WTF is a MGTOW? A Glossary

On this blog, MRA does not mean Magnetic Resonance Angiography

For newcomers to this blog, here’s a handy guide to some of the strange acronyms and lingo you’ll encounter here and in the “manosphere” in general. (For a definition of that term, see below.) I will update this entry periodically as needed.

First, the acronyms you’ll see most often here:

MRA: Men’s Rights Activist
MRM: Men’s Rights Movement

MGTOW: Men Going Their Own Way MGHOW: Man Going His Own Way.

Ok, so what do those terms mean?

MRM: The Men’s Rights Movement: A loosely defined, but largely retrograde, collection of activists and internet talkers who fight for what they see as “men’s rights.” Unlike the original Men’s Movement, which was inspired by and heavily influenced by feminism, the self-described Men’s Rights Movement is largely a reactionary movement; with few exceptions, Men’s Rights Activists (or MRAs) are pretty rabidly antifeminist, and many are frankly and sometimes proudly misogynistic. Those who oppose the MRM are generally not against men’s rights per se; they are opposed to those who’ve turned those two words into a synonym for some pretty backwards notions.

MGTOW: Men Going Their Own Way: As the name suggests, MGTOW is a lot like lesbian separatism, but for straight dudes. MGTOW often talk vaguely about seeking “independence” from western and/or consumer culture, and a few MGTOW try to live that sort of zen existence. But most of those who embrace the term have a deep hostility towards and/or profound distrust of feminists and women in general. Many MGTOW refuse to date “western women” and some try to avoid women altogether.  I think the Man Going His Own Way acronym MGHOW adds another layer of confusion to an already awkward acronym, so I use MGTOWer instead.

Some other terms and acronyms you’ll run across here:

Anglosphere: Countries in which English is the primary language, or, more narrowly, those countries that used to be British colonies. They are full of evil Western Women (see below).

Incel: Involuntarily Celibate. A term, and identity, adopted by some dateless guys (as well as some women, but it’s the men we’ll focus on here). While there is nothing shameful about being dateless, or a virgin, or having a really long dry spell sexually — most of us have been there at some point — the term “involuntarily celibate” seems to suggest that the world owes incels sex, and that women who turn down incel men for dates or sex are somehow oppressing them. For those (male, straight) incels who are genuinely socially awkward or phobic, this can be a self-defeating stance that can lead to bitterness towards women. And often does.

Mangina: Derogatory term used by MRAs, MGTOW, etc. to describe guys who disagree with them — e.g., me. You can figure out the various connotations of this term yourself.

The Manosphere: The loose collection of blogs, message boards, and other sites run by and/or read by MRAs, MGTOW, and assorted friendly Pick-up Artists. The primary source of material for this blog.

NAWALT: Not All Women Are Like That. Dudes in the manosphere make so many ridiculous and untrue generalizations about women that they’ve come up with their own little acronym to describe the most common reaction to their nonsense: “not all women are like that.” Remarkably, many seem to think that making a reference to NAWALT is actually some sort of clever rebuttal of their critics.

PUA: Pick-up Artist. PUAs are obsessed with mastering what they see as the ultimate set of techniques and attitudes — known as “Game” — that will enable them to quickly seduce almost any woman they want. There is a vast literature on “game” online, though PUA (insofar as it is not complete bullshit) is at its essence simply a male version of the age-old ploy of “playing hard to get.”

Western Women: Also known as WW. Evil harpies, at least according to many in the manosphere. Contrasted with “foreign women,” a term that (in the manosphere, at least) sometimes refers to all women outside the Anglosphere, but often refers to a subset of these women from poor and/or Eastern countries, mostly Asian, who are regarded as more pliable and thus more desirable to haters of “Ameriskanks” and other WW.

  1. LOL! I hope my tickets arrive soon. Feminist high counsel would have words with me if I’m late.

  2. I’m looking forward to the radical separatist events at this year’s Gender Olympics: Vagina Vault and Robertasled.

    As usual, MRAs are expected fo be competitive at douchecanoeing.

  3. Buttercup Q. Skullpants

    *to, not fo. That fentence lookf like a fixfteenth fentury manufcript.

  4. Michael from Australia

    As men drop out & go their own way you’ll see society getting worse. Predator states that have strong families & hegemony will, no doubt look at weak nations. You’ll get invaded, and voila!!
    Don’t pretend not to care, you WILL suffer in the future

  5. Sure, men will totally all go their own way, the world will end and the sky will fall on us. /s

  6. Buttercup Q. Skullpants

    Uh, Michael, Australia is a Defcock 2 nation. They’re going to be invading you. Don’t kid yourself that the conquerors are going to issue you your own concubine. More likely, you’ll end up in an Objectivist casserole.

    This is just a thinly veiled variation on the old “nice gender you’ve got there” protection racket. Ladies, you’re going to need a man! To save you from men!

    Your sales pitch needs a little work.

  7. Have you considered that even if every thing you say is true Michael from Australia that some of us would rather be dead than in that life ? I mean, living like that is not really an incentive, is it ?

  8. Wow, possible misery and servitude in the future versus certain misery and servitude now. What a choice!

  9. @Michael
    See, I’m having trouble believing you when you suggest that the silly feminist countries will be invaded by the manly-man family-focused countries, as I’m pretty sure that what you mean by “strong families” is “traditional patriarchal family structure.” Because that’s what MGTOWs have whined for since the start. Here’s one thing: you MGTOWs are not as strong in number as you wish to believe, and the majority of men out there are in agreement with the idea that women are also people and should receive equal treatment. So there really won’t be much of a dent in society if and when (emphasise on if) you lot actually fucking finally DO go your own way (could you just hurry up with that already??).

    Here’s the biggest flaw in your prediction – the countries that have strong laws in gender equality and a flexible family structure are doing pretty well for themselves economically and could hold their own in a battle. Examples: USA, UK, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Norway, Denmark, Sweden, France, Germany, etc. Countries that are very patriarchal in their ways…well…they’re not doing so good and never really have done. Burundi, Somalia, Syria, UAE, Iran, Columbia, Peru, Bangladesh, Haiti etc.

    Sorry Michael, but it looks like the strongest countries are the pro-feminism ones. And since MGTOWs are such a small group, very little will change if you guys do up and GYOW like you say you will.

    So yeah. Pop goes that theory.

  10. Birth rate in Japan is now 1.1 It is being called sexodus. Japanese males opting out are called Herbivore men. Population rates plummeting everywhere feminism has taken hold as these women exit the nuclear family. This is no joke. Big changes in society will continue and accelerate unabated looks like. MGTOW is no joke. Widespread misandry is forcing them to opt out.

  11. AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH

    Yeah, because SO many men are GTOW, that we all should worry! Because who will have babies if the men don’t cooperate?!

    Oh wait, we can get stuff similar to sperm cells from bone marrow. And men are still donating to sperm banks. And there’s still plenty of men who aren’t going their own way (to occasionally poke their head in and ask if they’ve been missed. No, you haven’t been missed. Leave).

  12. Paul, you misspelled a word. Your penultimate sentence should read, “MGTOW is a joke.”
    The idea that birth rates below replacement levels are a problem is puzzling. We are a long way from an underpopulated planet.

  13. I wasn’t aware that Japan had been taken over by feminists and that’s why the birth rate is low. You learn something new every day!

  14. But WWTH, how will they satisfy their creepy “submissive Asian women” fetish if at least the Japanese ones are feminists? WHAT ABOUT THE MENZ?

  15. Alan Robertshaw

    @ paradoxical intention

    Oh wait, we can get stuff similar to sperm cells from bone marrow.

    Really? The NHS will shortly be drilling me for some bone marrow so this is all kind of fascinating.

  16. If women are already gtow (“leaving the nuclear family”), then mgtow are the social equivalent of “you can’t fire me, I quit!”

  17. Policy of Madness

    MGTOW is no joke.

    If MGTOW were actually GTOW, they wouldn’t keep coming back to women with these YOU’LL BE SO SORRY WHEN WE’RE GONE screeds. It’s like a 9-year-old “running away from home” who keeps coming back into the living room to say, “I’m really doing it! I’m really leaving! You can’t stop me!” instead of just leaving.

    If you’re going your own way, fucking go already and stop coming back to whine about how the adults don’t care enough about your kiddie tantrum.

  18. I love how women are ‘leaving the nuclear family’ but men are ‘opting out’. Women’s default state is in the family, men’s is outside of the family, lol. Never mind that neither women or men start out ‘in the family’ and then leave, they just never have kids to begin with.

    Actually, both men and women are ‘opting out’ of having a family with children in Japan (and increasingly in the US, btw) and choosing to focus on having a good career and being able to support themselves because the two goals are mutually exclusive. The cost of living is such that providing a middle class lifestyle for a family of three or four on a single income is largely impossible. People need two incomes per family to survive, but work/life balance is non-existent and daycare costs are enormous. Neither parent can afford to take unpaid time to be with a new baby and most employers don’t offer paid time sufficient to meet the needs of a new baby (I think Google may be the exception in the US). Damned if you do, damned if you don’t. So more people are choosing to make the best of their own lives and careers, and in a society that highly values good work ethic over most anything else, who can blame them?

    My fiance and I have talked about this ourselves, and we’re in a similar bind. We’re in our 30’s, and want to have a kid someday, but neither one of us makes enough money alone to support a stay at home spouse and a child. And neither of us have paid time off other than our normal vacation time. FMLA is unpaid time, and insufficient in length anyway.

    Feminists have been fighting in many countries for mandatory paid parental leave (paternity and maternity) so that working people can also have a family. Who knows, maybe the decline in the birth rate in Japan will be the swift kick in the pants the corporations and government need to implement more family friendly policies?

  19. Feminists have been fighting in many countries for mandatory paid parental leave (paternity and maternity) so that working people can also have a family. 

    Exactly. Feminists aren’t anti-family, they’re anti-women-must-raise-children-and-do-it-without-help. Lord knows there are enough right wingers trying to force that sort of thing through the Senate, what with anti-abortion bills AND proposed cuts on welfare. Can’t have it both ways, sweethearts, or you wind up with many more families in poverty.

  20. These guys always talk about “plummeting population rates” and “the destruction of the nuclear family [always talking about some narrow and oppressive “Leave it to Beaver” fantasy, not how actual families ever were and are now]” like these were bad things.

  21. MGTOW is no joke.

    Oh, it is. It so is.

    Dudes who never seem to go anywhere despite their promises,

    I live smack on the shiny brass buckle of the Bible Belt. People have been trying to doom and gloom me into submission since I was a child. I’m not afraid of the sky falling if I have rights and make my own decisions. I never will. To me, you sound like a less charismatic fundamentalist preacher. I’ve got your number. You wish that fire would rain from the skies and the seas would turn to blood to punish women, LGBTQ people and our allies for failing to comply with demands you have no right to make. Your mouth is writing a check you’re ass can’t cash. If all the bigots go away, the world will be just peachy. White, straight, cis, well off, male bigots are not the most brilliant, special people on the planet. They do not possess special skills or attributes. We do not need them. They need us. The privileged are not the inventors of or stewards of civilization. They thrive on unpaid and inadequately compensated labor. So, go away and take the screaming street preachers with you. We’ll be fine.

  22. Oh, and dudes? White guys telling women to be nice to them lest the icky brown men get us is just racist as fuck.

  23. Alan Robertshaw | April 27, 2015 at 6:27 am
    Really? The NHS will shortly be drilling me for some bone marrow so this is all kind of fascinating.

    Last I heard it was true, though I haven’t heard much about it lately.

  24. Alan Robertshaw

    @ paradoxical intention

    Well, waddayanknow, here’s an article:

    http://www.nature.com/news/rudimentary-egg-and-sperm-cells-made-from-stem-cells-1.16636

    I love this sort of thing.

  25. @Paul

    Birth rate in Japan is now 1.1 It is being called sexodus.

    By MRAS. The people who live in reality see it slightly differently

    Why aren’t they getting married?

    There are both cultural and economic barriers. In Japanese tradition, marriage was more about duty than romantic love. Arranged marriages were the norm well into the 1970s, and even into the 1990s most marriages were facilitated by “go-betweens,” often the grooms’ bosses. Left to their own devices, Japanese men aren’t sure how to find wives — and many are shying away from the hunt, because they simply can’t afford it. Wages have stagnated since the 1990s, while housing prices have shot up. A young Japanese man has good reason to believe that his standard of living would drop immensely if he had to house and support a wife and children — especially considering that his wife likely wouldn’t be working.

    Why make that assumption?

    In Japan, marriage usually ends a woman’s working career, even though most women are well educated. Once they have a child, women face strong social pressure to quit their jobs and assume very traditional roles, serving both the husband and the child. Mothers who want to keep working are stigmatized and usually find that employers won’t hire them. Child care is scarce and expensive, while Japan’s brutal work culture often demands that employees work more than 50 hours a week. Japanese husbands aren’t much help either — they spend an average of one hour a day helping with the children and household chores, compared with three hours for husbands in the U.S. and Western Europe. “You end up being a housewife with no independent income,” bank worker Eri Tomita told The Observer. “It’s not an option for women like me.”

    The prime minister of Japan now believes that creating a culture where mothers can hold jobs is one of the most important changes Japan needs to make. They need to stop the patriarchal “man brings home the money, woman works at home” and replace it with something more equitable. Dare I say, more feminist.

    As for the men “opting out” and “going their own way” by becoming shut-ins, that’s more a result of social shame in a culture where “one’s status and reputation are paramount and hard to change.” They are not the majority by a long-shot.

    Meanwhile, while the US birth rate is technically declining at the moment (due to the recent recession, mostly), it appears to have been quite stable for a few decades.

    I’d guess that the rise of contraceptive use is the biggest factor in the huge drop starting in the 1960s, but like other people have said; the US is nowhere near having any population issues. In fact, it appears to have made the birth rate much more stable through recessions or economic booms.

    Population rates plummeting everywhere feminism has taken hold as these women exit the nuclear family.

    Heh, no. Feminism is not the cause for Japan’s issues. In fact it appears to be the solution.

  26. The idea that Japan is now a feminist stronghold is HILARIOUS to me. Guys, no. No. Just because shounen-ai exists does NOT make it a feminist stronghold, sorry.

  27. Mr David, you are an omega male! http://www.mgtow.com/glossary/ but women are well aware of your existence! :)

  28. I thought Chuck Heston was the Omega Man.

  29. I don’t know if all women everywhere are aware of the existence of David Futrelle. Certainly some are, which can be confirmed by the fact that I am a woman, and I know David exists. But there must be some women who haven’t heard of him, yes? Or is he just that unbelievably famous?

  30. @Viscaria
    Well, those cats in the ferret suits in the David suit are masters of disguise. Maybe every woman does know David, she just doesn’t know she knows him.

  31. Buttercup Q. Skullpants

    Does anyone else find it hilarious that the MGTOW logo is a dead-end road forking angrily off the main road?

    They should change their logo to a rotary.

  32. I got recognized on the street once. They yelled out “hey there’s the guy that stole my wallet!”

    (Not actually true.)

  33. @Buttercup Q. Skullpants:

    Nah, I find it hilarious that it’s an erect penis.

  34. This list is good but needs SJW added.

  35. SJW: A fictional creature similar to a faerie or a zombie.

  36. Honestly, while I do think that more feminism is always better, regarding the shitfit that people are throwing about declining birth rates, I really think we need to move towards an economic system that ISN’T based around having an ever-larger base of younger generations to prop up the system like some kind of sick pyramid scheme. Because the human population physically cannot just keep growing into infinity. We have a limited amount of space and resources. So throwing around better support structures for mothers (while I agree that a better safety net and minimum guaranteed standard of living are important) and creating more incentives for people to breed is at best a band-aid solution on a much, much bigger problem, and at worst accelerating our downfall into complete resource and environmental collapse.

  37. I mean, the reactionaries aren’t wrong about one thing: the liberation of women is partly responsible for declining birth rates. It turns out that when we have access to birth control and education/the work force – in short, when motherhood is simply one choice among many rather than “what women are for” – we tend to have fewer children and do so later in life (if at all).

    Where the reactionaries go wrong is in acting like this is a bad thing. We cannot keep cramming people onto this planet. We juSt can’t.

  38. Yeah, sure, everything’s women’s fault. Just tell yourself that when you’re force thawing your chicken dinner for 1 in the sink.
    Bye-bye.

  39. And then eating your rape Jello while you turn your bland chicken into bland charcoal in the oven.

  40. Women are more likely than men to end up in poverty after divorce. Articles discussing studies:

    Here

    Here

    And an op-ed discussing the issue

  41. Yep. All divorced men immediately waste away as soon as the paperwork is complete. It’s just tragic.

    Oh wait, no. My parents divorced finalized in 2002 and somehow my dad lives!

  42. @Truthandlight, I hope things continue this way too! Things are getting more and more awesome for everyone, including you misogynist snotturds! Someday, you won’t be so bitter and angry. I promise. ^_^

  43. “Someday, you won’t be so bitter and angry. I promise. ^_^”

    Yep, nobody lives forever.

  44. marinerachel

    My dad’s a healthy, filthy rich bachelor who couldn’t be less interested another serious relationship since he and my mom split fifteen-ish years ago.

    Some people do just great on their own including men following divorces.

  45. emilygoddess

    I can’t access mod functions on mobile, but I will delete TruthAndLight’s comment when I get home. I will also be suggesting a mod challenge: I’m thinking a 1000 word essay on why divorce is absolutely nothing like rape and people who make that comparison should feel bad.

  46. Banana Jackie Cake, the Best Jackie and Cake! Yum! (^v^)

    @emilygoddess

    ONLY a 1000 words? Isn’t that just a page or two?

  47. In growing numbers men are walking away from women.

    Laugh for now all you want.

  48. marinerachel

    I’m so glad miserable fucks like that guy are walking away from women (though they don’t seem to be following through with the “threat”….)

  49. marinerachel

    And yes.

  50. @:)

    Please do walk away at any time now.

  51. Some days lots of adults are unmarried because men are going their own way. Some days it’s because women are evil whores who are riding the a.c.c. until they hit the wall.

    Which is it fellas? Because it can’t be both!

  52. When I heard the about Men going their own way (MGTOW), spurning women, I was thrilled. I thought, yeah! All the misogynists are going off into some compound or into the wilderness or some island somewhere, so women will not have to deal with them anymore. Peace has come upon the land! (Ur, except for all the other world conflicts). But they are still here, damn it! They are not going their own way, they are getting in OUR way.

  53. I find it hilarious that men who can’t get women to date, marry or bang them due to their shitty attitudes think that they’re the ones who are walking away. They’re not going their own way, they’re admitting that nobody wants them and giving up.

  54. As far as I see, the reactionarism and misogyny are seen as solutions by the typical MGTOW, it is an easy conclusion. (Feminism/Today = Bad ) = (Patriarchy/Back Then = Good )
    In reality, far from being a solution, these are downright harmful to, decredibilise the stated MGTOW and MRA objectives.
    This is ignored because most MGTOWs and MRAs, they ignore their stated cause because they are so caught up in reactionary emotion-ladden propaganda.

    Also, the whole “man brings home the money, woman works at home” pisses me off on a personal level, I say good riddance to that! Work 60 hours a week? No thanks, please go f**** yourselves!
    Funny (dark humour) how Japan have an even lower birthrate than most western countries because of that retarded meme.

    That´s my idea of the red pill, men should follow the lead (lol), reject with disguste the “traditional gender roles” just as women have.
    Hovewer, this rejection should not be out of some sort of victimhood mentality were men are somewhat oppressed by women not wearing make-up, having tattoos, not being submissive and other ridiculous garbage.
    That is being just as dumb as those individuals ranting about microaggression, triggering and the word bossy.
    I mean, if you think the SJWs and their oppression olympics is bad, why join them in it?

  55. @Quartzok-43 “Funny (dark humour) how Japan have an even lower birthrate than most western countries because of that retarded meme.”

    Care to rephrase that without the ableism?

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