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Here are some of the things I have, er, “learned” about women from reading Men’s Rights/Men Going Their Own Way blogs and message boards.
This is part one in what will be, I suspect, a very lengthy series.
Women are: The missing link
All in all I am thoroughly convinced that women have all contempt for human life and are the missing link between apes and humans. This is a gender war, a GENDER WAR! and small innocent babies that are murdered and children that get abused are caught in the crossfires, and these females are utterly fucking useless and a waste of fucking breathing space. They have shown their true colors and we don’t need them anymore.
Women are: Nuclear waste
I have come to the conclusion that it’s not enough to avoid romantic relations with women. A man should take extra precautions to avoid even the most casual contact. Regard them as nuclear waste or a highly contagious disease.
Women are: In violation of the Geneva Convention
Women have no idea what they want, they need to be told and controlled. If you are too nice or become apathetic, you are fucking doomed. Either way, if you get married, you are doomed. Women are cunts, and they are absolute masters of mental torture and abuse. If we simply hired bitches to interrogate and torture all captured terrorists, the war on terror would be over in less than a year.
Women are: Unlovable humans
Men are lovable humans, unlike women. Men are the greatest ever treasure of gold, whom women worthless could never compare to or ever hold a candle to. … the male sex is ever superior to the weaker female one. Men in India are mistreated vis-à-vis females, to get the bitches feel dignified. This is against nature. … Men are taken advantage of by bitches (the woman race). … Woe betide women. I hate them too much, girls too.
NOTE: These comments do not reflect the opinions of all MRAs. But these sorts of things are posted constantly on MRA/MGTOW blogs and message boards, and are rarely challenged. Some, like the first comment here, may even receive multiple upvotes from other readers,
>Eoghan, this is why it is pointless to argue with you. Natasha, could you give specific examples of me opposing the rights of men?
>David, noted that MRA's are allowed to post here….but just to clarify, I was addressing this comment from Natasha: "you're just cluttering the thread with old shitastic pseudo arguments."Natasha, I believe that I made it clear in either my first or second comment on this thread that I am familiar with the tactics that MRA's use in order to derail any conversation or critisim away from them. The MRA's that I have dealt with are terrific at making sure that they are always on the offensive rather than the defensive. I refuse to play this game. So either address what I said, or my conversation with you is over.
>David"Eoghan, this is why it is pointless to argue with you".Because I back up what I say? How is a book that uses "sparse prehistoric evidence" that just happens to back up feminist theory not political fiction? Anyone can follow the link and see the book basically being described as a piece of political fiction.
>Natasha, you said: "Most of the site staff on the more mainstream mrm blogs/sites have just lately started to clean up the crazy juice from their membership, realizing that it does NOT do the mrm any good and that it DOES get picked up by feminist blogs and used to inaccurately characterize the more serious, active posters."LOL, yeah….I BET they are.
>Eoghan, EVERY historian who writes about prehistory is dealing with "sparse evidence." She discusses the evidence she uses in gresat detail, and draws conclusions from it cautiously and thoughtfully, carefully considering what archeologists and anthropolgists have written. And Lerner's book is not just about prehistory.She uses, among other primary sources: law codes, economic records, art and artifacts, correspondence between historical figures, religious literature and mythology, philosophical writing by Aristotle. Not to mention an extensive array of secondary sources by archeologists, anthropologists, religious scholars, etc etc etc. But no, you'll dismiss it based on one sentence in a review which you've interpreted in a perverse and ignorant way.
>and her book just happens to correlate and back up modern political constructs…Feminism isn't known for producing genuine research David."A recent enlarged edition of this book provided extensive documentation from current feminist writings of the continuation, and indeed exacerbation, of these practices. Routinely challenged by feminists who declare that "all education is political," Patai has responded with the claim that this view is simplistic. She argues that a significant difference exists between the reality that education may have political implications and the intentional use of education to indoctrinate. The latter, she argues, is no more acceptable when done by feminists than when done by fundamentalists."http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daphne_Patai
>Natasha:Make sure they delete these posts from these, um….nonserious, inactive posters. LOL LOL LOL!!!http://www.the-niceguy.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=48908http://www.the-niceguy.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=41674http://www.the-spearhead.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=2187(Wow, I see that they've already cleaned this one up. But still not quite enough. They don't really HAVE to refer outright to women as cunts in order to turn normal people away. That's the beauty of the MRM.)http://mgtow.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=general&thread=4175&page=1 http://mgtow.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=282
>So mrm sites should not permit the crazies to post offensive shit…but then if they clean it up, they're what? hiding something? Guilty of something? What exactly are you implying other than to your mind it doesnt make a difference what they do they'll always be wrong? Somehow I think the mrm will live without your endorsement.Four hours ago I asked these questions of you, do you wish to answer them or are you going to avoid them?1. The MRM's goal is not to oppress women, the MRM's goal is for legal, educational and social equality. Is that not also what feminism wants as well? Is it fair the almost always the default custodial parent in divorce is the mother? Is it fair that women rarely pay spousal or child support in the event of a divorce? What are your thoughts on these topics?2. Why would you feel sorry for a woman who chooses to belong to a certain group? I don;t feel sorry for you that you're a feminist.3. Can you not admit that both sides engage in hyperbolic arguments? That we both have a less than stellar element at times that choose to be in the forefront and making the rest of us groan and that should NEVER serve as the yardstick by which the entire movement should be measured?
>John Dias said… @Yohan:"About Miekyo…He can be reached via private message on NiceGuy's forum; his username is "Meikyo" (profile here) I see, but this is a rather inactive member, never even logging into the forum since over half a year and he made only a few postings.Miranda said… Natasha:Make sure they delete these posts from these, um….nonserious, inactive posters. LOL LOL LOL!!! Thank you for signing up in the Niceguy-Forum, maybe you should introduce yourself in the Introduction-Sector. I was checking these 2 threads you refer.It is amazing how many feminist trolls are browsing our forums and are too afraid to introduce themselves. Hugo was signing up, and David and now 'Mirinda'.I do not see a member called Mirinda in the Niceguy-Forum however.You refer to 2 posting in the rant-section, with a link to another article somewhere out in the internet, and what members say is rather gender neutral, for example by Ragnar:We got guys who do drugs and abuse alcohol as well as the woman who park her car in a railway-crossing etc.We also have people who live without thinking about tomorrow.Could we change our culture in a direction like NOT helping those who simply are stupid.What is wrong with this comment?The other posting/thread is also in the RANT section, where angry men can talk what they REALLY think, and he says he is rather angry with other men, who have a criminal record, homeless and taken away 10 years of savings, because they were acting in a very stupid way with women.What's wrong with that?And yes, not every man has a high academic education and not every man is able to write comments like David, who is introducing himself as a professional writer. Many men are low-educated and do not have much possibility to improve their writing style. As feminist you should know, that men are getting much less support than women if they wish to improve their education.
>I'm curious to know why it is you refer to me as a feminist.
>@ MirandaBecause your behavior is feminist.'I see that they've already cleaned this one up. But still not quite enough'MRAs will hardly accept advice from feminists about how they have to 'clean up' their own forums or blogs….
>Sorry, Yohan. I know that you are superior to me and all, and should therefore be able to call all the shots, but you don't get to say whether or not I am a feminist. Do you not know that?
>Yohan, there is a thread devoted entirely to me on the Nice guy forum. When I found out my curiousity got the better of me. I felt special for a while, but then I remembered who it was that was discussing me. Then I just felt….dirty.
>Sorry, Yohan. I know that you are superior to me and all, and should therefore be able to call all the shots, but you don't get to say whether or not I am a feminist.Yet you get to say he thinks he's superior to you.If I see someone screaming racist obscenities at minorities, I'm going to call that person a racist. If I see someone banging their head against a door, I'm going to call them stupid. If I see someone who thinks women can't live without preferential treatment, I'll call them a feminist.
>IR, so you're basically saying that if it walks like a duck and talks like a duck, then it must be a duck, right?I'm glad you understand that. Now maybe you can understand why the MRM guys as a whole are looked upon as misogynist sociopaths. If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck……Thanks for proving my point.
>Natasha, Is this indicative of the types of women who are allowed to have a voice in the MR forums?http://www.the-spearhead.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=97And by this I mean, the types of women who wear skirts down to their ankles and won't wear clothing that bares their arms?If so, then thanks but no thanks. You have fun with those men. They only accept you because you know your place (which is in the kitchen). Am I wrong?I'll be happy to make my man a sammich any day, but only because he treats me with respect, not because he has the right of control over me by birth default.
>Miranda–your ascribing to me certain traits and appearance based on a conversation on a message board that I didnt even participate in? You're actually saying that I agree with everything that is ever said in every mrm forum ever?If that's the case, then I suppose you wont be upset and will welcome, in the interest of fairness of course, every quote that's ever been published by a supporter of feminism? And how fascinating that you "know" why a specific group of people accept me. Or that you even "know" Im accepted by them. Your post is foolish and pathetic and completely indicative of where your head is at. You don't seem real interested in actually discussing anything with anyone who has an opinion that differs from yours; you only seem to want to put words in their mouths, tell them what they 'really' think and throw insults around in an attempt to distract people from their point.Its now been over 24 hours since I've asked you some pointed questions, and you have refused to answer. How about instead of the juvenile crap you just answer them?1. The MRM's goal is not to oppress women, the MRM's goal is for legal, educational and social equality. Is that not also what feminism wants as well? Is it fair the almost always the default custodial parent in divorce is the mother? Is it fair that women rarely pay spousal or child support in the event of a divorce? What are your thoughts on these topics?2. Why would you feel sorry for a woman who chooses to belong to a certain group? I don;t feel sorry for you that you're a feminist.3. Can you not admit that both sides engage in hyperbolic arguments? That we both have a less than stellar element at times that choose to be in the forefront and making the rest of us groan and that should NEVER serve as the yardstick by which the entire movement should be measured? And as far as my "place" or my appearance, or my "style" goes….if thats the image of me that makes you feel better love, go ahead and have it, it couldn't be further from the truth lol
>Miranda said… Yohan, there is a thread devoted entirely to me on the Nice guy forum…I am not sure, which thread you mean, maybe this one about facebook? There are various threads which contain the name 'Miranda'. The forum has now over 500000 comments.BTW, Thanks for signing up with the Niceguy-Forum.Why do you not sign up using the ID of MIRANDA?If there is a thread devoted to you, why do you not comment there? Why are you in hiding and avoiding the introduction thread?Again, about what thread are you talking? About Facebook? MGTOW Misunderstood:Some hypocritical girl named Miranda Lollis slanders a MGTOW page on facebook. After a short moment she disabled all people who disagreed with her from posting on her profile post:Note that everything she said has been debunked on the MGTOW page.Nevertheless, I think people misunderstand what MGTOW stands for, which harms MGTOW in general, and the popularity of it.Is this this thread?If YES, maybe you can explain to us, what answers did you expect in return of your comments on the MGTOW facebook page?Janusz Rzeżnik: So, Miranda, you walk onto this page where men who are fed up with the current …zeitgeist congregate and complain about what's posted there. You start out by saying, "God, you people are a bunch of pathetic dicks."Miranda Lollis You should also be aware that I eat woman-degrading morons who dare to defend the Psych Ward for breakfast. You would be wise to consider tucking your tail between your little legs and scurring back to the grotto from whence you came.Miranda Lollis Hmm….Which assumption of mine are you classifying as "Brazen"? Is it the classification of the group as the Psych Ward of Facebook? the fact that they are women-hating clones of my ex? or the fact that they are a bunch of dumbasses? Did you type these comments?
>Yohan, you're a "global moderator" of a forum connected to "NiceGuys's Ameriskanks Suck" page, from which you got these comments, and you're complaining about namecalling?Do you want me to post what the guys there called her? Do you want me to dig out the thread there about me? Do you happen to remember what that was called? (HINT: It contained the phrase "disgusting mangina.") Or what you yourself called me in that thread? Please don't pretend that you can take the moral high ground here.
>Please don't pretend that you can take the moral high ground here. I am posting here my comments using the same name as in the Niceguy-forum. No secrets about my identity.I said you are a coward, as you were signing up in our forum with a fake-ID. After signing up successfully you copied some fragments of comments from our forum-members, distorted them out of context and finally mixed them up with some anti-male (MRA = woman-hating etc.) comments into this blog.That's truly feminist dishonest propaganda. The word 'disgusting mangina' is not my creation however. Yes, I am one of the moderators of the Niceguy-Forum, however I am in no way related to this mentioned Facebook-Page. If you walk into any MRA-page as a feminist troll as 'Miranda' obviously did and are calling everybody 'a bunch of pathetic dicks', then you should not be surprised to receive a similar response in return.
>Yeah, you didn't call me a "disgusting mangina," you just called me a "super-mangina." You want me to post more of what was said about this blog in that topic? The whole "cluebatting" squad the guys there sent over to pester me and spam this blog?
>Super-mangina!Consider this as a compliment.Niceguy-Forum has nothing to hide – it is you who is lurking around using a fake-ID.I wonder why you are so afraid to sign up with your regular name in our forum?
>YohanThis conversation interests me, this is my position on the minority of extremists in the mrm.Historically progressivism has taken the behaviour of an extreme minority and used it to stereotypes and marginalize whole groups quite successfully. They did it to Jews, black men in american and today feminism uses the minority of violent men to stereotype and marginalize all men. You see it happening here, the blog is based on the same tactic, a minority of comments are used to stereotype the whole, and its second nature to some of the contributers.So I sometimes wonder why a small portion of the online mens movement so willingly hands over useful propaganda given that its obvious that its going to be used against the whole movements and abuse victims in the way we see here.Rhetorical discipline seems to me to be more beneficial to the movement rather than facilitating the publishing of rhetoric that is damaging.That said I do understand that there is nowhere else to go for men that have been fucked by the system and that its important for them to have support, I just wonder if there is another way given that we know how these people operate.
>"So I sometimes wonder why a small portion of the online mens movement so willingly hands over useful propaganda given that its obvious that its going to be used against the whole movements and abuse victims in the way we see here."Anger, I think. So many men have been hurt so badly by feminism and want to vent, and not everyone is as intellectually disciplined as us. That's not sufficient to explain the REALLY bad comments though(the ones that call George Sodini a hero and Saudi Arabia a model society). I think many of those are posted by feminists themselves to smear us although I do have the displeasure of knowing a few MRAs who actually think these things…
>@Eoghan @ColdIt's a difference if you write a blog yourself and collect solely comments, or if you have to administrate/moderate a forum with many members.What we do with the Niceguy-Forum (and I think, most Men's Rights Forums are doing it in a similar form) is to offer some sectors to our members:Trolleville – for trolls, posting nonsenseOpposing view – might be used by feminists with polite arguments etc.Rants – for angry men, speak out what you think, we will listen.Girls gone wild – Reports about malicious women, criminal women, etc. to show that women are not only 'victims'.Men getting shafted – Reports of men misused by the laws/rulings. Information about laws in USA and also about other countries.Men going their own way – about what I did, and how I did it.There is also some sections for travel, humour and other stuff, computers, even conspiracy theories, religion etc.—– Of course people like David are nitpicking in the RANT section only and ignore all the other stuff in the MRA-forums.Such people like David are unwilling or unable to ask constructive neutral questions, for example: WHY are you an MRA?HOW do you see your life now and your past and future?WHAT do you think, should really be changed in our laws? What is unfair against you? etc.He considers all men with problems regarding females more or less as bad people. There is no male victim in his little mindset. No sincere dialog is therefore possible as he is brainwashed and biased in his opinion.David's communication ability is therefore limited to sign up with a fake-ID lurking in MRAs internet-pages and posting some suggestive comments against men on his blog.About David I guess he is a very lonely, unhappy and narrow-minded person. While he is searching about any bad information regarding MRAs and adores feminists, he remains silent about his own life-style. I noticed also he has no idea about anything beyond the borders of USA.