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When pick-up guru Roissy isn’t going on about herpes and hypergamy, and demonstrating his utter ignorance of both subjects, he’s apparently helping to rid the world of misogyny. At least according to one of his readers. a guy names Marcus, who offered his take on Roissy’s teachings on “Game” in a comment that Roissy highlighted as one of his favorite “comments of the month” for December. Here’s Marcus:
It sounds strange, but this blog has made me less of a misogynist. I have come to view women as elegant machines — machines for using, to be sure — that mostly do a damned good job of doing what they were designed to do. As I get more comfortable and consistent at either aggressively torquing their levers or gently greasing their gears at just the right moments, my appreciation only deepens.
All this talk of talk of torque and gears and levers reminds me a little of one of my favorite songs by T. Rex, Jeepster, in which Marc Bolan offers a strangely similar, er, appreciation of women:
Just like a car you’re pleasing to behold
I’ll call you Jaguar if I may be so bold
‘Cos you’re my baby, ‘cos you’re my love
Oh girl I’m just a Jeepster for your love – oh
Now why is it that Marc Bolan could get away with comparing a woman to a luxury car without sounding like a complete douchenozzle? Well, for one thing, he’s fucking MARC BOLAN, and his lyrics are always completely fucking insane. For another, he also compared himself to a car, specifically the Willys-Overland Jeepster. And, third, because he did it in one of the sleaziest, catchiest glam rock songs ever.
>I didn't call women shop worn pussy, I called shop worn pussy shop worn pussy. There is a difference. Nobody wants sloppy seconds.
>Sorry Marcus, but thinking of women as objects to be used to your own ends–and "designed" to be used that way–is as misogynistic as it gets. Why is it so hard for some people to conceive as others a autonomous human beings with needs, wants, desires and fears as rich and varied as their own? Marcus sounds like he's fashioning himself into a sociopath in order to get laid. Interesting technique, but…no. Just no.
>Oh please, Witman. Insulting women who've had more partners than you judge appropriate is such a sad, tired cliche. I thought you might be more intelligent than that.Percy, you matriarchal control freak (and I mean that with love), that was a wonderfully reasonable, logical response. I think it will be lost on Nick, but I appreciated it.
>percyprune Angry screed? I think there is a lot of irony to that when comparing it to your post.Yes, we can operate our sexuality however the fuck we want. It's called male liberation. And that's something that feminists don't seem to want as they want to make the rules.Anyway, male sexual liberation has nothing to do with coercion, violence, or rape. But it's typical of you as a feminist to put that label on male sexuality. It’s no surprise as the whole aim of the feminist movement these days is to demonise the male gender in every possible way.As for this objectifying garbage that feminists spew out; if a man thinks a woman has a nice set of legs, nice butt, nice breast…he is entitled to feel attracted to that. He is entitled to feel attracted to the female body. After all, being born as a heterosexual male, I thought it's our instinct to be attracted to the female body. It's the heterosexual male's nature to feel this way. But unfortunately feminists discriminate and demonise our natural sexual instincts just for an excuse to find something to whine about.This has nothing to do with treating women as animals or not human. But to come up with these assumptions is just the usual feminist ploy to claim another faulty premise of female victim status.All the time, the feminist nutters point their fingers at men and talk to us like children in a very condescending manner on how we should function our sexuality. I am glad that I have the spine to not buy into this BS.It never ceases to amaze me how feminists will just make up anything or complain about the most petty things just for an excuse to demonise and whine about men.The behaviour of many to most feminists that I acknowledge, it could be defined as a disorder. Feminists will over turn rocks looking for something to whine about or be offended by, simply for an excuse to create anger over men. It’s like they need someone to change their diaper.All in all, feminists just need to handle the fact that men are different. And to say that men are wrong for being different is incredibly sexist.
>@iodineshuffle,I can judge who I want by whatever criteria I wish to. This is especially true when choosing a mate so you can call me cliche and I'll just call it shop worn pussy.Just remember that you cannot motorboat a personality!
>Witman: It's funny how there are no derogatory terms to describe men who aren't virgins, isn't it? Tell me, what would be a highly offensive term for a man who has put his penis into someone and is now therefore used goods and dirty? I sure can't think of one. I suppose that's because men are entitled to be promiscuous if they so choose and then not merely expect their wives to be virgins, but sanctimoniously denigrate women who aren't. Can you imagine a woman who sleeps around and then states that she'll have nothing to do with a used dick? What kind of a reaction would she encounter? But men aren't privileged, oh NO.
>Amused, a man who sleeps around is commonly labelled as a pig, someone who is desperate, a sleazebag, a user, or someone who only thinks with their little head. I've heard plenty of women say that they don't want to touch men who sleep around in case they catch something. So the thought of used goods and dirty is very alive and well towards men too.Considering the slut shaming, I think it's mostly women who call other women sluts more so than men using that label on women. It's mostly women who criticise other women for being too easy while it's mostly men who try to encourage women to have sex. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that one out. It would be stupid to say that men are sex starved in one stance and then flip to another stance and say that we don't want women giving it. Women are the main culprits of limiting the freedoms of sex for their own gender. Yet, of course, it’s always the fault of the evil menz.
>Amused,Isn't it funny how PUA-types seem to have a particular hatred for promiscuous women? They want women to sleep with them, but if they do, they're dirty, dirty whores.Of course, they seem to hate promiscuous men, too, for doing what they can't. Equal-opportunity vitriol, I guess!
>Dave, did you set up your own special web page just to troll me? http://derpaherp.blogspot.com/Probably not, but fun stuff nonetheless.
>Nope, not me.
>I figured you wouldn't need a sock puppet. Still hoping to be a big enough douche to wind up on your enemies list one day ;[
>Oh, David. My (male) heart goes out to you with some of the extraordinary pig-headed stupidity you have to encounter and respond to on a daily basis. The woeful lack of self-knowledge of the sort of man who will sneeringly refer to 'shop worn pussy' – and then go crying to Uncle Roissy that modern women don't respect modern men and they're evil and horrid and call him names. The breathtaking stupidity of not seeing the difference between a woman slapping her boyfriend round the face and her boyfriend retaliating by putting her in intensive care for a month with four broken ribs and a shattered jaw. The extraordinary, mind-blowing insistence that male domestic violence and female domestic violence are equally dangerous and commonplace. I feel there may be a few hundred shelters for abuse victims that would beg to differ. The you-either-laugh-or-you-cry jeering dismissal of any woman less attractive than Jennifer Aniston as a sub-par specimen fit only to be pumped amd dumped. Immediately followed by an endless, pathetically self-pitying soliloquy attacking evil, shallow, hypergamous females for only being interested in the superficially attractive men – and rejecting perfectly eligible and desirable 'nice guys' like themselves just because they happen to weigh 350 pounds and smell of haddock. The dark hilarity of gentlemen who'd be considered a little on the slow side at a school for special needs children castigating women for their intellectual inferiority – and holding up the works of Milton and Da Vinci to justify their argument. I wonder how many epic poems and gloriously timeless works of art the MRAs themselves have generated with their dynamic and superior masculine energy. I am putting my money on 'none.' They remind me more than anything of inbred white supremacists whose sole achievement in life has been the regular collection of an unemployment cheque. Claiming racial superiority to the clearly sub-standard likes of Will Smith and Oprah Winfrey – when, in reality, these godlike Aryan master racers wouldn't be superior to a race of bonobo monkeys with body odour. David, I find your patience and perseverance truly admirable. When I learned of these eerie little specimens lurking under the rock of humanity, I found the best approach was simply to point and laugh; if I may pimp my blog again, the results can be viewed at citizenlemonade.wordpress.com Yet if it is any consolation, David, there is one great certainty in life. And that is, ironically, that 'manginas' like you and I have infinitely more success with women than these ghastly little aspiring disciples of George Sodini. Please visit my now-defunct-but-still-rather-readable blog and become enlightened in the dark art of Game. Unless you are one of the frightening cretins who posts on here from the MRA movement. In which case, please don't.
>"Yet if it is any consolation, David, there is one great certainty in life. And that is, ironically, that 'manginas' like you and I have infinitely more success with women than these ghastly little aspiring disciples of George Sodini."As a female, I would like to do the "raise the roof" gesture in response to that.
>Yet if it is any consolation, David, there is one great certainty in life. And that is, ironically, that 'manginas' like you and I have infinitely more success with women than these ghastly little aspiring disciples of George Sodini. No offense to either you or our gracious host (and for what it's worth, I got a kick out of your August 9th entry) but I really wouldn't bet on this.
>"No offense to either you or our gracious host (and for what it's worth, I got a kick out of your August 9th entry) but I really wouldn't bet on this."I wouldn't either, but that's because I don't see human sexuality as an appropriate basis for gambling.Why wouldn't you?
>@citizenlemonade:"The breathtaking stupidity of not seeing the difference between a woman slapping her boyfriend round the face and her boyfriend retaliating by putting her in intensive care for a month with four broken ribs and a shattered jaw."OK, would it make it better then if men just slapped women around? Maybe just a spanking when they throw a tantrum or something?Slap me and one is coming right back at you lady (and I use that word loosely). Then you can use your victimhood to join the useful idiots.
>In regards of the steaming pile of BS Citizen has postedHow often does a man give a woman broken ribs and shattered jaw? How often do women get put in intensive care from DV? I would say very very rarely.There are cases of women stabbing, murdering, cutting off the penis of their husbands/boyfriends. But when it comes to feminism, ALL of this gets pulled under the rug.What feminists such as citizen ALWAYS ignore is the woman's part of violence. And even if the woman's part of violence is self defence and she stabs or murders the guy, it's not deemed as evil. It's only evil when the woman is the victim. But can we ever get it through to these extreme bigots? I don't think so. They hate men so much that they just totally ignore the victimisation of violence against men altogether.Yet, they have the audacity to claim they are on the higher standing ground ROFLOn the part about modern women don't respect modern men; there is a lot of truth to this as misandry is a lot more accepted in society than misogyny. A woman is still socially accepted to express things like; there are not many decent men, most men only think with their little heads, most men are assholes, men have to buy me dinners because I’m a woman, all men are guilty of being evil until proven otherwise.There are a large percentage of women in today’s western society that express one, or some, or all of these things about men. If you can still say that these women respect men, I really really pity your intelligence. As I was saying, it’s a large percentage of women who truly have this mentality. It’s not something rare, it’s not only some women.And how about some total irony? If you think 99 percent of feminists respect men, you are as dumb as a door knob. How can any human being respect men when their daily agenda is to bash/criticise/demonise men on a daily basis? Their daily agenda is to constantly prove female victim status by expressing how evil men are. WOW so much respect.And to take the feminist part even further, don’t feminists think that most modern men don’t respect modern women because of this objectifying controversy? You see, if it was just something that feminists believed only some men did, feminists wouldn’t make it as such a public outrage like they already have. But of course, it’s only acceptable to claim that most modern men have no respect. When the tables are turned it’s deemed as misogyny. From expressing all these things that women do in this whole post; if a man is even close to being this negative towards women, he is deemed as a total misogynist creep that would be placed as a social outcast. So much for male privilege, ay? heh
>How often does a man give a woman broken ribs and shattered jaw? How often do women get put in intensive care from DV? I would say very very rarely.There are cases of women stabbing, murdering, cutting off the penis of their husbands/boyfriends. But when it comes to feminism, ALL of this gets pulled under the rug.What feminists such as citizen ALWAYS ignore is the woman's part of violence. And even if the woman's part of violence is self defence and she stabs or murders the guy, it's not deemed as evil. It's only evil when the woman is the victim. But can we ever get it through to these extreme bigots? I don't think so. They hate men so much that they just totally ignore the victimisation of violence against men altogether.Yet, they have the audacity to claim they are on the higher standing ground ROFL
>On the part about modern women don't respect modern men; there is a lot of truth to this as misandry is a lot more accepted in society than misogyny. A woman is still socially accepted to express things like; there are not many decent men, most men only think with their little heads, most men are assholes, men have to buy me dinners because I’m a woman, all men are guilty of being evil until proven otherwise.There are a large percentage of women in today’s western society that express one, or some, or all of these things about men. If you can still say that these women respect men, I really really pity your intelligence. As I was saying, it’s a large percentage of women who truly have this mentality. It’s not something rare, it’s not only some women.And how about some total irony? If you think 99 percent of feminists respect men, you are as dumb as a door knob. How can any human being respect men when their daily agenda is to bash/criticise/demonise men on a daily basis? Their daily agenda is to constantly prove female victim status by expressing how evil men are. WOW so much respect.And to take the feminist part even further, don’t feminists think that most modern men don’t respect modern women because of this objectifying controversy? You see, if it was just something that feminists believed only some men did, feminists wouldn’t make it as such a public outrage like they already have. But of course, it’s only acceptable to claim that most modern men have no respect. When the tables are turned it’s deemed as misogyny. From expressing all these things that women do in this whole post; if a man is even close to being this negative towards women, he is deemed as a total misogynist creep that would be placed as a social outcast. You are totally blind as a bat if you can't see that political correctness these days swings heavily in favour of women. And yet, the nutty feminists still have the audacity to claim men are privileged. *yawn*
>@nick:I like how you put a little review of your own post in asterisks at the end. That way I don't have to read it and I still know how to react.
>Raul Groom Only a bigot avoids acknowledging the other side of the story
>Hahaha come on, Nick, you can't say that when your worldview is partly premised on attacking an idea of feminism that doesn't have anything to do with feminism actually is.I mean…unless you're saying you are yourself a bigot.
>MI just call out on what I see from feminism. It gives women a licence to be blatantly sexist without any ramifications
>@nick:p "How often does a man give a woman broken ribs and shattered jaw? How often do women get put in intensive care from DV? I would say very very rarely."While both men and women commit DV, women are far more likely to be seriously injured by DV than men are. http://manboobz.blogspot.com/p/not-so-great-debate-on-domestic.htmlhttp://manboobz.blogspot.com/2010/11/further-reading-domestic-violence.html
>"It's mostly women who criticise other women for being too easy while it's mostly men who try to encourage women to have sex."This doesn't seem to jibe with the claim that women who have sex joyfully are "shopworn."Women aren't items on sale.