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Judy Chicago brings vagina to the table. Via lolvantgarde

Careful readers may have noticed a new blog in my Enemies List, a promising up-and-comer in the world of nutbag misogyny. Yes, I’m talking about BOYCOTT AMERICAN WOMEN, a blog whose purpose is clearly stated in its name. So why should we fellows boycott — sorry, BOYCOTT — AMERICAN WOMEN? Oh, our blog proprietor has got himself a little list:

American women are the most likely to cheat on you, to divorce you, to get fat, to steal half of your money in the divorce courts, don’t know how to cook or clean, don’t want to have children. …

American women are generally immature, selfish, extremely arrogant and self-centered, mentally unstable, irresponsible, and highly unchaste. The behavior of most American women is utterly disgusting, to say the least.

So yeah, it’s pretty much the standard-issue anti-American woman crap. And for the most part the posts so far — little missives (allegedly) from different guys explaining why they hate American gals — haven’t been terribly imaginative.

But there are occasional sparks of wonderful nutbaggery. Like the little word-portrait evoked here by John from USA:

So many American woman seem to think that all they need to do is bring their vagina to the table and that I will just give them whatever they want

Vagina? Table? Paging Judy Chicago!

In case you were wondering, ladies, John assures us all that he does “not have a small penis!” But too bad, ladies, he’s taken.

A post from someone named James laments that American women have become

a spoiled, non compassionate sex that I have seen de masculinate their spouses

Mark from the USA, meanwhile, seems to have something of a hair fetish:

Many foreign women have much nicer body shapes, more feminine traits and a lot still have nice long hair, opposed to the boyish low-maintenance short cuts that most American women get by their mid to late teens and never grow back.

Damn those hair-cutting sluts! Also, Mark seems like he’s really not into the whole “communication” thing.

I’m looking for a foreign spouse too, and would NEVER accept an American woman. I don’t even care what country she’s from or if we speak a mutual language. In fact, I’d probably be happier with her if we couldn’t even understand each other, than some American bitch constantly nagging and ragging at me in English.

I don’t think I’ll be boycotting American women any time soon. But I’ll be coming back to this blog for sure.

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John Dias
13 years ago

>Speaking of fetishes, David… From my perspective, your affinity for actively seeking out what you consider to be misogynistic filth — while ostensibly intended to combat misogyny by exposing it — seems itself to be a fetish of yours, like you're fascinated by it, even attracted to it. I know you've expressed disgust against some of the posts that you've criticized, for example saying that you need to wash your brain with mind bleach. But you keep coming back and seeking it out. Then you project judgment onto others, associating their political beliefs with the misogyny that has so thoroughly transfixed and captivated you. Captivated… what an appropriate word.Are you really on a mission to rid the blogosphere of misogyny, or are you slowly becoming more infected by it?

David Futrelle
13 years ago

>You can be interested in something without wanting to become that something. Some people spend their lives studying slime molds. That doesn't mean they want to become slime molds. At least not usually. Also: MRAs spend a LOT of time obsessing about feminism (without actually knowing anything about it). But I don't think that mean's they're secretly feminists.

Sandy
13 years ago

>I like the long hair comment. It reveals his mind set that the only wants are his wants, and any woman who does something against his wants does so in deliberate defiance of his wants.

ScareCrow
13 years ago

>@David:The word in the "manosphere" is that BoycottAmericanWomen is a feminist farce…Notice its initials are "BAW" – i.e. crying…Also notice that the names seem to be very unimaginativeBob, John, Sam, Doug, James, Mark – they are all male names – but excessively "typical" – which lends their credibility to some scrutiny.You could pick 6 random people from where I work – and the only typical name you might come up with is well – David – no pun intended – he sits across from me…Notice the horrid spelling on the site as well – was it written by a 12 year old? Somebody who is mentally ill?hmmm…I question the credibility of that entire blog.

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M
13 years ago

>The thing about "BAW" is that it sounds no different from real comments I've seen on MRA sites over the years. I mean maybe it's a feminist farce, as they've been promoting the site on comments on feminist blogs, but maybe they're just trying to get attention and think they're brave and never-heard-before stance will just automatically enrage feminists. Most of the responses I've seen to it on feminist blogs have been laughter and variations of "thank you, boycotters, one less douche in the dating poo!" with a smattering of mentions that is this attitude is about "importing" spouses from poor countries it can pose a real danger for the "imported" in that the entire relationship begins on a massive power imbalance both legally and culturally. The idea that someone ("Mark") would want a partner they can't even communicate with is just too childish for words. If you find hetero relationships so fantastically difficult that you would rather marry someone you can't communicate with, the problem is *absolutely* on your end. I mean…really?

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M
13 years ago

>their brave! multitasking makes for poor grammar and weird sentences

David Futrelle
13 years ago

>Scarecrow: You know, I saw a few comments to that effect somewhere. The fact is that everything posted on that site is pretty much identical to things being said on MGTOW sites every day. If anything, the comments are LESS crazy than much of the stuff I find on MGTOW sites. The names aren't really a red flag to me; I assume that he just gave them fake names to protect anonymity. (Somehow I doubt you're really named Scarecrow either.) But I do wonder where exactly he's getting these statements, which is why I put the word "allegedly" in my post. They may be fake. He may be writing them. Though they aren't all written in the same style, which makes me think there's a good chance they're real.That said, I think there's precisely zero chance the site is being put up by feminists to make MGTOWs etc look bad. There would be no reason for it. As anyone reading my blog knows already, there's stuff that is much much worse on many MGTOW sites, much of it written by people with such long track records of comments and posts that they couldn't possibly be feminist shills.

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M
13 years ago

>There was actually a discussion on a feminist blog I read sometimes about how the comments from the Marina are a huge fake red flag. One of the women commenting on the blog — I think it was Feministe — is married to or in a partnership with a Marine and immediately called foul on a Marine calling himself a "soldier" rather than a Marine. But yeah, I've read these kinds of comments on MRA/MGTOW sites plenty of times. It's probably just one weirdo who's made up comments to make it seem like the site is more than just him airing his grievances. Is this person the same one who's behind the Blogspot site "I Hate White Women"?

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M
13 years ago

>Marine! Not Marina! Yeegad I am going to have another coffee before I comment again.

ScareCrow
13 years ago

>My real name is ScareCrow.My real name is Richard – I use it on the SpearHead.Yup – that's right "Richard" on "The Spearhead". Troll away David.You could also get this info from my blog – I mention my name several times – and some comments do as well.@M:I think that in the future, MARINA might actually apply – aren't they gonna let gays in?Would a gay Marine be called a MARINA?Do you know the muffin man?

Dr. Deezee
13 years ago

>Most people only fake it at hating. I mean, just look at me. I built a whole internet machine to house my hatred.

Dr. Deezee
13 years ago

>Oh hey, I noticed your site's not giving me CAPTCHAs anymore. Did you set up a filter or something so that trusted users don't have to put them in or something, David? If so, nifty.

Jadehawk
13 years ago

>1)MRA or feminist agent provocateur is a false dichotomy. He might simply be an attention-starved moron with a sock-fetish2)Sorry to inform you scarecrow, but there's already gays in the Marines. They're called Marines.

David Futrelle
13 years ago

>Deezee, since posters here need to be registered, I figure the captcha isn't really necessary, so I've turned it off.

John Dias
13 years ago

>@David Futrelle:"You can be interested in something without wanting to become that something. Some people spend their lives studying slime molds. That doesn't mean they want to become slime molds."But an idea is far different from a physical substance. For example, a fungus that you were studying could be harmful if it escaped its petri dish and entered your lungs. But an idea can leap right off the page of a book or a Web site and travel straight into your mind — infecting it instantly but undetectably.Recently I watched a video on National Geographic about a psychological experiment that was designed to study the effects of prison confinement. It was known as the Zimbardo experiment (see video or Wikipedia article). The test subjects consisted of volunteers who allowed themselves to be incarcerated, and volunteers to acted as guards. During the experiment the "guards" became abusive toward the "inmates," and the inmates became aggressive and disrespectful toward the guards. Even the director of the study found himself strolling through the jail with his hands folded behind his back as he walked, which he later realized was his own unconscious way of projecting authority. His curiosity and thirst for knowledge had become eclipsed by his own psychological vulnerability, and the experiment had sucked in even him.You too can be infected by all of these Web sites and blog comments that you are seeking out. Your own mind can be more vulnerable to the power of a corrosive idea compared to a corrosive substance, precisely because you think that the idea is harmless to you.You being infected by an idea is bad enough. But the worst part of it all is that you might take the infestation that you invited into your own mind, and turn it around in the form of an accusation against others as though they somehow personify the filth that became your fetish. How could you have sufficient perspective to know for sure that this hasn't already happened to you?

Sandy
13 years ago

>"I think that in the future, MARINA might actually apply – aren't they gonna let gays in?Would a gay Marine be called a MARINA?Do you know the muffin man? "Scarecrow, you disgust me.

Dr. Deezee
13 years ago

>Speaking as a Marine, we generally just call gay Marines, you know, gay. The "less tolerant" redneck types use more colorful terms. I'm sure your imagination can provide them.

Bwec
13 years ago

>Come on David, this is hardly representative of MRA's Why don't you ever have anything to say about the majority of MRA articles. Every movement has its extreme ends. Even I express anger sometimes. Try finding some on my blog REBUKINGFEMINISM.BLOGSPOT.COM. Can you find anything?

Bwec
13 years ago

>Hmmm I also wonder why you focus on specific people and comments and not the message of Men's and Father's Rights itself. Your blog is entertaining but I get the distinct impression that you are trying to discredit the issues and concerns that men and boys face. Is this true? I would like to see you engage these issues directly.

Dr. Deezee
13 years ago

>There's been a few times where he has engaged major MRA sites directly. It's been about October, I think, since the last time he did though.

David Futrelle
13 years ago

>I've broadened the focus of this blog to misogyny in general. That's what I'm interested in writing about, and so that's what I write about. Sometimes the people I write about are MRAs, sometimes they aren't — or at least I have no way of knowing whether they consider themselves MRAs or not. That's the case with the guy I'm writing about here, and because of that you'll notice that I don't refer to him as an MRA and there is no MRA tag at the end of the post.I have taken on MR issues directly in the past, and will continue to do so, on my own schedule. But, you know, it's my blog, and I write about what I want to write about, not what MRAs want me to write about. You are free to ignore the blog if you. If you look in the "further reading" list in the sidebar, you will see some guides to some major MR issues and links to people who have written about them in more detail.

Yohan
13 years ago

>M said: I've read these kinds of comments on MRA/MGTOW sites plenty of times. http://boycottamericanwomen.blogspot.com/This blog has nothing to do with the MRAs.It's likely related to these many US-men/foreign women internet dating websites.Its content is like a copy/paste of (edited) comments from members introducing themselves when signing up with international dating websites. I do not think, they are fakes.M said: "importing" spouses from poor countries Many foreign spouses are not poor. And I would be careful to consider USA as a 'rich' country for everybody.Plenty of US-citizens are living on social welfare, are jobless, homeless or in jail etc.M said: Is this person the same one who's behind the Blogspot site "I Hate White Women"? Not sure.Not all American women are 'white women'.Foreign spouses are not necessarily 'Asians' either.

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M
13 years ago

>I said nothing about America being a country in which all people are rich, nor did I imply that all American women are white. The two websites had similar language. You seem to be a master at drawing baseless conclusions from comments–it's actually almost impressive!My comments about foreign spouses and power iniquity were specifically about the phenomenon of men seeking spouses from *relatively* disadvantaged regions, spouses who are seeking to find greater opportunity in the *relatively* advantaged West, and I thought that was pretty clear. I am not talking about all instances of people marrying across nationality, obviously.

Yohan
13 years ago

>David Futrelle said… I've broadened the focus of this blog to misogyny in general. That's what I'm interested in writing about, and so that's what I write about. It would be interesting to hear your definition of 'misogyny'.As far as I understand the meaning of this word, misogyny means to hate ALL females.However to say, foreign women only, this is not misogyny.To be against feminism is NOT misogyny either.

David Futrelle
13 years ago

>Somehow I think that someone hating every natural born woman in his country and in the whole English speaking world still counts as misogyny.