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Don’t let it be said that Men Going Their Own Way lack Christmas spirit. On the MGTOW message boards today hanzblinx asks the rest of the fellows to “suggest a holiday gift for my gf.” Nothing fancy, just something that makes her feel special. Well, not that special. Actually, not very special at all:
OK I know the first answers will be..
apron
oven mitts
mop
dustcloth
g-string
but what exactly can I get my GF for Christmas for about $30 that would not inflate her ego too much? Is there a book? A CD? Anything?
Hmm. Given that she’s dating a dude who hangs out on the MGTOW message boards, I wouldn’t think there would be much danger of hansblinx’s alleged girlfriend having an excess of self-esteem, or really any at all, but what sort of gift do you give a gal that will help keep her ego permanently deflated? A framed picture of a female friend you think looks prettier than her? Sexy lingerie several sizes too small? A “Does My Fat Ass Make My Ass Look Fat” bumper sticker? An “I’m a Cunt” t-shirt? A “Shut Your Whore Mouth” needlepoint kit?
Actually, that last one sort of rocks.
>Lots of good advice there Manboobz.
>What will you be getting your girl friend Manboobz?
>Wait, I thought the idea of MGTOW was to not have girlfriends.
>Miggytows don't have actual "girlfriends" – he's referring to his RealDoll (google it) if he's a miggy of means, otherwise, just your standard inflatable "love doll."I kind of like the Shut Your Whore Mouth kit also. Perhaps displayed in the kitchen?
>Sandy said… Wait, I thought the idea of MGTOW was to not have girlfriends Not true… that is feminist slander only. Many MRAs have girlfriends or wives.
>I guess I could understand why dude is having a problem choosing what gift to buy. If you don't like the person and are only dating them for sex and free maid service, it's tricky. The g-string is a bad idea, she might get the idea that she's good in bed and move on to someone else. The apron is a bad idea, she might like to cook and eat and then she'll gain 5 lbs. OH NO! The all around 'I think you're inferior and are only here to serve me' gift would be the mop. I'm voting mop.
>I wonder what the girl will buy for the boy. Who says – as we are all equals – that gifts are moving only from the boy to the girl?About girlfriends and wives, this is what MRAs really like. MRAs are straight people. There are also female MRAs btw. These are women who like the idea to have a husband and to create a family.Feminists are more into single mother – sperm donor, lesbian couples, ladyboys and similar relationship.Cooking is not what feminists really like, and most professional and successful cooks are men, check out 5-class restaurants and hotels.About free maid services, feminists are known to employ housemaids, usually filipinas or latinas to do shopping, cleaning, laundry for very little pay in return.
>"Feminists are more into single mother – sperm donor, lesbian couples, ladyboys and similar relationship."Wow. You're an idiot.
>Yohan, of course I know MRAs have girlfriends and wives. But I thought Men Going Their Own Way was about Men Going Their Own Way, without women.This isn't a feminist propaganda problem, I don't read feminist sites. It's funny that you always see the world through that lens.
>Further proof that they're basically a message board for abusers. I mean, who but an abuser seeks advice on how to give a gift to meet a minimum requirement so she doesn't have an excuse to leave, but to make sure it's one that sends the message that she's undeserving of love?
>I can't believe no one has brought up Dick-in-a-Box. meme FAIL
>I love how Yohan is all, "The feminists are misrepresenting abusive men!" and then proceeds to list out a bunch of completely inaccurate generalizations about feminists. Congrats, dude. That is an impressive amount of cognitive dissonance you've got going on.
>The best thing about feminism is that it means whatever you want it to mean, when it's convenient for you to have it mean that!
>Deezee, you're thinking of postmodernism. And yes, it is my favorite ism.
>@Amanda Marcotte,"Further proof that they're basically a message board for abusers. I mean, who but an abuser seeks advice on how to give a gift to meet a minimum requirement so she doesn't have an excuse to leave, but to make sure it's one that sends the message that she's undeserving of love?"I second this. The MRM isn't known as the Abuser's Lobby for nothing.
>Feminism represents a spectrum of views; MRA's just have a tendency to focus on the extreme end of militant man-hating feminism (which undeniably exists) and to characterise all feminists as proponents of this view (which they undeniably aren't). It's not terribly complicated to understand that large movements have different factions (Christianity, for instance, has hundreds), so I assume this is a deliberate misrepresentation on the part of some MRA's to fuel their own paranoia.There is no 'party line' in feminism, so the most one can expect is that individuals remain consistent in their own interpretation, not that they all agree with each other's. I expect this point will be lost on many radical MRAs; bigots rarely comprehend nuance.
>Blackwell said… MRA's just have a tendency to focus on the extreme end of militant man-hating feminism (which undeniably exists)…Militant man-hating feminism does not exist everywhere.The most hateful feminism you will find in USA/UK. It's not everywhere like that.A good example of hateful US-feminism is this blog of DAVID, which was solely created for the purpose to slander ALL MRAs, regardless their arguments, regardless from which country, even considering FEMALE MRAs as 'enemy'.http://equalbutdifferent.blogspot.com/2010/10/i-have-been-declared-enemy.htmlOf course, what response do you expect from men in return?There is no 'party line' in feminism Similar to your example, Christianity, there is a party-line. Either you are a Christian or a Muslim. You cannot be both, despite both religions are rather similar to each other.You cannot be a Christian and a Hindu at the same time either, despite both religions are rather different to each other.The party-line of feminism is clear. It is about to sell equality, while no equality exists, it's about selling water for men and wine for women for the same price, claiming water and wine are the same because you can drink them. Everybody, who questions this 'party-line' is considered to be an enemy.See my link above.
>What about Unitarians?
>Sandy said… Yohan, … This isn't a feminist propaganda problem, I don't read feminist sites. Well, you are posting here, in David's Manboobz, which is truly an US-feminist propaganda hate-blog at its finest.MRAs always recommend to read feminist blogs. – And compare them with MRA-related forums.This thread is about a 'gift'. It's solely about a 'gift' from men to women.Interesting, feminists talk about equality, but never talk about a gift from a woman to a man.
>No it's not, Yohan. I read this blog because I used to read MRA sites and became frustrated and disgusted, so I gave it up.Of course women should also give gifts to men. Only the straw men in your head think otherwise.
> Christina said… "Feminists are more into single mother – sperm donor, lesbian couples, ladyboys and similar relationship."Wow. You're an idiot. For sure long-term marriage/family with an honest man has not much value in the feminist mindset. Feminists are telling us they do not need us. OK, so please go your own way… or admire an exciting thug-boy or run after rich celebrities.Feminists on the radical side even wants to kill us or to keep us in cages. But not all feminists are like that. For most feminists, men are like tools, use them and if broken take the next one.Marriage/divorce turns out often to be a very lucrative business.Of course men who are going their own way after being disappointed and badly cheated by feminist women, are either MRAs or idiots or both…
>Eoghan, that statement is baseless.
>"A good example of hateful US-feminism is this blog of DAVID, which was solely created for the purpose to slander ALL MRAs, regardless their arguments, regardless from which country, even considering FEMALE MRAs as 'enemy'"Yohan, how do I slander "ALL MRAs" by quoting the words of particular MRAs and MGTOW? In the case of the person here, he's posting in an MGTOW forum, so it's pretty clear that's what he is. I didn't say he represented ALL MRAs; I actually didn't say he was an MRA at all, because for all I know he doesn't consider himself one, though I imagine he probably does.Also, why does it matter that I critique FEMALE MRAs? Why shouldn't I, if I disagree with them? What difference does their gender make? Anyway, shortly after complaining I'm slandering ALL MRAs by quoting some of them, you launch into a series of ludicrous, and completely unsupported, generalizations about feminists, including this:"For most feminists, men are like tools, use them and if broken take the next one." I should assemble a "greatest hits" collection of your strangest assertions about feminism. They get more bizarre by the day.
>Sandy, don't bother responding to Eoghan. I banned him for being disruptive/repeatedly misrepresenting other people. Blogger doesn't let you ban individual commenters (without moderating all comments, which I don't want to do), so if he comments here, as he sometimes still does, his comments will remain up until I see them and delete them.
>I am not EOGHAN, this is a different person. I do not know who is EOGHAN.My name is YOHAN.David Futrelle said… Yohan, how do I slander "ALL MRAs" by quoting the words of particular MRAs and MGTOW? Well, you are signing up with a fake-ID, as obviously you are a coward to use your real name in our forums.Next, you disregard a huge part of our MRA-forums totally, and pick out ONE comment (one out of maybe 500.000) usually from the members-only RANT-section, then you delete and edit what fits you and add your own words…Finally what you post here is totally out of context.