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| Ladies: Here is your nemesis. |
Too much bad news on this blog of late. So today I bring you some truly good news for modern man. Not so much for the ladies, though. Apparently you gals are on the verge of becoming obsolete.
Or so says the fellow calling himself PatRiarchy — clever! — one of the unwitting contestants in Feministe’s Next Top Troll contest. Yep, flesh-and-blood ladies, watch out, because sexy lady robots are on the way:
Soon we men will no longer have any need of you at all and females will die out. By 2020 there will be the first full functioning android released onto the market. To be politically correct it will be a female. But economically it will be female becasue men would be prepared to pay a once off cost for never having to compromise and she would never take his kids. She can look like any female he wants and to his exact specifications. She will have great physical strength. Every piece of information ever recorded in human history at her fingertips. Including the Karma Sutra.
Yep, the Karma Sutra. It’s a lot like the Kama Sutra, except once you master the Reverse-double-cowgirl-butterfly position you transcend the realm of suffering and escape the cycle of rebirth.
Back to the sexy robot ladies:
She will be better than any natural Western female on Earth. She will be supportive of everything he does. And the cost to keep her is significantly less than any Western female. So as time goes on the investment becomes amortised.
Amortized, bitches! Fucking A. Mort. Ized!
Ok, some of you human ladies must be thinking, will your ability to pop out babies keep you from being consigned to the scrapheap of history? That would be a big no.
Soon we will be able to create and grow perfect male humans in vitro without ever having to worry about what harmful things a mother may ingest.
So there.
The weak perish and you have allowed yourselves to become weak by claiming to be victims and thus claiming privileges whilst never having to be reponsible for your actions. … When there’s no more mooching off men your fortunes will rapidly change and you will disappear. We’ve carried you for 3.5 MILLION years. Image what we can achieve with all the resouces that are saved from not having to support females. It’s a BRAVE new world dawning girlies and unless you grow up fast and stop whining and get doing you will fail.
Here’s an actual photograph of what it was like 3.5 million years ago. As you can see, the Australopithecus dude is doing all the work while the gal, who’s not even all that pretty, is dancing around like an idiot.
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>theclementine said… "I'm not going to lie – that sexbot picture is almost as creepy as the dudes claiming it's the way of the future."Think that's creepy? You should see what real women look like without their faces.Sandy"He seems to think that if you could replace women sexually you could remove all their power."Well not exactly. Not ALL of your power. Just the part that gives you enough leverage to make all talk of male control and oppression sound like so much utter nonsense to male ears.Just the part that gives you enough leverage to make men such as David throw his fellow man under the bus to get positive female attention hence the downward social and political spiral that is misandry. Just the part that gives you enough leverage to make you NOT FUNDAMENTALLY OUR EQUALS.Also you feminist types have some pretty weak ideas of what a 'sexual replacement' (for lack of better words) might be like.For one thing it's VR tech that will likely get there WAY faster than robotics AND way cheaper. But even THAT is not really thinking outside the box.nicko81m said… "Heh the equivalent to this would be some male robot with an ATM machine attached to it. That would be the primary focus to these certain women besides the sexual stuff."I always imagined an ATM machine with a built in vibrator and a recording of a male voice saying "Your more important than the universe and all parallel universes combined" on a looped tape playing over and over again.
>@evilwhitempire My sex robot would NEVER omit an apostrophe.
>LexieDi"And, not even talking about reproduction, what happens when the natural resources run out? You know, the metals and fossil fuels, and the like? Will ladybots be handed down from generation to generation? "Son, I want you to have Pamalina Jolenson. I've cleaned out her sperm receptacle."More lack of imagination from the supposedly creative gender.We grow kids in women genetically altered to serve as 'superwombs' (think living breathing fertility figures without head or limbs). Then we grow other genetically modified women to serve as sex slaves. (think Priss from Blade Runner) We'll even extend their telomeres so they won't grow old so fast.
>Veralidaine said… "@evilwhitempire My sex robot would NEVER omit an apostrophe."We ll mine would cos mine would not be programed to prof red for gramaticle erors and smugly sight them for ad hominm a tac porposis as if they wore a refutition of the thory of relatvty as is customry for a lot of (mostly feminst) femals and sisy boys to doo.
>Funny, because if you google "men are obsolete" you will get all sorts of main stream media articles celebrating the male decline. I have also read several short stories by feminists about societies where men are either relegated to slave status or locked in insemination warehouses. It is a common fictional plot device, so I am not sure why this guy is any different. This is interesting because one man having a rant is considered a threat by you. If feminists find it valuable to imagine worlds without men, I think it is very interesting to imagine a world where female sexual power is removed from society. If women lost the ability to attract men with sex, they would have to find other ways to attract them. (I say they because I am married and out of the game.) There would probably not be many male robots-many women look for different things in a man a robot cannot provide, such as an income and the idea of true love (the sex part most women can get without much trouble). It might be good for women to have to compete with a robot…it would make us strive to better ourselves. Besides, I would have thought this robot would do you all a favor…take all those icky sexual men out of the equation so the world would be filled only with sensitive, feminist guys. You cannot be pleased.
>Oh, and as for the picture…I would like to see you bring down a wild gazelle with a rock and a stick.
>The Biscuit Queen: Funny, I just googled "Men are obsolete". You're right that there are a couple of pieces on mainstream articles (an op-ed in MSNBC and a link to the Telegraph that doesn't work).Funny how none of the top links are actually feminist sites, or feminist news sources.I've been going around the feminist blogosphere a lot, and I have yet to read a single piece in any notable feminist blog (e.g. Feministing, Shakesville, Feministe) that actually celebrates the end of men, or denigrates men as a gender.Could you link me these supposedly ubiquitous short stories by feminists where men are enslaved or are locked in "insemination warehouses"? I can't seem to find any.
>@LexiDi"This guy's obviously never taken a biology class. … You can't make a baby out of just sperm, you're missing 23 chromosomes! The ladybot doesn't have any chromosomes."The chromosomes are not a problem AFAIK–get them from some other dude's genome, and splice them in.The real technical problems are much worse: no eggs, and no wombs. Without eggs, there's nothing to fertilize. And without a womb, there's nowhere for the embryos to develop. So even cloning wouldn't work without tech that is way more than 20 years off, if not completely impossible.
>Well, one could freeze a large number of eggs which could be used for many generations. Problem is, the vast, vast majority of men would not want to live in a world without women, no matter how aweful those women may get. So even if one or two loonies wax poetic about a womanless world, it will not happen.
>I did not claim that these feminist stories were ubiquitous, any more than you are saying these stories about a womanless world are ubiquitous. My point was that there are also women out there who dream of the same thing. I don't save links to the majority of what I read, sorry. If I can find it in a fairly quick search I will post it. MSNBC and other media outlets are far more sympathetic to feminist causes than men's issues. I would go so far to say they are in many ways feminist.
>evilwhitemaleempire: "Think that's creepy? You should see what real women look like without their faces."WOW. You really said that?That's seriously disturbing. Just, wow.
>EvilWhiteMaleEmpire: As of right now… none of that is possible. It's not about being "creative" it's about being realistic and why you're not going to have ladybots in 10 years… It's not possible outside of science fiction novels right now.I never saw Blade Runner. And if you just genetically modified human women to be sex slaves, they'd still have a brain and at least some would still want (and deserve) equality.Joe: As far as I know, you can't splice the DNA from two same-sex couples yet. And lets just say that you could. That would mean that, for the most part, the man-child would be part of both dudes and the dudes would be forever linked in the making of that child. What if the bromance fades? Then you get custody battles, I suppose.And yes, you have no eggs and no wombs. Either way… babies will not be made in this manner in 10 years.
>These creepy loners can go off with thier robotic girlfriends to their parents' basements or one room apartments or darkened hotel rooms. The rest of us real men and women will live lives of love and laughter, sharing, growing, caring, not ever missing them at all.
>Veralidaine: An apostrophe AND an E! I was just thinking "What does my moneyvibebot mean? My important universe? What what?!"
>I also googled 'men are obsolete' and got 1/3 conservative columnists squawking about feminism, 1/3 recycled news stories about a research team that made sperm from bone marrow and 1/3 results for a book that is specifically asking the question about black men, which was probably not addressing the question from the same place as Biscuit Queen. I'm not sure I know what stories Biscuit Queen refers to. Almost every example I know of where the plot of the story involves some kind of deliberately man-hating matriarchy, the point is that some guy stumbles in and teaches someone how to love. That's supposed to be the conflict, I guess. I am willing to believe there are feminist scifi/fantasy stories about how unrelentingly awesome a world without men is, but I'm not sure where I'd look for those stories outside a feminist bookstore or maybe a used bookstore of the more eccentric type. Or livejournal 🙂 The most mainstream example of that story I can think of is a Futurama episode from the third or fourth season, which I promise is not too terribly feminist.It is true that some scientists believe the y-chromosome is in decline and some news stories will use "men are becoming obsolete" as the hook, but now other scientists say the y-chromosome is not only not in decline, but is super-awesome at evolving. Either way, no big changes are in store for men before women become obsolete in 2020. I'd be panicking about that, but PatRiarchy seems to think the 2020 versions will also provide moral support, babysitting, and presumably housework, so I just might be interested in buying one myself. She could be my friend during the long lonely years ahead. Hey – the problems caused by the sexbots also have an android solution! We should devote the rest of this thread to picking out stocks in relevant companies – there's clearly money to be made here.
>There was a prime time reality television show about all the women leaving for a period of time to show how inept the men would be without them. That was fairly well known. http://www.afterellen.com/archive/ellen/Print/scifi.htmlHere are a few stories about feminist, lesbian utopias.
>There was a movie once that had no female characters except maybe one or two bit parts. I think it was called Master and Commander. Or maybe Glengarry Glen Ross. Crimson Tide? 12 Angry Men?http://www.imdb.com/keyword/all-male-cast/
>@ The Biscuit Queen:Just read your link, and I have to say – none of the 4 books mentioned at the end were worlds in which "men are either relegated to slave status or locked in insemination warehouses". In one of the books about "feminist, lesbian utopias", women are actually enslaved by men. Only two of the books feature scenarios in which men as a gender have died out – neither are presented as utopias. And, as your link explicitly points out, "these utopias often excluded men not because the authors necessarily hated men, but because of a desire to envision a world in which power was not located in one (male) sex."So – I'm still wondering where are your examples of feminist, man-hating stories in which men are chattel and harvested for their sperm or whatever. Because clearly, since they are not very commonly found, then they can't be really representative of mainstream feminism or feminist literature.
>LexieDi said… "And if you just genetically modified human women to be sex slaves, they'd still have a brain and at least some would still want (and deserve) equality."Not necessarily.The limbic brain could be genetically altered to make them actually want to please us. To feel wonderful when they succeed and feel awful when they fail to do so.Us ordinary humans are only selfish because evolution makes the limbic brain that way. (A 'natural' limbic brain is optimized to make an animal survive on it's own terms for the sake of it's DNA.) But these creatures would no more want to 'rebel' than you or I would want to stop breathing. They could even be given superhuman intelligence (massive neocortex) and it would not affect their 'loyalty' at all so long as we control how the limbic brain gets 'hard wired'."As of right now… none of that is possible."Well duh. OR we'd have done it by now.shiloruh said… "These creepy loners can go off with thier robotic girlfriends to their parents' basements or one room apartments or darkened hotel rooms. The rest of us real men and women will live lives of love and laughter, sharing, growing, caring, not ever missing them at all."And further overpopulate the planet with more gits too no doubt.
>I'm going to ignore evil's really creepy comment and just note that Left Hand of Darkness isn't about an all-woman world at all:"On Winter, gender does not exist; instead, the planet’s people are androgynous until they enter a stage called kemmer, during which they take on male or female sexual characteristics in response to their companion."
>Well, Mr. Futrelle… You got to admit that evil's name pretty much sums up his vision for the future, eh?
>Evil:Well sure. And I could be genetically altered to spit bonbons. I guess if you're going for that "anything is possible" mindset that could happen, sure. I love how you talk about how humans are wired to be selfish and the whole original post shows off how selfish some people are.Anyway, yes, it's not possible now. It won't be possible in 10 years, either, if it is ever possible. And if it becomes possible, well-balanced men probably won't take advantage for long if at all.
>theclementine said… "Well, Mr. Futrelle… You got to admit that evil's name pretty much sums up his vision for the future, eh?"Oh, there will be plenty of evil in the future.Just not my evil.
>theclementine said… @ The Biscuit Queen:….. "men are either relegated to slave status or locked in insemination warehouses"….. still wondering where are your examples of feminist, man-hating stories in which men are chattel and harvested for their sperm or whatever http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/LGB.aspDiManno, Rose (radical feminist)“Men are from another planet, sent here by spaceships to copulate with female earthlings and propagate the species—a task for which science has rendered them all but redundant. We need keep only a handful of donors on a sperm farm for that purpose, where they can subsist on pizza and beer and Playboy magazine.” (Toronto Star, January 11, 1999, p. 31)