Comments Policy

Don’t make me do this.

[UPDATED — rather radically — 7/20/2015]

Welcome to We Hunted the Mammoth! If you’d like to comment here, read this first.

Unmoderated internet forums quickly become shitheaps, so we have a few rules here. One thing to remember right off the bat: this is a feminist blog, designed (mostly) for a feminist audience. You don’t have to be a particular kind of feminist to post here, or even a feminist at all, but you do need to keep this in mind.

First comments from new commenters – or old commenters changing their name – automatically go to moderation. Regardless of your politics, if you start off here with a jerky or tediously argumentative comment, or if you trigger some other red flag for me, your first comment will never see the light of day.

MRAs, MGTOWs, PUAs, Red Pillers, “Equalists,” #GamerGaters and the like: you will be allowed to post here, if your first comment is amusing and/or not especially egregious, and if you more-or-less behave.

But I reserve the right to revoke your posting privileges at any time for any reason. You have a right to your opinions, but you don’t have a right to our attention. I am especially not interested in hearing your thoughts on Anita Sarkeesian (or some other target of angry dude harassment online).

Oh, and I sometimes set aside threads here as “no troll, no MRA” threads. If you post in one of them, even politely, you will be banned.

If you’re NOT an MRA or a troll, welcome!

You’re who this blog is really meant for. The comments too, provided you can participate in a generally constructive manner and can treat those you disagree with here with a certain degree of respect. Snark is fine; attacks and accusations and namecalling, not so much. 

If someone – whether a troll or a regular commenter — is acting badly enough to possibly warrant a suspension or ban, EMAIL ME OR THE MODS. That’s the fastest and most effective way to get it taken care of.

Some slightly more specific guidelines.

No bigotry (misogyny, racism, homophobia, transphobia, ableism, body shaming, and so forth). No slurs. I’ve put the worst ones in the mod filter, so comments containing them won’t appear. If you want to discuss someone else’s use of a slur, disguise the word so your comment won’t get caught by the filter – though if you do this as a “clever” way to use a slur yourself, you may well find yourself banned.

No threats or violent comments. That includes telling someone to “die in a fire” or remarking that so-and-so would probably be better off dead. This rule is in effect even when you are talking about vile misogynistic shitbags.

No gratuitously nasty personal attacks. Yes, discussions can sometimes get a bit contentious. You’re not required to be perfectly nice all the time. Just don’t be a total asshole. And don’t drag your disagreements with someone into every thread.

No doxxing or posting of personal identifying information. Don’t spread rumors or speculate without evidence on the possible criminal activity of anyone else, whether this is another commenter or a misogynistic shitbag.

No rape apologism, pedo apologism, victim blaming, and so forth.

Don’t misgender anyone. If you do it accidentally, apologize and get it right the next time. If you do it deliberately, you’re out.

Don’t attack anyone for their sexual preferences or kinks, so long as they involve consenting adults. Refrain from weird or creepy sexual oversharing. Whatever your opinion of sex work, don’t disparage sex workers, or use words like “whore” as a pejorative. (Feel free to talk about MRAs who are using the word pejoratively.)

Don’t attack people for their religion or their lack of religion.

Don’t be a mansplainer or indeed any kind of ‘splainer. That is, don’t lecture anyone on something they know better than you, particularly if that thing is their lived experience.

Don’t post too much or try to make threads all about you. Try to avoid drama.

If you have personal issues you want to bring up, that’s fine! Use the troll-free open threads set aside for personal stuff. I’ll post a new one every couple of weeks. (I also start threads regularly to discuss big events in the news that people here are concerned about; feel free to email if you think something has happened that warrants one.)

No sockpuppeting. No lying. No misrepresentation of yourself or other people. No posting in bad faith – e.g. posting friendly comments here while trashing the site and/or the people on it elsewhere.

No pile-ons. If a number of people have already offered the same criticism of another commenter, don’t add more comments to the pile.

All this said, you don’t have to be perfect to comment here. As sociologist Katherine Cross (@Quinnae_Moon) has noted, very few people arrive “fully formed to the world of activism, the perfect agents of change, somehow entirely cognizant of the ever shifting morass of rules and prescribed or proscribed words, phrases, argot, and thought.”

I want this blog to be open to all those who genuinely oppose misogyny and bigotry more generally, even those who may slip up from time to time.

Still, if you’re new here, or new to feminism, and the regulars here are telling you to avoid certain words, or pointing out something that you’re doing that’s problematic, don’t take it as a personal attack (unless it is couched as a personal attack, in which case email me). If they tell you to avoid particular language, uh, avoid using that language, and don’t explain that in your country calling a person a something-or-other is perfectly fine.

You don’t have to agree with all the rules and/or cultural norms here; but while you’re commenting here you are expected to respect them. If you think a rule is really, really wrong or ridiculous, don’t argue about it in the comments; send me an email about it.

And this brings us to the issue of ableism, which has been a contentious one here.


Avoid “crazy” talk. That is, using words like “crazy,” “psycho” and the like to describe the terrible ideas and actions of people you don’t like. It’s stigmatizing to those dealing with mental illness, who really don’t need the extra indignity of being compared to MRAs. Try using words like “ridiculous” or “absurd” or “terrible” instead. Call someone an “asshole” instead of a “psycho.” Try to avoid internet diagnoses of mental illness, and don’t use autism or Aspergers as an excuse for someone’s shitty behavior.

Saying someone is “paranoid,” “delusional,” or “narcissistic” is fine, if you don’t mean it as a diagnosis; these are useful descriptive terms.

If there is evidence that someone you are discussing does indeed have a mental illness, and this is relevant to the discussion, it can be appropriate to bring this up, though you should keep in mind that a hunch is not evidence.

All this said, words like “crazy,” “psycho,” and the like are extremely common, and plenty of people (including feminists, progressives, and people dealing with mental illness themselves) use them casually without intending to stigmatize those with mental illnesses. There’s a difference between saying “crazy people should all be locked up” and “boy, Eraserhead sure was a crazy movie!”

If you’re someone who uses these terms casually, and doesn’t actually want all “crazy” people locked up, it doesn’t make you an evil person, but you need to refrain from doing it here. (Again, if you disagree with this policy, and feel a need to make this disagreement known, DO NOT ARGUE ABOUT IT IN THE COMMENTS, send me an email instead.)

If you are a regular commenter here, and someone uses a problematic term like “crazy” or “psycho,” remind them gently that this is not how we do things here, and send them a link to this comment policy (and possibly the Welcome Package as well). Unless what they have said is particularly egregious, do not insult them or question their motives.

If they argue, remind them that arguing about this rule is also not allowed. If they continue,do not argue back; send me or the mods a note and they will be banned. (This may take a little while, so be patient and please do not give in to the impulse to argue with them.)

If others have already reminded them of the rules, move on.

Again, if someone is acting really shitty in the comments, whether a troll or a regular, SEND THE MODS (or me) AN EMAIL.

One other thing to keep in mind:

MRAs read this blog. So I would strongly urge you to comment here using an anonymous handle that cannot be traced to your real identity. And to be very careful about revealing any sort of personal information on this blog. If you inadvertently post something using the wrong account, or that otherwise reveals personal information, let the mods know so we can remove those comments.

Oh, wait, one other other thought:

Enjoy yourself!

  1. I get painfully explodey cysts on my ovaries. I hate them more than Dean hates women not minding his sad boner for him. They call them chocolate cysts but you wouldn’t want to find one in your Easter Basket. They are hit the ground puking, sweating and turning gray painful.
    Google pics of “ruptured chocolate cyst” Dean-o. That should cure your sad boneritus.


  2. Good lord that kitty has some weird anatomy.

    Either that, or fluff is making my brain go “Wha?” again.

    The neck’s super long.

  3. Policy of Madness

    Something about that cat isn’t right.

  4. If Buttercup doesn’t want my attention, then she should be glad that what I want is to not desire her.

    A lifetime of thinking of women only in terms of their relationship to your pants feelings has evidently convinced you that women think of ourselves that way. Not the case.

  5. I have heard that marijuana can ease the pain of menstrual cramps. Queen Victoria successfully used it for that purpose.

    Now we know that there are two distinct active ingredients in marijuana: THC, which produces the “high” and CBD, which has medical benefits, such as stopping seizures when nothing else could. One strain of marijuana, which has CBD and almost no THC, is called Charlotte’s Web, because a little girl named Charlotte found that it stopped her seizures.

    Which ingredient relieves the menstrual cramps? Maybe you should find out — ask your doctor he right questions.

  6. Policy of Madness

    I’m just going to sit here a moment and bask in the hilarity of a dude giving out menstrual advice.

  7. Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)


    You gotta give him the credit that he’s not squicked and knows a little something about it.

    You know what else weed can do Dean?

    Stop boners.

    Maybe instead of having dangerous fucking drugs that has all sorts of horrible side effects, you try smoking a blunt every once in a while and chill the fuck out.

    And I’m saying that unironically.

    What I’m not saying unironically: Get the fuck out of here, my god, Dean, my god just go. Go and take your boner troubles elsewhere.

    Or you can stay and not mention your boner problems any more.

    Either way, if I hear about your goddamn libido again I am going to be disappointed and then write a post directed at you that is 100x more angry than I actually am IRL.

  8. Policy of Madness

    You gotta give him the credit that he’s not squicked and knows a little something about it.

    I give him no credit, because this takes mansplanation to an entirely new summit. It’s going to be a hard slog for any mansplainer who tries to top this one.

  9. Dean Walker:

  10. Is there any problem in the world that Dean doesn’t think drugs can fix?

  11. Policy of Madness

    Is there any problem in the world that Dean doesn’t feel qualified to opine upon?

  12. Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)


    I didn’t mean “giving him credit” as in give him a brownie point, I meant he at least scanned all the crap that we wrote to gross him out and he came back and gave us advice for it. We were suppose to gross him out, but it didn’t work. Wascally wabbit and all that shit.

  13. NothingClever

    Dean, a little advice. I’m sure your intentions are good (or at least you think they are), but when you tell random women on the internet that you desire them (implied because you don’t WANT to desire them), it comes across as a little…creepy.

    You’ve burned your bridges here. So here’s the advice part: Cut and run. There’s nothing you can possibly say now that’s going to make any of us view you as less of a creep. I only hope your IRL interactions with fellow hoomins aren’t so awkward.

  14. Oh my god, he tried to come in and mansplain menstrual cramps and how fucking weed works.

    I wish I had some, because I’d need to be high to deal with this shit. (And I’d make it into some edibles too so I’d at least have some cookies or something.)

  15. Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)


    You know, I’ve always wanted to try weed but, well, you know, currently illegal for recreational use.

  16. I like weed but it gives me dry mouth and you can’t go to work high. So it really makes no sense as menstrual cramp relief. Not when ibuprofen (legal and doesn’t have a narcotic effect!) works pretty well.

  17. Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)


    Yeah, and there’s still a lot of workplaces that drug test and will fire people if they test positive for whatever the test to detect weed for, even if it’s medicinal.

  18. I live in California currently, so I can get a freebie on the medicinal stuff to a point (if I had a card). It’s legal at the state level, but not a federal, so I can still get busted by the fuzz for it, medicinal or not.

    And it depends on where you work. I interned at a place where I’m sure my boss wouldn’t have given two shits. (He offered to help me get California weed to friends of mine in Raleigh once.)

  19. Good lord that kitty has some weird anatomy.

    It’s a munchkin!

  20. Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)



    I didn’t know they made squishy faced munchkins.

    (At least they’re diversifying, I guess. Those poor cats are inbred to hell and back.)

  21. Scented Fucking Hard Chairs

    … Is anybody else desperately regretting their TMI gross-posts? >_>;

    (David or a mod, could you possibly delete mine?)

  22. Flying Mouse

    Which ingredient relieves the menstrual cramps? Maybe you should find out — ask your doctor he right questions.

    That’s rich coming from a dude who poo-poos mental health practitioners and self-medicates with drugs he prescribes himself off label.

    I’m almost tempted to sally forth with my tales from the childbirth trenches. I’m curious about what Dean will recommend for postpartum recovery.

  23. I have heard that marijuana can ease the pain of menstrual cramps. Queen Victoria successfully used it for that purpose.<blockquote/)

    That's one spectacularly clueless mansplaination.
    Think about how old that info is. Think about how long we've been people with uteri.
    No look at your life choices and despair.

    You don't know your ass from your elbow. Are you even capable of seeing what a stupid douche bag you are? Is it really so beyond you to realize that you are not better informed than we are when it comes to our bodies? Are you that self deluded? Fuck off asshat. Go peddle your woo-woo-bullshit elsewhere.

    No regrets.

  24. EJ (The Other One)

    @Flying Mouse:

    I’m curious about what Dean will recommend for postpartum recovery.

    Laudanum, probably.

  25. Flying Mouse

    That’s awfully recent technology, EJ. I was thinking he’d go for leeches, or a good old fashioned purgative.

  26. EJ (The Other One)

    I must disagree, Flying Mouse. Leeches and purges will restore his masculine vigor and have him lusty and arduous in no time. Dean is looking for something that will sap his virility and leave him flaccid and unmanly. For this, one must learn Danish eat quinoa vote Green own a SmartCar take opiates.

  27. EJ (The Other One)

    Oh god. Oh god. I just worked it out.

    Dean may be here because he posted about his woes in an MRA forum, and they replied, “Hey, if you want to learn to become a mangina, why don’t you go and learn from David Futrelle?”

    So he did.

    It explains so much: the Ctrl+F Ctrl+V’d initial post, the painful literalism, the not-really-giving-a-shit. Dean is waiting for David to appear, at which point he will kowtow and say “teach me, master.” Until then, the rest of us are just background noise.

  28. EJ (The Other One)

    *Ctrl+C Ctrl+V, not Ctrl+F.

  29. @EJ (The Other One)

    Mangina lessons with David sound like a much better investment of time/money than 1-on-1 counselling with Paul Elam, that’s for sure. Dean’s not going about it in a great way though.

  30. MAMMOTH! *shakes fist*

  31. Buttercup Q. Skullpants

    As for the hate, there is no way to not hate that which causes unbearable suffering.

    Only if your suffering is 1) caused by a person, and 2) they’re doing it deliberately. That’s just not true, in the case of attraction. Attraction is what it is. Sure, people can be absolute jerks when rejecting other people, but the underlying attraction (or lack thereof) doesn’t have an intention.

    Attraction’s not a monolithic thing, either. There’s very few people that every single person on earth universally finds attractive or not attractive. One or two rejections, even a hundred rejections, isn’t a final referendum. It’s painful and unpleasant and it sucks, sure, but it’s only unbearable if you decide to make it that way, if you get trapped in the vicious cycle of rejection –> anger –> rejection –> anger, and pretty soon the alpha particles are fissioning of their own accord and radiating little gamma rays of hatred, and you’ve reached critical rejection mass. It’s awfully hard to turn back from that.

    I think people would have more sympathy for you, Dean, if you had experienced any post-medication epiphany, such as “Oh gosh, my high libido was really negatively affecting my interactions with women, maybe now that I’m hormonally calmer I can get my head on straight and try again”. But it doesn’t seem to have changed much of anything, other than allowing you to maintain an “avoid women” attitude with a clear conscience, which really isn’t a good long-term solution, seeing as how women are all over the place nowadays and it’s hard to avoid interacting with them.

    Did Elliot Rodgers and George Sodini know that there is such a thing as cyperterone acetate?

    AUGH. NO NO NO no no no no no. NO.

    NO in ten-mile-high flaming letters.

    NO stamped in gold sans serif font across the firmament.

    NO written across the entire universe in cursive made out of galaxies.

    Those murders would *not* have been prevented by peen medication, because Elliot Rodgers and George Sodini *were not* motivated by unfulfilled lust. Theywere fueled by grandiosity, narcissism, a feeling of powerlessness, and easy access to weapons. Women were just a scapegoat for all of that. Shooting sprees, like rape, are all about victimizing others in order to feel powerful. Lust has zilch-all to do with it (which is why rape victims span all ages, clothing styles, locations, times, sobriety levels, etc).

    It’s also morally repellant to suggest that lives would be saved if the peens of these mass murderers could be propitiated by some external force (women, drugs, government-sponsored sex workers). That’s extortion, pure and simple. It rewards evil and reduces women to the level of sacrificial volcano virgins. And would pity sex really make any dent in the aggrieved grandiosity of guys like Elliot Rodgers? From all accounts, he never even approached any women. The rejection he felt was entirely inside his head.

    Regarding Mexican products, it’s not being racist to point out that product safety standards vary wildly worldwide. In fact, crappy, dangerous products are frequently the result of U.S. companies deliberately outsourcing their manufacturing centers to countries where regulations are more lax. Corners get cut, safety gets compromised, quality control looks the other way, costs get reduced so Walmart can charge $1.50 for melamine-laced pet food and not pay benefits to its workers. That’s global capitalism for you.

    But yeah, I think pinatas should have separate drinking fountains.

  32. Buttercup Q. Skullpants

    Oops, small blockquote fail up there. Sorry. I was too busy ranting to notice the blockquote mammoth stealthily snacking on my HTML tag.

  33. Creepy Dean is banned. And scented hard chair’s TMI comment has been deleted, as requested.

    Just a reminder: the fastest/most effective way to get creepy commenters dealt with is to email me/the mods. I’m often a bit behind in reading the comments and may not see ban/deletion requests right away if they’re in the comments.

  34. Policy of Madness

    Oh, darn. You mean we won’t get to read any more about the weeping of Dean’s cock? How ever shall I manage to get through my life now?

  35. I hear weeping cocks are a side effect of illegal Mexican testosterone-lowering drugs.

  36. This is actually a MGTOW site. No real man hating feminist site would mention anything about the MRM. Any comments about it would be deleted. Go to the NOW site and see.

  37. Actually, it’s not, Joe. If you look at the header, you’ll see “The New Misogyny, Tracked and Mocked.” This blog is about mocking misogyny. There’s also a little blurb detailing this on the sidebar. Also an FAQ.

    This is really, really not a MGTOW site.

  38. Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)


    They have to be trolling, especially when they’re commenting in a thread in which many of us discuss our constipation/diarrhea during our periods. I don’t think anyone on MGTOW would do that for many reasons, the number one being that I don’t any transmen would be apart of MGTOW (though I could be proven wrong).

  39. Pandapool: Yeah, I know Joe America is trolling. I’m just snarking at trolls during my break :)

  40. CinnamonStix

    Loving the current rules. Also, I find it hilarious people thinking this is a MGTOW site. This exposes all new misogyny, MRAs, the laughable MGTOW, etc.

  41. I’ve revised the comments policy, rather radically. Discuss in this thread:

  42. Dean certainly got all the attention he wanted.

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