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I’ve been watching the Men’s Rights movement, such as it is, for some time, with a mixture of amusement, horror and disgust. It’s a movement that’s bad for everyone — for men, for women, for children, and probably even for my cat, though I haven’t yet quite worked out how. The best thing you can say about the Men’s Rights Movement is that it doesn’t, and hopefully never will, have anything near the impact on the world that feminism has had over the years. And this blog, in its own little way, hopes to help keep that way.
So in this blog I hope to take on the assorted myths promulgated by the Men’s Rights Movement, to dismantle their rickety logic and their dubious statistics. I’ll round up assorted examples of misogyny, mendacity and just plain stupidity from MRA’s online and off. And I’ll highlight some of the best anti-MRA arguments I can find.
As for the boobz in the title, I do not refer to those rounded lumps of flesh and fat on the chests of women and some men. I refer to the classic definition of boob as “a stupid or foolish person; a dolt.” Too many MRA’s, alas, fit this definition to a T.
Oh, and the Z on the end of “boobz?” Someone else already took the “manboobs” URL. So I improvised. I’m crafty.
@Ohlmann
He did? Usually David announces when he bans a troll.
I think people like Acid are why the word “man” might not mean anything to me. They never gave it any positive value maybe? I can choose to use any of the words and I’m more interested in how I can use them helpfully. I don’t want to help socially neglectful people.
I’ve had too much on my mind to think about it much, but I’ve been thinking “gender null” might be worth looking at. It’s confusing because I did not have a reason to think about it until now, and that’s because I there are elements of privilge to it.
@Naglfar
And he’s actually stated that he doesn’t really like actually using the word “tranny.” He only used it this time, because he thinks you’re a transtrender.
I don’t necessarily think that, but he’s very respectful of me and has even defended me, unlike your guys’ attacks against me.
@Lainy why are you always lying? | Social Media | Facebook |► – RoboKitty (wordpress.com)
While I don’t agree with every word he uses (such as “mangina,” for example), but it is certainly better than y’all’s attitude toward me so far. You haven’t exactly been welcoming.
He only used it because he thinks you’re a transtrender. He has actually been quite nice towards me, and some of his favorite people are trans.
A slander campaign is not okay either way.
He clearly is.
He only said that in response to Jezebel literally admitting that they abuse their boyfriends, and happily so.
And he only said to abuse VIOLENT women, not all women. If you think all women are violent, then something is clearly wrong.
Can’t wait to see it.
Already debunked it. Just gotta debunk it on my website.
Another article to debunk!
And another.
Really, now? If you had actually supplied proof for any of your other claims, I would have looked at them.
But you haven’t.
Alright, I will. I’ll put it in my “List” comment, so that way I also have time to give a good, detailed research.
Then why not give me a link to the tag?
Only ABUSIVE women.
If you honestly think abusive women = all women, then you seriously need to rethink yourself.
Wow, you admit something for once!
Take a good look around, and tell me that again.
Stop demeaning me, and I won’t be ridiculous back.
Y’all were mad that I was making too long of comment, so I fixed that.
But now you don’t like it?
Make up your mind.
@Lainy
If you are actually getting mad at an elementary school insult, that’s pretty sad.
No.
I’m borderline autistic, across the whole spectrum. 50 to 60% for each part.
My sister has ADHD so bad that she actually ends up having basically seizures sometimes.
You’re not the only one out there.
And, guess what?
Plenty of MRAs are autistic.
You’re not the only one with autism or the only one on the autism scale.
Oh, you’re done?
Done being a bully and demeaning me?
“Kids”? There’s only one guy there. And guess what? He didn’t mock you for being raped. He doesn’t believe you, but he didn’t mock you. Big difference.
Wow, the first nice thing you’ve said!
“Survivors”? What about when I’ve been mocked, hated on, not believed, etc. by feminists?
You’re right, it’s better for everyone for me not to be a feminist.
I wouldn’t want to be cruel like you.
@Lainy
Wow, sounds like someone who got tired of never providing proof or evidence for their claims, especially of their claims of women having it worse.
Oh, wow, the person is done? Because of what, you ask?
I’ll tell you.
You’re tired that I caught onto your manipulation.
Of you trying to twist what I say.
Of you trying to abuse me into your beliefs.
I’m not going to let you manipulate me anymore.
You’re a narcissitic psychopath.
You like to make up things, ignore what’s being said, twist words, commit slander campaigns, and more.
Manipulative.
You make up lies, including those about RoboKitty, “women having it worse,” harassment, etc.
Pretense.
You make up lies about RoboKitty, MRAs, MGTOW, and others, including MRA and pro-MRA women.
Slander campaign.
You act like your point of view or words are somehow more important and reliable than everyone else. You might also even have a spot of low self esteem, though I wouldn’t know.
Narcissism.
You attempt to put me and others like me below you, and yourself above everyone else.
Demean.
You try to beat down anyone you disagree with, and make threats that you think will silence them. You also use childish insults to undermine them, and when they point out that they don’t care about the insults, you use them pointing it out to your advantage, to try to land another blow. All to make them out to be less.
Bully.
You complain whenever someone doesn’t provide a link or evidence to prove their point, but don’t try to ever provide evidence, even when it’s pointed out to you.
Hypocrite.
You ignore any evidence, points of view, or other that don’t agree with your worldview.
Willfully ignorant.
You’re cruel, aggressive, manipulative, a liar, someone who starts slander campaigns, narcissistic, someone who demeans and bullies others, a hypocrite, willfully ignorant, and more.
Psychopathic.
Oh, my god.
Get help.
It’s hard to take you seriously when you say this.
Why would I want that?
I’m a teenager. Not interested in getting pregnant on accident or anything.
Go ahead, take a look at my analysis of you above.
Already have had a couple boyfriends. One was black, the other white, I believe.
Also, if you don’t want me to analyze you like this again, then don’t do the behavior.
It wasn’t automatically coming up, so I just figured out that it was probably because I need to block some words, so I did that.
Here it is:
@Naglfar
And he’s actually stated that he doesn’t really like actually using the word “tr*nny.” He only used it this time, because he thinks you’re a transtrender.
I don’t necessarily think that, but he’s very respectful of me and has even defended me, unlike your guys’ attacks against me.
@Lainy why are you always lying? | Social Media | Facebook |► – RoboKitty (wordpress.com)
While I don’t agree with every word he uses (such as “m*ngina,” for example), but it is certainly better than y’all’s attitude toward me so far. You haven’t exactly been welcoming.
He only used it because he thinks you’re a transtrender. He has actually been quite nice towards me, and some of his favorite people are trans.
A slander campaign is not okay either way.
He clearly is.
He only said that in response to Jezebel literally admitting that they abuse their boyfriends, and happily so.
And he only said to abuse VIOLENT women, not all women. If you think all women are violent, then something is clearly wrong with you.
Can’t wait to see it.
Already debunked it. Just gotta debunk it on my website.
Another article to debunk!
And another.
Really, now? If you had actually supplied proof for any of your other claims, I would have looked at them.
But you haven’t.
Alright, I will. I’ll put it in my “List” comment, so that way I also have time to give a good, detailed research.
Then why not give me a link to the tag?
Only ABUSIVE women.
If you honestly think abusive women = all women, then you seriously need to rethink yourself.
Wow, you admit something for once!
Take a good look around, and tell me that again.
Stop demeaning me, and I won’t be ridiculous back.
Y’all were mad that I was making too long of comment, so I fixed that.
But now you don’t like it?
Make up your mind.
@Lainy
If you are actually getting mad at an elementary school insult, that’s pretty sad.
No.
I’m borderline autistic, across the whole spectrum. 50 to 60% for each part.
My sister has ADHD so bad that she actually ends up having basically seizures sometimes.
You’re not the only one out there.
And, guess what?
Plenty of MRAs are autistic.
You’re not the only one with autism or the only one on the autism scale.
Oh, you’re done?
Done being a bully and demeaning me and everyone else you don’t like?
“Kids”? There’s only one guy there. And guess what? He didn’t mock you for being raped. He doesn’t believe you, but he didn’t mock you. Big difference.
Wow, the first nice thing you’ve said!
“Survivors”? What about when I’ve been mocked, hated on, not believed, etc. by feminists?
You’re right, it’s better for everyone for me not to be a feminist.
I wouldn’t want to be cruel like you.
@Lainy
Wow, sounds like someone who got tired of never providing proof or evidence for their claims, especially of their claims of women having it worse.
And…?
It’s hard to take you seriously when you say this.
Why would I want that?
I’m a teenager. Not interested in getting pregnant on accident or anything.
Go ahead, take a look at my analysis of you above.
Already have had a couple boyfriends. One was black, the other white, I believe.
Hey, it worked this time!
@Acid Kritana
I don’t know why you keep thinking this is an excuse, it’s just more evidence he’s a transphobe. Again, not helping your case.
Sure you would have, then you’d say you debunked it and move on.
There’s a search bar at the top, use it.
Re: Paul Elam
Can you link me to where jezebel said anything comparable? And your justification still doesn’t work.
All of group x has not hurt Acid, yet acid attacks all of group x. It’s pretty revolting the clearer it gets to see but it’s supposed to feel that way.
@Lainy
Ok…?
You grew up with a father!
See, you’re already luckier than me.
Actually, it does affect you, but please continue.
I suppose that I may be off with the specific date. Since y’all were assuming that I hit puberty when I started my transition, and I had stated that I started my transition when I was 14, so I assumed the average date was 14.
It could be earlier, I don’t know.
And the reason why single mothers are to blame for an earlier puberty is due to the fact that, if the biological father isn’t there, other male pheromones come along, speeding the puberty to an early start. It causes a host of effects, one of which is an earlier death.
See? It’s that simple.
Good to know. Maybe I started around 9 to 10 years. Maybe 11 to 12. Who knows? I’ve never kept track of my periods, though I probably should have. Would have been a good reference, I suppose.
Like I’ve said, I’m probably off. It was a guestimation based off of how y’all reacted to me.
@Naglfar
I would like to know exactly what I’m doing. If you are correct, I will fully accept it.
@Lainy
And this is the beginning of a rant. Let’s see what kind of rant this is, shall we?
The only “nice” thing you’ve said to me so far is, “Good luck with your book.”
What advice? I doubt calling me a “dick” is “advice.”
Bruh.
I have a feeling that I know what kind of a “rant” this is.
Hasn’t stopped you yet.
What have I done besides ask for proof of mass harassment of women?
Seriously, prove it to me, and I’ll believe you.
I never said that I don’t believe that you haven’t been raped. In fact, I do believe you.
But you doubted me when I said I was sexually assaulted.
Is asking for proof of “female harassment” too much? Really?
Meanwhile, I’ve just been supplying proof for my claims, and some of you have been a bit willfully ignorant.
Wow, yet another generalization.
Keep up the good work, proving how “wonderful” feminism is! /s
What are you talking about?
When have I said that?
I would never do that.
People don’t ever deserve to be raped.
So why are you being so dramatic about me, then?
Bruh
Why are you making me want to bang my head into a wall?
Repeatedly?
Seriously, I believe you’ve been raped!
I don’t recall living in Ancient Rome.
I’m not stopping you from having kids.
Nobody took the rapist’s side today.
And we don’t live in Ancient Rome.
We don’t live in a Muslim-dominated country that literally stones women for being raped.
Since when?
If a woman can provide proof that the man did something bad to her, I will fully take her side.
But a few words is not “proof.”
Even a claim made by the man who is suspected might be false, because, “If you plead guilty, we’ll give you a lesser sentence.”
The world I live in is one where I literally get told I’m a rapist for saying I’ve been sexually assaulted.
Bruh
Why do you want people to pity you so bad?
Seriously, if all you said was, “I’ve been raped, and life is pretty bad for me because of that,” then that would be good!
But, instead, you literally claim that I’m saying that you didn’t get raped (even though I believe you), that I apparently want online evidence of your rape (when all I asked for was evidence of MASS HARASSMENT OF WOMEN), and more.
Dude, I believe that you were raped. And if you said that it has made life harder, I would absolutely believe you, because I understand that it does destroy people to be raped.
But please don’t spread lies about me.
@Ohlmann
Sorry to disappoint you, but I’m still alive.
@Naglfar
Nope.
Disappointed that I haven’t died?
@Brony, Social Justice Cenobite
It’s not my fault that you think everything is men’s fault.
First off, if you want to be nonbinary or “gender null” or something, I don’t care. Go ahead!
But there is no such thing as “male privilege.”
Just a warning.
Acid doesn’t get it. I don’t feel anything. They want me to care but they only know how to attack me. And the word man doesn’t work so…
@acid
I told you I was done so stop replying to me. I gave you a pretty clear no now. Wank on someone else.
And male doesn’t work either. It’s always been more “technical”, but I’ve read far too much. You can replace it with all of it’s sub-parts for all I care. That has far more meaning to me now but I had to do work for that. Society sucks at that.
Wow, my original comment finally got let up.
Whatever.
Now, I would like to say something.
I am tired of arguing with you all over this, so this is what I’m going to do.
I’m just going to stop this hear.
If you want to debate me, you can do it on my site. I don’t censor or anything, not even rude comments, so anything you say will be allowed.
But if you’re immensely rude, I will put a warning at the beginning of your comment.
Now, I am only going to respond to this site when I have something I want to say or if I just want to let you know of a new article that criticizes this site.
Good day.
When you’re definitely pro-woman
@Acid Kritana
Bye, don’t let the door hit you on the way out!
Oh, and don’t expect us on your blog. Unlike you, we don’t go troll the comments of blogs we don’t like.
He must think my rapists is in jail since i reported him. I find acid spew almost ironic how he ket saying he belieives me but also said they don’t beleive that no one believed me or told me it was my fault. Here the thing
He’s not in jail because the police, mh teachers and the othet students took his side. That’s not an ancient Rome thing. That was a very much 2015 thing and is still the thing and it’s why I don’t know if i have the right to have children. Fucking trolls.
And thinking again it’s revolting to me. I misstyped.
How long do we think Mr. Kritana keeps the flounce?
Aaaand here comes the flounce! But can he stick it?
@naglfar
It’s Thursday so until he gets his homework done
It’s kind of crazy to think about how my rapist is one of these mra types now. That this kid could be getting a lot the crap form someone like him and would defend him to the end.
First, a little something to put everyone upset by the troll in a better headspace:
Second, this video Kid MRA was talking about:
Wasn’t that more or less debunked as at best misleading? Due to the evidence that the filmmakers took multiple takes of those two scenarios and spliced together the reactions they wanted to make viewers think it really was all done in one take. And that the filmmakers didn’t disclose that fact until critics confronted them over it?
Or am I misremembering things again?
@Redsilkphoenix
It was debunked years ago. Somewhere on this blog there’s a post about it, but I can’t find it right now.
So I came back, just to look, and y’all are talking about my “flounce.” I don’t even know what “flounce” is.
And Brony’s just rambling on about who knows what.
Hey, @Naglfar, just look up, “Have You Ever Beat Up a Boyfriend? Because, Uh, We Have” and that sort of title will be a Jezebel article. They literally happily proclaim beating up their boyfriends.
Hey, too-long-of-a-name, y’all actually made me think about whether I am MGTOW or not. And while I’m still thinking about it, I realized that MGTOW is not misogynistic. They just want to live their own lives, for themselves. Not for anyone else.
@Naglfar
Who said I was leaving? Just was trying to end an argument.
And @Lainy apparently thinks we live in Ancient Rome.
Hell, if you even went back to the time period in To Kill a Mockingbird, you would have been believed. #BelieveAllWomen existed back then, and it caused COUNTLESS black men to be lynched.
@Lainy
Don’t you dare lie and say that your rapist is an “MRA type.” We would never accept a person like that. Why do you think Roy Den Hollander was kicked out? And just for being a crazy misogynist.
And Longest-name-yet, there have been so many videos on that, and I mean all of them being social experiements, that you would have to pull up PLENTY of evidence.
If you can pull up a specific video, I’ll tell you if it was that one that I had watched when I was a little kid.
Well, I’m off to listen to metal
Oh, and by the way, in case you were wondering why I was trying to stop my arguing with you, I got tired of arguing with children.
Good day.