WTF is a MGTOW? A Glossary

On this blog, MRA does not mean Magnetic Resonance Angiography

For newcomers to this blog, here’s a handy guide to some of the strange acronyms and lingo you’ll encounter here and in the “manosphere” in general. (For a definition of that term, see below.) I will update this entry periodically as needed.

First, the acronyms you’ll see most often here:

MRA: Men’s Rights Activist
MRM: Men’s Rights Movement

MGTOW: Men Going Their Own Way MGHOW: Man Going His Own Way.

Ok, so what do those terms mean?

MRM: The Men’s Rights Movement: A loosely defined, but largely retrograde, collection of activists and internet talkers who fight for what they see as “men’s rights.” Unlike the original Men’s Movement, which was inspired by and heavily influenced by feminism, the self-described Men’s Rights Movement is largely a reactionary movement; with few exceptions, Men’s Rights Activists (or MRAs) are pretty rabidly antifeminist, and many are frankly and sometimes proudly misogynistic. Those who oppose the MRM are generally not against men’s rights per se; they are opposed to those who’ve turned those two words into a synonym for some pretty backwards notions.

MGTOW: Men Going Their Own Way: As the name suggests, MGTOW is a lot like lesbian separatism, but for straight dudes. MGTOW often talk vaguely about seeking “independence” from western and/or consumer culture, and a few MGTOW try to live that sort of zen existence. But most of those who embrace the term have a deep hostility towards and/or profound distrust of feminists and women in general. Many MGTOW refuse to date “western women” and some try to avoid women altogether.  I think the Man Going His Own Way acronym MGHOW adds another layer of confusion to an already awkward acronym, so I use MGTOWer instead.

Some other terms and acronyms you’ll run across here:

Anglosphere: Countries in which English is the primary language, or, more narrowly, those countries that used to be British colonies. They are full of evil Western Women (see below).

Incel: Involuntarily Celibate. A term, and identity, adopted by some dateless guys (as well as some women, but it’s the men we’ll focus on here). While there is nothing shameful about being dateless, or a virgin, or having a really long dry spell sexually — most of us have been there at some point — the term “involuntarily celibate” seems to suggest that the world owes incels sex, and that women who turn down incel men for dates or sex are somehow oppressing them. For those (male, straight) incels who are genuinely socially awkward or phobic, this can be a self-defeating stance that can lead to bitterness towards women. And often does.

Mangina: Derogatory term used by MRAs, MGTOW, etc. to describe guys who disagree with them — e.g., me. You can figure out the various connotations of this term yourself.

The Manosphere: The loose collection of blogs, message boards, and other sites run by and/or read by MRAs, MGTOW, and assorted friendly Pick-up Artists. The primary source of material for this blog.

NAWALT: Not All Women Are Like That. Dudes in the manosphere make so many ridiculous and untrue generalizations about women that they’ve come up with their own little acronym to describe the most common reaction to their nonsense: “not all women are like that.” Remarkably, many seem to think that making a reference to NAWALT is actually some sort of clever rebuttal of their critics.

PUA: Pick-up Artist. PUAs are obsessed with mastering what they see as the ultimate set of techniques and attitudes — known as “Game” — that will enable them to quickly seduce almost any woman they want. There is a vast literature on “game” online, though PUA (insofar as it is not complete bullshit) is at its essence simply a male version of the age-old ploy of “playing hard to get.”

Western Women: Also known as WW. Evil harpies, at least according to many in the manosphere. Contrasted with “foreign women,” a term that (in the manosphere, at least) sometimes refers to all women outside the Anglosphere, but often refers to a subset of these women from poor and/or Eastern countries, mostly Asian, who are regarded as more pliable and thus more desirable to haters of “Ameriskanks” and other WW.

  1. “Capiche”? Does this guy think he’s some kind of threatening mobster from a pulp detective novel?

    Breeze off, Daisy, the dames ain’t buyin’ it. *crosses gams and lights noir cigarette*

  2. Buttercup Q. Skullpants

    Fake cigarette, obviously. Kids, don’t try this at home.

  3. He’d better watch out for…femme fatales.

  4. ROFL oh gods I love Hark, A Vagrant.

  5. Buttercup Q. Skullpants

    That doctor one…Can’t.Stop.Laughing!

  6. That was my favourite too.

    Imagine the MGTOW catching Legs That Won’t Quit!

  7. M. the Social Justice Ranger

    That brick joke with the bear hat sent coffee out my nose. Love it!

  8. I lost it at the Dentist’s office one.

    “You are NOT getting a sticker.”

  9. Imagine the MGTOW catching Legs That Won’t Quit!

    That would be fitting, considering the rest of them won’t quit.

  10. I’m starting to think we should provide MGTOW with free compasses and gift certificates for orienteering courses, just so they’ll actually go somewhere.

  11. Or we could give them a one-way ticket to the trash island in the Pacific.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Pacific_garbage_patch

  12. That’s my ideal location for them and the whole scrotosphere, too.

  13. They’d look great there.

  14. Maybe we could make them clean it up?

  15. Hey everyone,
    This is the first time Im hearing of MIGTOW. It was brought to my attention by an old professor (female not that that should matter) of mine, as she was inviting me to attend an event on the topic. Now just for some background, I don’t have a strong opinion on the topic either way, and am currently in a long term relationship (with a wonderful woman). I have had my mixed bag of relationships just like many others who put themselves out there in the dating/ socialite setting.
    Without commenting on the validity of this movement or of any third wave feminist ideals, i would like to point out that even if you don’t agree with the message of a movement (especially if you do not agree with the message of the movement), the best way to undermine your credibility and bolster the credibility of the movement you seek to oppose is to respond to the movement in a way that is public (internet) and in a manner which is consistent with the point of views that the movement is attempting to promulgate.

    e.g. MGTOW would likely be more successful in affecting social and political change if they did not take the hard-line, black and white approach that they claim to oppose in the third wave feminist movement. There may be a trend towards one pole of female behavior or the other (which I have not noticed and even if I had, a sample size of 1 is not very effective for drawing conclusions from) but the idea that “eastern women” are bad is simply too broad of a statement to be ever taken seriously. The same applies to the third wave feminist movement.

    This being said, critics of the MGTOW movement only enforce the movements message in responding in a way that mirrors the movements complaints about women. Granted there is some sarcasm in the above posts. Even so, such sarcasm takes a toll on the credibility of the critics. To the serious responses, use your heads and respond in a manner that proves that you are indeed not jealous, immature, and vindictive as the movement seems to think you are. Just something to think about as this movement that I never in a million years though would get traction is being discussed very seriously on one of the top law campuses in the U.S., likely due to increased support due to predictable opposition.

    TL;DR- Do not act like a five-year-old, and you opposition or promotion of a cause will be much more efficient.

  16. Hmmmm, let’s see:
    “My best friend professor is a woman…”
    “I’m not a MGTOW (I’m in a relationship!) but…”
    “Let me mansplain that for you!”
    “Why can’t you be nicer to misogynists?!”
    “Yes. I failed to comprehend what this site is about.”
    Conclusion: Unoriginal. Boring troll is boring.

  17. Ugh… I borked the html. :/

  18. M. the Social Justice Ranger

    Did he literally try “Some of my best friends are women”?

    He literally tried “Some of my best friends are women.”

    Everybody, take a drink!

  19. emilygoddess - MOD

    NYUA, thank you so much for mansplaining this to us!

  20. How is it SO. MANY. trolls lack such basic reading comprehension? It’s literally the first thing you see on this blog, NYUidiot. I’ll say it small words. This site is where bad people who hate women get made fun of! That is the purpose of the site! Do you get it now? I’m not sure how to say it more clearly.

  21. If we just stopped talking about misogyny, it would go away. Why.. why….it’s so simple! Why didn’t anyone think of that before! ?

    And yes, I screwed up the ellipses on purpose.

  22. NYUA – “tone it down, ladies” isn’t helpful when there are men out there willing to hurt and kill us for not showing sufficient deference. That isn’t hyperbole, by the way.

    Responding seriously to MGTOWs is a complete waste of time. Right off the bat, they automatically dismiss anything a woman says. Sarcasm is a much better weapon for exposing the ridiculousness of their position.

    We aren’t bullies picking on victims for laughs. MGTOWs aren’t simply men who’ve been hurt by women. They’re a special class of angry, self-absorbed, entitled abusers who’ve been rejected by women (for very good reasons) and are out for revenge and won’t rest until the entire world agrees that women are nothing but evil, repellant, inferior sex-dispensers. They’re dangerous. Look at their rhetoric. Look at the way they talk about women, the slurs they use, the threats, the graphic descriptions of what they’d like to do, the eliminationist language. Now imagine they’re saying those things about your mother, your sister, your daughter, your girlfriend. Do you still think “sweet ‘n’ submissive” is a proper response to someone who thinks all the women in your life are “wh*res” and “cum dumpsters”? Or that MGTOWs would engage in any level of reasoned, measured debate?

    They’re a lost cause. They’re trying so hard to convince themselves of the rightness of their beliefs that they won’t listen to anyone else. They’ve got their fingers permanently stuck in their ears and their eyes permanently shut to the world.

    At least we’re reality-based. And fun.

  23. This being said, critics of the MGTOW movement only enforce the movements message

    Don’t care. Fuck ‘em. I hope they go far far away on their own. I hear Antarctica is nice this time of year and there are hardly any women. Go south young man!

    PS. Saying mocking sexism promotes sexism is like saying mocking the Phelps cult promotes homophobia, you stupid PO sexist S.

    in responding in a way that mirrors the movements complaints about women.

    You are saying their complaint with women is that they make fun of sexism? You are either ignorant or dishonest.

  24. “I don’t intend to marry a women, for they are harpies what sap the vitalities of man that flows like the ichor of gods through their testes”

    “Oh, okay”

    “YOU HARPY, YOU MISANDROUS rapscallion, you scurrilous wrench, you pox-marked blathering half-human uteri!”

    Law class must be really boring if the debates about “the movement” of “MGTOW” is being “discussed seriously”.

    What’s there to discuss, exactly? “These people don’t intend to get married because they feel that their lives are valuable without women” is not exactly a transgressive statement of import. It’s just a social idea. I guess somewhat technically like lesbian seperatism, by theme if not content.

    Anyone viewing this would literally just think “oh, okay”. The more terrible connotations are always only there because people stubbornly don’t, and treat this earth-shattering idea of some men not wanting to get married as the BACHELORACLYPSE. It’s funny exactly because the people who go their own way very, very pointedly never go their own way. This isn’t some massive social movement against some sort of conspiracy, it’s just some people deciding not to get married or seek permanent relationships, which is honestly fine. There’s been a tradition of people doing that for almost all of human fucking history, right from monks to nuns to ascetics to sceptics to hermits to pillarists. It’s not that big a deal. There’s no movement to discuss.

    What is worth discussing is the jump from “I don’t want to be in an intimate relationship because I value my own indepedence” to “because any relationship with a devil-succubus would have her sucking my precious freedom from the marrow of my bones, as all women are part devil and practice the Blackest Arts of the Half-Moon Children underneath the swirling kaleidoscope of foreign stars, and their baleful predations on the energies of Man is ever a threat valiant, heroic figures must struggle against to break and bar the tidings of the Uteri-Bearers”.

    Sorry, I slipped into some sword and sorcery scenario there for a minute.

    Do you also spend time discussing hermits, the pillar sitters of old Byzanthium, ascetics, monks, hedonists and libertines who foreswear monogamous relationships? Probably not, because few of those allow you to randomly get upset with women.

  25. PS. The female prof story and the feigned apathy smacks of bullshit. Pull the other one whiny mansplainer.

  26. in responding in a way that mirrors the movements complaints about women.

    In other words, “Tone it down, ladies, otherwise you’ll confirm the movement’s portrayal of you as vicious harpies!”

    1. Who cares?
    2. Misogynists think we’re terrible no matter what we do.
    3. We might as well have some fun with it.

    I hardly think the MGTOW movement is gaining traction because we’re being mean to it. The larger public really doesn’t care. They’ve never heard of MGTOW. If they do, they’re likely to back slowly away from the toxic stew of rancid beliefs and think to themselves “wow, that’s really sad and messed up”. MGTOW isn’t a private live-and-let-live lifestyle choice. It’s another in a long series of attempts to loudly, publicly punish women for existing and having mating preferences and stating their opinions.

    Which is pretty much what you’re doing, NYU, when you lecture us on optics and tell us to sit down and behave, like we’re wayward children.

  27. Somewhat related. One time a troll told me that racism is my fault because I object to racist jokes and that his WOC wife totally agrees with him.

  28. What is it about this thread? Why does it keep getting trolls? Is it the header link? Because it says “MGTOW” in the title?

    Also, I’mma put the bear hat on my icon.

  29. A lot of the people posting don’t seem aware that it’s a glossary and not a post specifically about MGTOWs.

  30. Just found your site! Excellent!!

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