Mammoth FAQ

A mammoth, hunted. By leocigale

A mammoth, hunted. By leocigale

We Hunted the Mammoth: The FAQ-ening

Q) A mammoth, huh? What’s this blog about?

A) Misogyny, not mammoths.

Specifically, this blog focuses on what I call the “New Misogyny,” an angry antifeminist backlash that has emerged like a boil on the ass of the internet over the last decade or so. These aren’t your traditional misogynists – the social conservatives and religious fundamentalists who make up much of the far right.

These are guys, mostly, who range in age from their teens to their fifties, who have embraced misogyny as an ideology, as a sort of symbolic solution to the frustrations in their lives – whether financial, social, or sexual.

Some of them identify as Men’s Rights Activists, trying to cast their peculiar struggle against what they see as the excess of feminism and the advantages of women as a civil rights issue of sorts. Alongside those who explicitly label themselves MRAs we find a great number of antifeminist and antiwomen activists we might call Men’s Rights-adjacent – like those in the Skeptic and Atheist subcultures who still haven’t gotten over an offhand remark Skepchick founder Rebecca Watson made about a dude in an elevator a couple of years ago.

Others proclaim themselves Men Going Their Own Way (MGTOW), declaring a sort of independence from women – while spending much of their time on message boards talking endlessly about them.

Still others see themselves as Pickup Artists (PUA), or masters of “Game,” espousing elaborate “scientific” theories of male superiority while trading tips on how best to pressure or manipulate drunk women into bed. This misogynistic wing of the PUA subculture has a considerable overlap with a subset of traditionalist and far-right blogs. Many of those in what has come to be called “the manosphere” — hey, don’t blame me, I didn’t come up with that name — don’t simply embrace misogyny; they also proudly embrace “scientific” racism and other bigotries.

Still, while some of the New Misogynists see themselves as conservatives, even “neo-reactionaries,” many identify themselves as libertarians or even as liberals. Theirs is a backlash that frames itself as a step forward.

That said, there are numerous posts here that don’t have anything to do with MRAs or MGTOWers or PUAs or any of their ilk. Sometimes I like to post cat pics.

Q) Ok, but you still haven’t explained the mammoth thing.

A) This is a reference to a quote I once posted from a dude who felt women weren’t sufficiently appreciative of what men had supposedly done for them over the ages. Here’s the quote, in all of its weird glory:

We men built a nice safe world for you all the the coal-mines of death, roads, railroads, bridges and tall office buildings. Its $1,000,000 spent per death of a man on a large dangerous project on average now you can just 9-5 it and call it a day in air-conditioned and heated safety. Forget about the wars we died in and the sacrifices made just ignore history or is it now hersorty? You are accruing the benefits without ever having to pay the price you still don’t have to sign up for the draft and who will protect you? The Sex and the City girls will fight off the North Koreans with their Manolo Blahniks?

Men gave you this modern world now you take it for granted we hunted the mammoth to feed you we died in burning buildings and were gassed in the trenches but that was just for fun right?

How quick and conveniently you forget who made this possible.

We gave you Leonardo da Vinci, Dostoevsky, Tolstoy not to mention countless others, Jonas Salk saved half the world from death and you just piss on it all.

This quote is such an amazing clusterfuck of misogyny, entitlement and unwarranted self-importance – not to mention historical ignorance – that the bit about mammoths became a catchphrase around here, neatly conveying pretty much everything this blog is against. And so I decided to make it the name of the blog.

Q) Wasn’t this blog called Man Boobz before?

A) Yes. That was a name I came up with on the spur of the moment when I first started this blog. But it was kind of a dopey name. It didn’t really fit what the blog has become, and I got a bit tired of explaining it to people.

Q) What were you thinking?

A) You see, the “Man Boobz” in question are the misogynistic dudes I write about on this blog. The term “boob,” in addition to meaning “breast,” can also mean “a nincompoop.” It’s a … double entendre? Ha ha!

Q) But you call yourself Manboobz, right?

A) No. I did post as Manboobz on a few sites, but just to identify myself as being connected to this blog. I’ve switched to using my real name.

Q) And what is that?

A) David Futrelle. I’m a freelance writer and blogger living in Chicago, and the guy behind the Confused Cats Against Feminism blog. For more on my illustrious career, see the David Futrelle FAQ.

Q) Do you hate men?

A) Nope.

Q) You’re against the Men’s Rights movement. Are you against men having rights?

A) Of course not. As hundreds of posts on this site show pretty clearly, the so-called Men’s Rights Movement is a hateful, reactionary movement driven largely by misogyny and hatred of feminism. It doesn’t help men. It encourages them to scapegoat women and stew in their own bitterness.

Q) Are you a feminist?

A) Well, yeah. Somehow this wasn’t really a big deal to anyone until I started making fun of misogynists online.

Q) So you admit that you’re not an objective journalist?

A) No one is an objective journalist. But I try to be fair and accurate and upfront about my opinions.

Q) If you’re a feminist, why do you let misogynists and other trolls post comments on your blog?

A) The point of this blog is to expose misogynists and the terrible things they say. So if misogynists want to come here and expose themselves with their own words, I say, why not let them? The feminist commenters here generally enjoy batting them around like a cat toy. That said, I ban those who are abusive, and I’m now setting aside some “no-troll, no-MRA” threads for those who want to discuss the issues, or whatever else they want to discuss, without being derailed or dogged by misogynists.

Q) Are you secretly funded by the international feminist conspiracy?

A) No. I’m not funded by any organization. Some readers have very kindly given me donations. You can too, if you wish. Click that button over there on the right.

Q) Do you advocate killing children?

A) No. Misogynists are assholes, and they tend not to like this blog. So they make up ridiculous shit about me all the time. If a misogynist or MRA says something about me, it is most likely completely untrue. Check their sources, if they have any, and you’ll see that their claims are bullshit.

Q) I heard some MRAs call you fat. Are you fat?

A) Yes, I am fat. This is one of the very few true things MRAs ever say about me. For some reason they like to mention this a lot, as if it’s somehow a rebuttal of what I write.

Q) What’s with all the cat pictures?

A) I like cats.

  1. So “never questioning sexist society” is actually just thinking for yourself? Stupid troll is stupid.

  2. Of course! Misogyny is super edgy and original!

  3. thebewilderness

    OMG!!! I’ll take educational systems for 100 pls Alex.

  4. I can’t believe how hypocritical and delusional this website it. They don’t care about important facts. They rather twist them or focus on little tiny facts. Just because someone is not agree on something about a woman is automatically labels “misogyny”. This is ridiculous and I feel sorry for the walking trash that like this website.

  5. M. the Social Justice Ranger

    Just because someone is not agree on something about a woman is automatically labels “misogyny”.

    Note to #GamerGaters: If you want get us back for tricking you into arguing with chatbots, then you’ll have to do better than this at programming it.

  6. This is ridiculous and I feel sorry for the walking trash that like this website.

    That’s misogyny, given how many people here are women.

    Also, you need to work on your English, both grammar and reading comprehension. -2/10, would not respect.

  7. They don’t care about important facts.

    I’m assuming this refers to boner updates. Because that’s definitely something we don’t care about.

  8. Hmm, myself and most heterosexual men I know actively espouse and applaud women’s rights, character, charm and beauty. Then why are you, ostensibly a man, actively engaged in fomenting mistrust, tension and anger between heterosexual men and women?. Are you actually a homosexual male seeking to further drive a wedge between these two groups, for the obvious reason that you …..wait for it…..hate both of them? Say it ain’t so, Futrelle !

  9. Wow, that insightful commentary is clearly based on an extensive reading of David’s work.


    Actually, some of the thinking on the Manosphere is funny, and not hateful. You probably need to take a look at Taki Magazine, which is not “Manosphere”, per se, but has a lot of very good articles. I am an ex-Leftist, and ex-Democrat, but I am hardly a woman hater. I wonder why more feminists never made any righteous noise about rap music, back when it actually existed, or about the conduct of certain male Democrat politicians. Some guys get a pass, so to speak, some do not. And there is hardly any hatred in my comments at all. Just regret that i did not leave the Left sooner. Oh well. Live and learn.

  11. grumpycatisagirl

    “I wonder why more feminists never made any righteous noise about rap music, back when it actually existed.”

    Um, I think maybe feminists did?

    Also, when did rap music stop actually existing?

  12. And there is hardly any hatred in my comments at all

    Unintentionally telling comment of the day.

  13. I am an ex-Leftist, and ex-Democrat, but I am hardly a woman hater.

    If you’re recommending Taki Magazine then you currently rocking a right-wing blend of paleo-conservativism and Libertarianism. Taki has been around for decades, I assume he’s still a pompous racist ass and failed wit.

    You’re also conflating the right and the manosphere because you’re super excited to be a right winger who makes goofy complaints about feminism.

    I wonder why more feminists never made any righteous noise about rap music, back when it actually existed, or about the conduct of certain male Democrat politicians.

    Wow, this sentence is a real 1990s flashback. Dude, it’s time to get over Clinton and NWA.

  14. Thanks for your site David, it’s been healing to undo so much rubbish I put in my head after stumbling upon rotten dating advice, ‘game’ sites by self proclaimed ‘alphas’ who spend time “reminding” women how they are only valuable according to the male gaze and evolutionary fertility markers, thus being highly disposable at any time. Horrible, horrible drivel.

    There are some things I never understood about the men on those sites…

    1. They proclaim dominance but reveal their dependency on women to feel masculine and powerful while professing their uncontrollable desire to have sexual encounters with women. Since they can’t stop wanting them, thinking about them, constantly talking about them, obsessing about them they try to cover their shame for being sexually dependent in this way by grading women to create an illusion that they control the dynamic between males and females. The thing I don’t get is they can’t see this.

    2. They claim to be ‘alphas’ but are doing what supposed ‘alphas’ wouldn’t do…huddle together in an online support group sharing tips on how to learn to be more alpha. The mind boggles…
    Doesn’t an ‘alpha’ do things independently? Aren’t men innately alpha through his athletic prowess etc and have the status conferred to him by other males not females? Would an ‘alpha’ need a support group to learn how to get ‘hot’ women, wouldn’t he just know it instinctively? If a man is truly ‘alpha’ wouldn’t he be busy doing productive work or spending leisure time in competitive sports rather than sitting at a computer obsessing about dominating women? Wouldn’t an alpha have so many ‘hot’ women throwing themselves at him that he wouldn’t even need an advice group? I smell a pack of phonies.

    3. There are only so many 20 year old ‘hot’ fertile women available at any time, with men between 30-80 thinking they’ve got just as good a chance as each other competing for them. Ridiculous.

    Real intimacy is scary for lots of people, but to turn that fear into hateful propaganda online is weakness not strength. I’ve read so much on what ‘real men’ think from these sites it affected my relationship with my husband but he said its a juvenile way of thinking and that most men mature out of it as they learn to love and be loved so to take no notice of the rot.

    When I pointed these out my comments on the sites they were altered or blocked…probably for fear that the male readers might realise they are missing out on real living and should get out there and learn to LOVE people instead of spreading hateful drivel to vulnerable, hurting men thereby perpetuating it.

    So sad.

  15. emilygoddess - MOD

    I love when people who don’t pay attention to feminism complain that they “haven’t seen” feminists discussing this or that.

    I mean, I haven’t seen Tom Brady make a single touchdown this year, so he’s obviously a shit player (just ignore the fact that I don’t ever watch football).

  16. If you bother to look at it carefully, you may know is true they are ridiculous, they make a big show that they are motivated by reason and facts without even trying to hide their butthurt and misogynistic prejudice.
    Many of them are basement-dwellers and drama queens that are really mad that women can get casual sex while they can´t* and I have a good laugh at them but there is also no smoke without fire, is there?

    Feminists themselves have through their poor behaviour and priorities (ban the word “bossy”, really?) more than contributed to this. There is a large element of misandry and extremism among feminists, misandry is a lot more socially acceptable than mysoginy, our western societies does have certain double-standards.
    If you do not wish to contribute to their cause and fuel the fires of misogyny 2.0, please do not deny that there are existing problems.

    Put simply, in general, both men and women needs to take a hard, critical look at their behaviour and mentality.
    Ether we control our emotions or the emotions (and those snake oilmen and oilwomen manipulating them) controls us.
    When you realize what your flaws are, do not accept them as making you who you are, fight them to the best of your ability.
    Our societies have its problems, that will not go away if they are not tackled and people try to get along with their personal lives.
    These problems are not as simple and easy as either the mainstream medias and politicos, the likes of Roosh or Antia makes it to be. Don´t know what they are? Try to be and remain informed, then.

    * I for one do not presume that women having sex before marriage is a bad thing and do not blame that for divorces and the collapse of western civilization.

  17. Ugh, I see a “both sides, both sides!” got through unnoticed.
    I’ll just link this study that fromafar2013 linked earlier in the glossary.

  18. I find this site interesting and thoughtful; I actually found this from RationalWiki after glancing at Chateau Heartiste and finding it hilariously stupid. But yet, despite the general vibe and I suppose, disgust with the idea of PUA, I can’t help but admit that it /has/ helped me in life.

    I won’t go too much into the details, but I certainly did lead an extremely isolated and lonely life, and effectively fit most of the conceptions, I think, of the “nice guy” who was excessively insecure and sexually frustrated. Certain PUA ideas toward being more aggressive, helped me become more confident and enabled me in relationships. There is a certain vibe of truth that applies to many women in my experience.

    Since then, of course, I’ve dismissed most of the concepts beyond the basic(alpha is a pretty stupid, the amount of man-to-man hugging they do is epic, and its a cesspit of seriously scary woman-hat), but I do think there’s something valid about it. It helped me, at the least, and perhaps its unfortunate – I would have much rather have been more “successful” by being overall nice, self-effacing and perhaps a bit insecure, but it does seem to have some validity that by affecting overt confidence and reducing empathy, dating prospects worked out better for me. At least it did then; eventually I gained real confidence and have a kind of steady calmness which does seem to “work.”

    It might be a sad testament toward society, culture or anything, but its worth mentioning. It doesn’t have much to do with the almost frothing insecurity and female-hate that a lot of these so-called PUA bloggers have though.

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