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The good fellows at the Happy Bachelors forum have gone all survivalist on us. Well, a bunch of them have. Some are posting tips on gracious postapocalyptic living: did you know that you can only safely drink your own urine once or twice in an emergency, because it gets more concentrated with nasty bad stuff as you get more dehydrated? The More You Know.
Others are speculating on what it all means for men like them, and the ladies they think are filthy whores.
Like a lot of those who’ve convinced themselves that the end is of civilization is near, our Happy Bachelors seemed kind of stoked at the notion of everything going to shit. Because, you see, clear-sighted, no-nonsense dudes like them will obviously thrive in the tough new environment, while wimpy females and those who love them will be forced to beg for scraps from their new MGTOW overlords.
The perhaps appropriately named recluse sees some hope in the economic collapse of towns like Flint Michigan:
[E]xtreme social poverty … will end frivolous bullshit like catering to the feminists or princess mentality ball busting bitches.
Apparently when mens jobs get harder they begin to get more efficient and genuinely self protective.
This is how manginas can be transformed on a wholesale basis.
Wholesale transformation? Uh oh. I don’t know exactly what recluse is getting at here, but it doesn’t sound good for the manginas of the world.
Still, there is hope for you, ladies.! Well, for some of you. Not many, I’d guess. To be perfectly honest, ladies, if you’re reading this blog here, you’re probably not on the list.
As boogyman explains, after the shit hits the fan,
Quality wives, widows, and virgins will be looked after by good men just like in the Biblical days. Thug lovers, welfare mothers, and feminists will have to fend for themselves (Daddy government will be MIA). The laws of the jungle will sort everything out in short order.
So get that last bit of thug-loving in, gals, while you still have a chance.
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>That law of the jungle thing only works if you keep women away from the guns.
>I love it. MRAs are always pretending they're firmly grounded in the real world, but they have to constantly fantasize about things like the apocalypse so that they have an escapist fantasy in which they're not worthless pieces of shit.
>Silly Elizabeth. Women can't shoot guns. We'd menstruate all over the barrel.Despite being a non-virgin feminist who isn't married to anyone, I anticipate doing quite well in any "law of the jungle"-type situations. I know a bunch of hippies with guns and black belts. 🙂
>Aren't these the same guys who bitch about having to hunt mammoths and wrestle tigers in the caveman days for the benefit of women? And they're looking forward to the post-apocalypse, when they'll have to (presumably) wrestle zombies and hunt mutants to protect women?
>Silly Elizabeth. Women can't shoot guns. We'd menstruate all over the barrel.This one time, at NRA camp…Seriously though, this whole fantasy betrays a profound split from reality: humans are social animals. We survive in groups or not at all. "Rugged individualists" don't exist except in someone's imagination.
>I would imagine thugs and the people who love them lovers will be quite well positioned in any Apocalyptic-type scenario.
>Y'all do not want to know what image popped into my head when you said that Ozy.
>I am pretty sure that "using gun as dildo" contradicts very strongly with "always treat a gun as if it is loaded." See, this is why women are bad at guns.Hide and Seek– Depends. In the very short term, yes. If they're charismatic enough to acquire a group of lesser thugs, yes. But a lone thug is going to get his ass kicked by a group of betas and manginas who know how to cooperate and, y'know, grow food.Or basically "what SallyStrange said."
>:::I would imagine thugs and the people who love them lovers will be quite well positioned in any Apocalyptic-type scenario.:::^This. A salient point the Happy Bachelors seem to be missing.
>see but here's what these guys fail to recognize.1) you can be an anti-statist and a feminist at the same time, they aren't mutually exclusive2) Some feminists are card carrying members of the NRA, and they hunt, shoot etc3) while men were busy hunting the mammoth or some other such bullshit during the caveman days women were busy gathering edible plants, roots, and berries which were generally easier access than the mammoth and therefore sustained the pre-agricultural people more often than did the meat4) the reason modern humans crave social interaction is because our evolutionary ancestors survived by living in family groups and therefore those who are loners are going to be more likely to get killed no matter how good their personal survival instincts are
>Ozymandias- If nothing else, the classic thug should have a head start on getting over the distaste of having to fuck people up in order to remain alive. Or, to paraphrase what (my total dreamy crush of a) science historian, James Burke, said in 1978: A time will come when you must either lay down and die or make someone else die, and what in your quiet. suburban. life. has prepared you to make that choice?
>I wonder how closely correleated MRAs are libertarians. They always seem to think that, at the end of the world, they'll be the ones who are the "fittest" and survive. Anarchy must sound great to people who think they have nothing to lose. (And who think they could hold onto anything they could take. Considering MRAs almost never identify as Alphaholes, their little fantasy seems just sad. Like a toddler stomping a foot and saying, "You'll be sorry.")
>"3) while men were busy hunting the mammoth or some other such bullshit during the caveman days women were busy gathering edible plants, roots, and berries which were generally easier access than the mammoth and therefore sustained the pre-agricultural people more often than did the meat"Actually it's been proven that our ancient relatives hunted in groups, like, the entire tribe hunted as a group. You can't really take down a mammoth with "just" the boys. Men being stronger doesn't mean shit against a mammoth. We likely outsmarted giant prey and set traps for them.
>@keiko44 – "women were busy gathering edible plants, roots, and berries"Yeah – and those things caused the cavemen to get diarrhea!HA!
>Good grief ScareCrow-if I had not seen your photo, I would think you are a 12 year old boy who is less mature than my 12 year old nephew.
>@ScareCrow "Yeah – and those things caused the cavemen to get diarrhea!"Okay number 1, I didn't actually say that, Briget did. I thought by putting it in quotes you'd see that I was QUOTING someone but I'm clearly expecting too much here. Use your eyes and brains together next time. As for your reply. Really? That's all you got? Was that even coherent? No.
>@bridgetThere are feminists and conservative/right-wing women that post on conservative blogs and frequently they have problems with these MRAs because these MRAs post there too. One of them ( Whiskey ) was banned from Pajamas Media last year.@tawaenThese guys expect that anarchy and chaos will come, like many members of apocalyptic cults, but most of them want it after their death because they are coward and don't want to live in a place were there is chaos.
>How exactly is one who maintains a brutal force based fiefdom not a thug? It seems to me that thug loving girls (if such exist) would thrive in and enjoy such a set up.Also, my welfare mother has a chest full of guns and enough canned food to last for years (the woman has greenbeans canned in glass jars from her '94 harvest). Apparantly MGTOW do not understand that poor women, particulary rural and immigrant poor women, actually have far better basic skills in these areas. They have years and years of experience. I suspect these MGTOW have never actually been poor and never seen the badass survival skills that poor mothers deploy every day to live and feed their kids. Post apocolyptic living? Fools, poor women already do these things. These rich people fantasizing about being poor remind me of Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court by Mark Twain. They romanticize what they have not lived and do not understand.Sidenote on anarchy: Anarchy as a political theory does not equal for chaos or free for all battle royale. Most anarchists believe in coperation and valuing other people. There are even socialist anarchists. Anarchy=no state/no government. I does not necessarily mean egoistic survivalism. While I think anarchy as a political theory has a number of shortcomings, I do not want to see anarchy portrayed in stereotypes.
>@keiko44This is true–our ancestors did set traps for large animals, particularly before weapon technology became very advanced (a lot of early human's tools would have required literally walking up to the mammoth and stabbing it, which I could see ending badly). One of the ways they hunted was by driving herds off of cliffs. Strength was pretty irrelevant. Before that, humans were mostly scavengers using crude tools to harvest the meat from already dead animals.(Thx early-human-anth class! And I never thought this knowledge would come in handy!)
>Tarma says "No knowledge is ever wasted." Choco although how come they never talk about the digging stick?
>Just to chime in as well, on the issue of hunter-gatherers…as I recall, it has been fairly well established both through historical research and through anthropological observation of extant hunter-gatherer tribes, that with a few notable exceptions (the Inuit, for example), the vast majority of the nutrition consumed by the tribe comes from gathering, er..female work. In contrast, the meat-acquisition, while more highly valued (perhaps because of it's relative rarity), contributed far less to what was actually being eaten. Plus, as many people have pointed out already, it's not like a group of women, properly trained and prepared, would actually be any more incapable of bringing down a mammoth or finding their own food. Especially if modern weaponry was still available. The power differentials between Mammoth–>Group of men and Mammoth–>Group of similarly armed and trained women would hardly be different at all, from the mammoth's perspective.
>avpd, there is a difference between anarchy and anti-statism. I personally believe that our country would be better without the government and I am a feminist who probably agrees with a lot of what you say.
>And who is to say that women did not assist with the mammoth hunting back in the day?Nature is full of examples of female hunters in the predator class.
>"They romanticize what they have not lived and do not understand."I knew someone like this. Tons of talk about The End of The World and how he would survive and be a leader and blahblah blahity blah. Except, he was anything but a leader. He didn't want to get a job, would mooch off of his girlfriend who had to put up with his nasty psychoanalysis of her and her family, and refused to do anything. Yet his homelessness was him being a "rugged individualist", not a lazy ass."Apparently MGTOW do not understand that poor women, particularly rural and immigrant poor women, actually have far better basic skills in these areas. They have years and years of experience."This, sooo this. Also, there's large parts of the world that have no electricity, clean water, and scarce food – The Apocalypse As Theorized By Dudes is a reality for quite a few people on this planet. People still manage to survive – not well, but they do. One person's "dire poverty in another country" is another person's "apocalypse".My feeling is that if it takes dire poverty to prove yourself, there's nothing stopping you from giving up everything you have to live in poverty. You don't have to wait until the end of the world.
>Just to chime in as well, on the issue of hunter-gatherers…as I recall, it has been fairly well established both through historical research and through anthropological observation of extant hunter-gatherer tribes, that with a few notable exceptions (the Inuit, for example), the vast majority of the nutrition consumed by the tribe comes from gathering, er..female work.Yeah, but it probably gave them all diarrhea! HA!Man, that never gets old.