>Creepy Dude Tech: Design your own Asian girl!

>"like your secret lover or ex-girlfriend"… *shudder*

>How can you plausibly tie in this iPhone app with the men's rights movement?

>John: There are numerous MRAs who are convinced that "western women suck" and who loudly proclaim the superiority of Asian woman. There are also a number of MRAs who consider masturbatory aids and sex bots to be, at least for their purposes, superior to women. Obviously not all MRAs feel this way, but I think there's a bit of demographic overlap between MRAs and the intended consumers of this app.

>"What? No Japan?! Luckily they all look alike."Thanks for exposing your racism for all of us to see.

>"I think there's a bit of demographic overlap between MRAs and the intended consumers of this app."I think there's a bit of demographic overlap between feminists and the intended consumers of all the stray cats found at animal shelters.

>Actually if that line really was supposed to be someone else's POV, then my comment exposing your racism was also someone else's POV. In fact, I'll let you know right now that anything I say which you try to use to against me in the future is from the POV of someone else and not my own opinion.

>Well, racism is considered to be a form of ignorance, but the reverse isn't true.If someone were to say, apologetically, "I'm very sorry for confusing you two but I honestly can't tell you apart" then I could accept that it was just ignorance, but "Luckily they all look alike" smacks of both ignorance and racism.

>"Do they know that their images are being used for this?"Are they so full of themselves that they would give a fuck?

>@ ChristinaChristina said: "Maybe you wouldn't give a fuck if your image was being used for profit without your knowledge, being provided to creepazoids to masturbate to, but other people have self-esteem."Christina you do realize that it is highly likely that someone has seen you, fantasized about you, and pleasured themselves to your mental image, don't you? Do you and your feminists friends want to pass a law against that in order to guard your self esteem? Are all laws now supposed to based upon the "crimes" effect on a woman's self esteem? The bottom line for me is that there is no harm done, so it shouldn't be an issue. Random Brother

>Sex positive, based on the meanings given for each individual word in the dictionary, means thinking positively about sex. That's all; if you want to stipulate your own alternate definition that throws in concepts like agency that's fine, but none of us are under any obligation to pay any heed to it. I, personally, will stick to the dictionary definitions of the words.Also, you have no fucking idea whether or not any girls had their images used without their consent to make the app, so you have no business speculating about the probability being "not likely". Of course, being a typical feminist, I shouldn't expect you to pay any heed to things like logic, intellectual honesty, or the conventions of language.

>Do we have any actual proof that these images are being used without consent?

>David Futrelle wrote: "John: There are numerous MRAs who are convinced that "western women suck" and who loudly proclaim the superiority of Asian woman."Pain does lead many people to associate with a movement that acknowledges that pain and seeks to alleviate it. If a man feels like a success object in American culture, then why should he date women who mirror that culture (causing the pain)? A rational person avoids pain, instead of embracing it.David Futrelle wrote: "The reason that some Eastern women are more agreeable to Western men has less to do with culture than it does with economics. Women in the west have more options, and so are less willing to put up with crap from Western men"That's a rather Marxist way of looking at things. The more accurate way of looking at it is that such women are influenced by values of their parents. It's a cultural thing, and in my view a largely positive outgrowth of culture to the extent that it takes root. I used to live in Orange County, California, where there is the highest concentration of Vietnamese people anywhere outside of Vietnam. And I remember seeing girls there who were raised in America for most (if not all) of their lives. Their standard of living in the O.C. was obviously quite good, and yet their polite and respectful mannerisms reflected the culture of their parents. There were exceptions, I admit, but they merely proved the observed rule.I do, however, agree that economics does play its part in shaping a person's outlook. Excessive materialism has a diminishing effect on modesty and respectfulness; the more libertine the culture, the less sensitive and respectful its people. If men look to expatriate and move to a less libertine, less materialistic country, then they will probably be living more modest lives themselves, and so it's not hypocritical for such men to seek out the kind of women that appeal to them.You might say that the MRAs fixate on the faults of American women while neglecting those of the men. But seeking a mate is not a political question. Since these men are heterosexual, logically they largely ignore the men and zero in on how women are infected by the negative aspects of American culture. Of course, implicit in their praise of eastern women and disdain for western women is the "NAWALT" acknowledgment, namely "Not All Women Are Like That." But that does not negate the point being made, nor does it elevate western culture beyond reproach. And it certainly does not justify the abandonment of rational thinking, with men rejecting the prospect of putting themselves in legal jeopardy by cohabiting with or legally marrying women under American law. 70% of divorces are initiated by women; men don't have any obligation to put their necks on the chopping block in the hopes that the axe of divorce will miss its mark.Ultimately, the MRA critique of American women that you seem to equate with misogyny is merely an expression of preference. These men prefer feminine, respectful women. Don't assume, in sexist fashion, that women everywhere are alike all economics being equal. There are also cultural and spiritual dimensions that play a powerful role, transcending that of economics. Would you impose your sexual preferences upon another man? Would you shame him into dating a woman who feels liberated enough to relentlessly point out his flaws (real or imagined), while expecting to be wined and dined? Aren't men entitled to their own preferences in selecting a mate?Needless to say, for a man to have sexual preferences is perfectly reasonable in my opinion. It's not creepy for a man to have criteria that he looks for in a mate. However, I think that it actually is a bit creepy for someone to imply that men have a duty to date American women or to bury their observations of the cultural differences between American and non-American women.