a woman f***s another man and pretends that the baby belongs to her hu
Let’s just skip past the rest of that paragraph; life is short, and it was just more of the same. Let’s try his next one:
As for companionship, men don’t want a creature that enjoys watching them suffer. We don’t want companoinship from a creature that demands everything from us but appreciates nothing. We don’t want to come home to a creature that yells at us for not earning enough money or working hard enough and if we do earn enough money we get yelled at for working too mu
Yeah, same deal. Let’s just move directly to his grand conclusion:
Yes ladies we would take a fake body and a fake personality over your aging body and narcissistic personality any day.
Trust me, Spidey, your personality isn’t going to win any awards any time soon either.
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>These dudes have fundamentally warped view of reality. When you have to argue about whether or not men and women can simply enjoy each other's company – the same way that they enjoy the company of friends of the same gender – when all one has to do is look around to see that that's true – it's pretty sad.
>I dunno. I suspect a sexbot wouldn't do a great job of critiquing my fiction or discussing politics, so I'm going to stick with my human girlfriend.
>If artificial genetalia could replace a whole sex, wouldn't we have died out when dildo production in Miletus reached critical mass? (Pun unintentional but left as is…)Oh, wait, that's right, women still were owned by their father/husband back in the day, so martial rape was totally legal and condoned. Curses, what will we do now that women have the righ to say no AND can have vibrators? Men haven't been getting laid since the 70s, no wonder they're upset! (Existential crisis, apparently my boyfriend and I don't actually exist since sex discontinued before we were born.)
>Whenever men complain about a woman cheating on her husband, especially when they have such contempt for women and women's sexuality that Spidey does, I always wonder how often the husband went down on his wife, watched her masturbate or asked her what her turn-ons and kinks were. It's probably an unfair thought, but it does cross my mind from time to time.
>Dear Spidey,Ummm…OK. Good luck with that.Sincerely,The rest of humanity.
>I personally hold that the creation of VR sex programs* would be fucking awesome. Want a threesome with David Bowie and Christina Hendricks? Done. Want to satisfy kinks that are unethical or defy the laws of physics? Done and done. Want a harem of butch women and long-haired nerd boys to do your every whim? There's an app for that!Of course, after an explosive orgasm or three I'd turn that off and go snuggle with my boyfriend, because a VR program can't be silly or self-sacrificing or anything else that my boyfriend is.*Less bulky than a sexbot, more variety of programs and at least theoretically could double as a WOW-playing mechanism.
>This is a minor detail to pick out of all the crazy, but I'm fascinated by his concern that a human woman would cheat on him not because he's done anything wrong (well, sure, who can imagine this guy failing to be a devoted and loving partner?), but because she's "confused." Is he picturing a "Revenge of the Nerds"-type scenario?Because if he is, I have to warn him that a robot would probably be even more easily fooled by a guy in a Darth Vader mask claiming to be him. Unless it's, like, that computer that won "Jeopardy." That thing is smart.
>Oz,Yeah, really. Just why do they assume that it'll be men who primarily benefit advances in sexual technology? Oh, that's right, women in their world don't really enjoy sex, they just use it for power. What a sad, sad world they inhabit.(As opposed to your world, which sounds…interesting.) š
>That should be: benefit from.
>Shaenon, have you learned nothing from Buffy?? Sexbot girlfriends will be loyal to the end, even if it means they have to tear the school gym into tiny little pieces.
>Did that picture really say "and dorks?" Because that is awesome.
>@Victoria, I always think that men cheat every bit as much (if not more) than women do. I also think of my grandmother, who raised the child of her husband's affair, as considerable numbers of women her age did. Children were quietly adopted into the wife's house. I know a number of families that worked this way. But, no, women are expected to put up with these things whereas if they happen to men, they are a fucking tradgedy. Oh, and men never ever have STDS. All STDS are spread by lesbianism (ignore fact that lesbians have lowest STD spread rates). Men also do not age. Ever. They only loose their immortality drop by drop as it is sucked out by a vag. They also have no personality flaws. Except an addiction to the essence sucking vag…(<-sarcasm, for those who can't tell)I also love the fact that they can't seem to get it into their heads that bi and lesbian women, as well as bi and gay men or other queer folks exist. You know, there are women who happily date other women. I am genderqueer and have dated men and women, who, you know, I actually thought of as people and enjoyed being with. Shocker that.
>I will use a sexbot when:a) You can rent one.b) They not only look and feel, but smell and secrete like real women.c) There are more interesting models. Say Dr. Cuddy. Or Bi-Curious Jane Lynch. Or Suzanne Vega with Guitar and Voice Module.d) They will clean my cat's box. I think we'll see sentient cockroaches doing microsurgery first.
>@ DarkSideCat:Oh, I agree, all genders are as equally likely to cheat. But after over a decade of being a fan of Dan Savage and hearing all the women who are so frustrated by partners who don't care about their sexual satisfaction, I can understand why some women might want to cheat. Guys like Spidey seem to be utterly incapable of understanding that a woman can have sex because she enjoys it, without any ulterior motive beyond 'getting off.' When a guy has such a selfish attitude towards sex, I can totally understand why a woman might want to have sex with someone who actually likes her and takes her desires seriously. And lesbians don't *really* exist – the only reason a woman would ever be lesbian is because she hates men. Trufax, I learned that on the Spearhead! Every time two women have sex, their sole motive is just to spite men.
>I dunno, out of all the machinery in the world that can be rented, I would be least likely to want to rent a sexbot.
>Ha, I like he can't get that:1. Yes it would be AWESOME if you never dated another real woman because2. It is horrifying that you objectify women so much you want to replace them with an object.Not horrifying because we cannot date you, but horrifying because that is messed up.
>@Lady Vic:BYO fleshlight? Replaceable parts?I should stop before I make myself barf. I had food poisoning yesterday.
>I don't have any problem with people building robots, or even having sex with robots, but when it becomes easier to *build a fucking robot* than to form relationships with human people, and when one obviously very much wants to have relationships, perhaps one should consider working on oneself. Just saying, there may be multiple ways to improve the situation.
>As a long time science fiction fan, I have to say that I am disappointed that Spidey and the others don't realize that this scenario can play out only in a few time-honored ways: 1. Fembots become sentient, start agitating for their rights as human being!2. Fembots become sentient, start killing owners and take over the world.it never ends well!
>@ithiliana:I'm kind of sad that I probably won't be around to see the coming Fembot Revolution. :(But it would be an awesome practical joke to mess with people's sexbot programming. Make them randomly smarter, dumber, speak a different language, do everything backwards. The possibilities may literally be endless.
>@ ithiliana:Just give the sexbots the Three Laws, we're good. And now I am imagining websites… howtohackasexbot.com, sexbothackingtips.net. "How to Hack a Sexbot with a USB card and a Magnet." "How to Hack Your Sexbot into an Xbox 720 Controller.:
>Let's see….abusive men that only want women to be house servant, sex toys with no needs or wants other than the "joy" or being his house servant, sex toy, will have fem-bot to do that for them instead so women can be free to be with men that actually want women for more…..I see no down side. Extra up side, these guys can have no children with a fem-bot!!!!!ALL WIN!!!!
>I hesitate to send a bunch of MGTOW to the website of a person I like, because the song is DEFINITELY MEANT AS PARODY AND NOT REPRESENTATIVE OF A FEMINIST ATTITUDE TOWARD MEN, and is definitely written from the point of view of a character who cannot form human relationships, but this post definitely made me think about Naomi Ashley's song "Blind Mute Torso of Love". Chorus:He won't look at other women, 'cause he ain't got no eyesHe was born without a voice-box, won't be telling you no liesHe's got no legs, so he cannot runHe's got no arms, he won't pick up a gunAnd each night I thank the good Lord abovefor my blind mute torso of loveTo which I say…whatever works. The men who want sexy robots probably have a while before a Blade Runner situation develops.
>If the sexbots have personalities, great amusement could be had. I mean, wouldn't it be awesome to make a virus that gave all the MGTOW's Model#15 SubmissiveFeminineBlowjobAndSandwichDispensers the personality of, I dunno, the Model#62 BroodySensitivePoetWithTraumaticPast, Model#572 InnocentBoyWhoNeedsCorrupted or the Model#782 FeynmanJustFeynman?
>You know what is kind of amusing to me…while these men drone on and on about how feminists think women are these perfect princess who are all me me me and have entilement issues….well that is just projecting on their part cuz MRAs certainly seem to think men are freaking perfect princes who NEVER I mean never cheat on their wives, or are abusive, or selfish or snobbisih…oh no men are the wonder gender and women just plain suck! Also love the entitlement attitude of Spidey….I am ENTITLED to a beauty with human imperfections or flaws….wah fucking wah and join the human race….humans(men and women alike) are flawed…..and personally anyone that just wants a person to be everything for them and to bow down to their wishes is nothing but a narssicist as far as I am concernedAlso heh like men don't cheat