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Two teen girls outed family members as MAGA rioters; the Daily Stormer wants the “snitches” beaten and raped

MILA: A Mom I’d Like to Arrest

In the wake of the attack on the Capitol on Wednesday, a wide variety of people, from FBI agents to Antifa activists, have been poring over photos and videos of the incident looking for familiar faces.

Two teenage girls spotted family members in the mob and outed them on Twitter, inspiring a story on Russian propaganda outlet RT denouncing these “teenage touts” for their “Stasi-style snitching.”

Andrew Anglin of the neo-Nazi rag the Daily Stormer saw this article and decided to take RT’s, er, critique of the girls a couple of steps further.

After announcing, in headline-sized letters, that “[b]lood comes before everything else,” Anglin blames the “snitching” on the fact that the “snitches” are female.

“But of course: all of these snitches are women, because they have no loyalty to blood,” he writes.

They have no loyalty to anything other than themselves, and that typically translates into loyalty to the system, which they view as their protector.

His solution:

We have to stop women.

But how? Anglin imagines scenes of extreme brutality:

The appropriate thing would be to beat them up badly, including breaking their ribs, and then rape them, brutally, and then lock them in cages.

Then he takes a step back so that (in his mind at least) no one can accuse him of explicitly advocating violence.

But we of course can’t do that.

Instead, he suggests a more palatable “boycott” of women, MGTOW-style.

Don’t talk to them. Don’t make eye contact with them. Treat them with total disdain.

This is more powerful if you’re handsome, well dressed and in good shape. And you should be handsome, well dressed and in good shape for yourself, anyway.

That’s it. That’s his whole plan. But I’m all for this boycott of his. Somehow I doubt the women of the world will be heartbroken if Nazis — even well-dressed handsome Nazis — start ignoring them.

Unfortunately, as with the MGTOWs who seem to be Anglin’s inspiration here, the men who talk the most about ignoring women tend to be the ones most obsessed with them, comically unable to “go their own way.”

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Cyborgette
Cyborgette
15 days ago

Good gods. I hope the kids have somewhere safe to shelter. Outing parents’ bad behavior is dangerous in the best of cases; when the parents are violent fascists like this I can’t even imagine the risk. What those girls did was brave as hell and I hope they’re going to be okay.

As for Anglin, well. I wish nothing but bad things on him, and those bad things could very well include a beating for all I care.

Naglfar
Naglfar
15 days ago

[b]lood comes before everything else

Says a man who has no family and is hiding somewhere.

They have no loyalty to anything other than themselves

The alt right: known for the loyalty of its members to each other. They never turn on each other. /s

and that typically translates into loyalty to the system

So, do they have no loyalty or are they loyal to “the system”? Make up your mind.

Don’t talk to them. Don’t make eye contact with them.

Actually, I wouldn’t mind if Nazis did this. This isn’t a terrible idea. Nazis, please avoid me, and I’ll return the favor.

Diego
Diego
15 days ago

Remember back when we talked about the only appropriate way to deal with Nazis? Yeah, no regrets to what I said. Gallows for the leadership and the hatemongers at the very least. Biden could even take advantage of the reinstatement of capital punishment at the federal level Trump gave us, even if for a couple of cases, before doing away with it again.

As for this, I can only hope Andrew Anglin is found, wherever he is hiding. That little dipshit needs to rot in jail for all the terror he has personally helped spread around the darkest corners of the internet.

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Perry
Perry
15 days ago

Holy fucking shit, talk about incitement of violence. I’m assuming the “but we can’t do that” part is an attempt at legal plausible deniability?

I’m conflicted about the RT article because while I’m not shedding a tear for any MAGA chuds who end up implicated, I’m also not keen on doing the cops’ job for them. And regardless of how shitty they are, being in a position where you can turn your family members over to the cops is very sad and potentially damaging to you all on its own, especially as a teenager. Not worthy of condemnation obviously, but not a celebratory event either.

The way that article is written is pretty amusing though. The author is obviously seething.

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee
weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee
15 days ago

One of those girls is apparently lesbian, who’s been kicked out of the house for it by the Trumper parents, so no sympathy for the parents obviously. It also adds an especially creepy corrective rape element to the whole backlash against her.

Surplus to Requirements
Surplus to Requirements
15 days ago

Hello, comments policy?

Meanwhile, evidence is coming to light that there was some level of serious organized planning behind Wednesday’s attempted coup. We have this, for starters:

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2021/1/8/2007306/-Dark-money-group-behind-Republican-state-attorneys-general-organized-protest-before-the-insurrection

Though most of the invaders in the Capitol building were a rabble of what some might describe as right-wing trail mix, and who didn’t seem to have an organized plan for after they’d entered the building beyond wandering around demanding “Where’s Nancy Pelosi?” and the like (one woman even expressed, to a reporter, bafflement about what she was supposed to do next — “Hi, I’m new to carrying out violent coups, do you have a step-by-step guide or a For Dummies book or anything?”) there was a subset of them who apparently meant serious business. Guys with body armor, weapons, zipties sprinkled about within the mass.

My guess is that there were three groups there: a huge mass of rabble demonstrating on and around the Capitol grounds; the smaller, but still large group of unorganized fanatics who broke in; and a small, embedded unit of possibly-professional paramilitaries with a clear-cut mission.

The larger mass of “protesters” had a triple function: serve as a general cover and distraction for what was really being planned, including to divert and dilute to some extent any police presence; break into the building and into the House and Senate chambers within; and be the fall guys plus plausible deniability that it was anything more than a riot that got out of hand; with the latter two functions applying only to the subset who entered the building. Once that subset had breached the chambers, that was when the paramilitary unit was going to ensure the desired regime change took place — only the cops, despite being sabotaged by their own commanders and by Vichy quislings sprinkled among their rank and file, proved able to prevent the chambers being breached.

The identity of the paramilitary group is harder to determine. They could be one of the more serious, less weekend-warrior right-wing militia groups; they could be actual pros; any affiliation indicating things they carried (e.g. III% flags, Oath Keepers hats, etc.) could be phony to stymie identification of what group they really came from and deflect blame later, in case of failure. As for who hired them … well, the Kos article suggests it could have been a veritable who’s-who of Fortune 500 CEOs who’ve decided that 1930s Germany would have been a nice place to conduct their business.

Last edited 15 days ago by Surplus to Requirements
Big Titty Demon
Big Titty Demon
15 days ago

Those poor girls. How has the Daily Stormer not lost its web hosting? Even Amazon is kicking Parler off the internet for inciting violence now.

Dalillama
15 days ago

@Surplus
The zip-tie guys have been identified, one is retired from the Army, the other’s a bartender. Well, was, he’s under arrest now. There were also a bunch of active duty military there, so far at least 25 of them are looking down the barrel of a court-martial. There was no organized subgroup, no detailed plan to be carried out by competent people while the chuds out front set up a distraction. It’s incompetent jackasses all the way down.

Crip Dyke
15 days ago

@Dalillama

I had been thinking the same way, but the more I learn, the more I am convinced that there were plans, and that “jackass” doesn’t begin to cover the nature of participation in the insurrection.

You may not agree, of course, but my opinion of those who marched and stood on Capitol grounds but did not enter the building has gotten worse and worse as new info has come to light.

I’m usually resolutely against charges like “riot” not because of the theory behind them, but because of how they are used. At this point, however, I’d be perfectly sanguine if the most serious charge for the least seriously charged persons who actually entered the Capitol was “riot” (18 USC 2101) and the most serious charge for minimally charged persons on the restricted grounds outside the Capitol Building is DCC 22-404. (Inside or outside the building, they would obviously also be charged with the appropriate form of trespass, etc. as well.) This does not preclude the more serious charges of Rebellion & Insurrection (18 USC 2383) where appropriate, nor would it preclude appropriate murder or assault charges.

I don’t like our government much, but what happened 1/6/2021 was a lot more serious than a bunch of jackasses fucking around.

KindaSortaHarmless
KindaSortaHarmless
15 days ago

I just think it’s hilarious that Russian propaganda is condemning its enemies for using “Stasi-like” tactics.

Dalillama
15 days ago

@Crip Dyke
Yes, the people attacking the Capitol were sincere, and genuinely intended harm. That’s not in question. The question is whether there was an inner cadre that had a more complex or workable plan than “burn the electoral ballots, find the evidence of the Deep State adrenochrome cabal, and shoot/hang our least favorite politicians and then we win.” There wasn’t and isn’t. These chucklefucks couldn’t even organize their own porta-potties after months of what passes for planning among this lot. They’re terrorists, insurrectionists, whatever you want to call them, but the simple truth is that they’re stupefyingly bad at it. Zip-tie guy was caught partially because he posed for selfies with his mom in full fig before going to commit a few dozen felonies. Buffalo Q called the FBI to narc on himself. They literally killed one of their own people and didn’t even notice, let alone care. We are not looking at something set up by people with the beginnings of a clue, we are looking at a bunch of people who think life’s an action movie and they’re Chuck Norris. Afaict only one of them even bothered to wear a mask while committing dozens of crimes on camera. These are the mediocre white people Ijeoma Oluo wrote a book about, and they’re throwing a huge racist tantrum about the idea of a society not designed to cater entirely to them. They’re dangerous because they’re armed, but it’s the same danger of assholes on shooting sprees we already have, not a functional, structured OpFor.

Pagan Reader - Misandrist Spinster
Pagan Reader - Misandrist Spinster
15 days ago

Don’t talk to them. Don’t make eye contact with them.

Don’t threaten me with a good time

Simon
Simon
15 days ago

I’m guessing everyone already saw this but I’ll post it just in case
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occasional reader
occasional reader
15 days ago

Hello.

[b]lood comes before everything else

That is the horrible argument of too many “familial” rapers to incite their victims not to report them to the police (in addition to other threats, of course). May they dance barfoot in Hell on hellish legos.

Ohlmann
Ohlmann
15 days ago

@Diego : the gravity of the sentence isn’t terribly important, the swiftness and certainty of it is.

So no use of reinstating capital sentence or any horseshit like that. If they are all convicted and in prison for 10-20 years in a week, that will do infinitely more good than killing them in three month. Plus if there’s an error somewhere, releasing him will be easier than resuscitating him.

That’s why the impeachment on Trump is important. Showing immediate consequence is a big break from their habits.

@coup : it was completely organized and planned since several month. The fall guys were dupe, and stupid, and incompetent, but Trump planned this. He’s just too much of a moron to inject enough leadership and logistic for it to actually work.

In other words, Crip and Dali are both right : it’s an organized coup, made by incompetent and disorganized moron. Think a general sending an army, but the army have no internal leadership.

Pie
Pie
15 days ago

@Surplus to Requirements

My guess is that there were three groups there: a huge mass of rabble demonstrating on and around the Capitol grounds; the smaller, but still large group of unorganized fanatics who broke in; and a small, embedded unit of possibly-professional paramilitaries with a clear-cut mission.

There were certainly smaller groups who came equipped and with a plan… checkout these guys: https://nitter.snopyta.org/jsrailton/status/1348115530654347266#m

There were people there who knew their way around the building, and knew where some staffers’ real offices were… the ones where they do work, not the ones with their names over the door. (can’t find my reference for this now… buried under a flood of twittering, but I can try and dig it up later if anyone was interested). They had plans, and tools, and they went there fully intending to do something very bad. Very nearly managed it, too.

Someone knew what was going to happen, and deliberately hamstrung capitol security.

Thing is though, its all small beans by the standards of an actual coup. There was no overarching plan… the whole stupid enterprise was doomed from the get go. There was no mastermind, no attempt to follow through, just a stupid mob who broke in, got bored and wandered out again because there was nothing for them to do.

Kat, ambassador, feminist revolution (in exile)
Kat, ambassador, feminist revolution (in exile)
15 days ago

The appropriate thing would be to beat them up badly, including breaking their ribs, and then rape them, brutally, and then lock them in cages.

But this is Anglin’s solution to every imaginary problem. It’s also his imaginary perfect first date. And he never gets beyond the “lock them in cages” step. Presumably that’s because his right hand — or is it his left? — is tired. But my inquiring mind needs to know: Will he feed his captive — and if so, what? Is he any kind of cook? Will he let her out for exercise? To use the bathroom? What will he do when his victim’s parents knock on his door? (Besides shit his pants.) Or the police? (Again, besides shitting his pants.) What if she dies? (More explosive shitting.) Where will he bury the corpse? (No more shitting — there’s only so much a body can do.)

Kat, ambassador, feminist revolution (in exile)
Kat, ambassador, feminist revolution (in exile)
15 days ago

A small group of sleuths had been identifying right-wing extremists long before the attack on the Capitol

Before a mob of Trump supporters staged a riot in the U.S. Capitol and thousands of Americans became amateur detectives working to identify the culprits, a loosely connected group of seasoned online sleuths were ringing alarm bells and picking off extremists online, one by one. . . .

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/antifa-far-right-doxing-identities/2021/01/10/41721de0-4dd7-11eb-bda4-615aaefd0555_story.html

rv97
rv97
15 days ago

INB4 they pull a “it’s the Soviet Union all over again”, but those parents deserve their misfortune. Fascist Trump supporters want to enslave pretty much most humans to help some master chase profit margins or give people some paternalist “salvation”, whatever that might be.

Threp (formerly Shadowplay)
Threp (formerly Shadowplay)
15 days ago

Parler just got stripmined. For every bit of data, including all the deleted posts.

https://twitter.com/bitburner/status/1348558563019427842

We do indeed live in interesting times.

My computer geekery is far too low level to follow the whole thing, but the geeks I do know are both ecstatic and professionally furious about it.

Last edited 15 days ago by Threp (formerly Shadowplay)
Naglfar
Naglfar
15 days ago

@Big Titty Demon

How has the Daily Stormer not lost its web hosting?

They’ve moved hosts several times, I don’t know who currently hosts them. My guess would be they keep playing the alt right plausible deniability card.

Re: the attackers, I know that at least a few capitol police officers appear to have helped them navigate the building, such as finding Sen. Schumer’s office, so they did have some degree of help from the inside.

Re: the mining of Parler
I’m not really surprised, this was bound to happen at some point given the right’s typical attitude towards information security. Now I’m curious, since Parler requires social security numbers for verification, if those will released.

Ohlmann
Ohlmann
15 days ago

@Nagflar : to be entirely honest, that would happen to almost all sites of that size. They are not big enough to truly care about security. And attackers only need to find a crack once.

But, yes, Parler being mostly a grift used to extract money from conservative mean they really did not have to care about security. What is the worse that can happen ? And since when do conservative care about any shit pulled off by their “allies” ?

Moon Custafer
Moon Custafer
15 days ago

@Naglfar:
 

since Parler requires social security numbers for verification

 
I’d forgotten that Parler required that (falls over laughing at the “absolute-freedom-of-speech, no-political-correctness” website that required more personal info to join than any other online social network.)

Till wer sonst
Till wer sonst
15 days ago

“They have no loyalty to anything other than themselves.”

-Ernst Röhm

Pie
Pie
14 days ago

@Ohlmann

Parler being mostly a grift used to extract money from conservative

Well now. That depends entirely on how conspiratorial you’re feeling, doesn’t it?

Relevant twitter thread: https://nitter.net/davetroy/status/1327253991936454663

TL;DR: may or may not be a russian op, but it is (was) certainly funded by people who knew what they were doing and who certainly acheived some of their goals. Compare the impact of parler to gab, for example.

Ohlmann
Ohlmann
14 days ago

@Pie : if you compare it to Gab, then you indeed have a point that it could have been a successful psy ops from whoever want to destabilize America.

Admitely, I am blinded by the fact objectively Twitter and Facebook have done a thousand time more for the cause of the far right, and thoses two don’t look like psy ops.

Also, the requirement of personal infos and stuff like that make my default assumption be “conservative affinity fraud”, but it could be that *and* a side project of the KGB.

Herbert West
Herbert West
14 days ago

Sometimes before the election I read some interview with a bunch of yokels, and one said something along the lines of “Trump did so much for us, no it’s our time to help him.” I thought “What? What did that swine do for you except talking? How did your worthless and shitty lifes improve thanks to him?”
If faith needed any logic or reason, no one would believe in sky excuses, and Trump has long ago become a god to these cretins.
I don’t know why I even type this. I just wanted to say that despise them all.
All these miserable shits who can feel only something when they make someone else miserable.
The only good thing is that under a fascist regime none of them would fare any better. They are tools now, they would be tools then. Useful idiots to die on some battlefield for a cause their useless brains can’t even begin to fathom.
They deserve no benefit of a doubt anymore, no love, no understanding and no forgiveness.
A lot to be scorned and hated, because that’s all they gave in life, and it’s all they deserve.

Lumipuna
Lumipuna
14 days ago

I’ll just say, if it’s true that women lack some innate loyalty to their native family/tribe, that’d have been handy in the Olden Times when upon marriage, women usually moved from their parents’ household/village to their husband’s. Particularly in paleolithic times, neighboring bands of hunter-gatherers were essentially foreign nations to each other, with occasional violent conflict, but frequent intermarriage was necessary to avoid inbreeding. More recently, same applied to the uppermost socioeconomic crust of large hierarchical states. Sometimes, women were very much non-consensually kidnapped of traded off from their natal communities, with the expectation that they’d adapt to a new foreign community.

Pie
Pie
14 days ago

@Herbert West

…a bunch of yokels…worthless and shitty life…these cretins…

Whilst I’m not in favor of the sort of “forgive and forget” that certain republicans (and, depressingly, democrats) are asking for right now, I will say that it bears remembering that these people have been on the receiving end of some weapons-grade psyops for decades, from church and state and neighbours and industry, and you are not going to bring them back into the reality-based community talking like that. Nobody is going to countenance “getting rid of them”, and they make up such a substantial proportion of the population of the US that they can’t simply be ignored, no matter how much you might despise them.

Nobody will thank you for using elitist and ablist slurs, either.

Ohlmann
Ohlmann
14 days ago

There are three responsible for that debacle, each who are fully responsible :

  • the greedy ultra liberalists who impoverished the middle class and destroyed the economy of whole countries, creating the despair the next link needed
  • the psyops perpetrators and various profiteer, who used the existing despair to recruit dupe and benefit from them. Some by fleecing them, some by destabilizing countries
  • the dupes themselves, because shitty circumstances and bad influence don’t remove their free wills, and they got intoxicated on hate and privilege by their own will

The fact we will have to reinsert the dupes into society is true, but that should not come at the expense of being too liberal in forgiving them. Punishing them without excruciating them is indeed a difficult ropewalk, but a necessary one.

I try to shy away from saying of them they are “cretins” or “worthless” not just for ableist reason, but also because it lead to underestimate them. They are not the (ableist) cliche of the village idiot ; they are full supporters of an authoritarian coup.

Surplus to Requirements
Surplus to Requirements
14 days ago

More on police and military complicity in the coup attempt:

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2021/01/11/pers-j11.html

Pie
Pie
14 days ago

@Naglfar

Now I’m curious, since Parler requires social security numbers for verification, if those will released.

If that stuff was retrieved, it was by a separate group using other tools.

According to the author of this piece of work, https://nitter.snopyta.org/donk_enby/status/1348666166978424832

only things that were available publicly via the web were archived. i don’t have you e-mail address, phone or credit card number. unless you posted it yourself on parler.

Given the shockingly bad opsec of everyone involved, and the fact that parler didn’t bother stripping the exif metadata from uploaded images (which includes, but is not limited to, gps co-ordinates where the image was taken) it’ll probably be trivial to establish where all the users live and probably work, what they look like and who their friends and family are.

Sheila Crosby
Sheila Crosby
14 days ago

Thank you so much for telling me abuot Parler getting mined. It’s cheered me up.

Surplus to Requirements
Surplus to Requirements
14 days ago

[OT] Is some mobile advertising company trying to revive the old idea of subliminal messaging again? I keep seeing very quick flashes at the start of (some) mobile ads with black text on white at the top of the screen, only for a frame or two of the video. Way too quick to read, but I get an impression of a word and it’s something like “ironsource” as all one word.

The affected ads themselves are for disparate products, usually games. I don’t think they’re all from one manufacturer, which is what makes it particularly weird. Either there’s multiple businesses trying something similar all at once, or the would-be subliminal messaging is being inserted at the level of the ad broker (who would be Google in this case, as this is happening on an Android device) rather than the individual advertisers.

The idea that Google might be attempting some sort of subliminal messaging campaign is … disturbing. Even though I’m pretty sure the idea that such a thing could be used to hijack and control people against their will is hogwash. Again, brains are unlikely to have uniform or widespread susceptibility to any remote hack (as opposed to ones requiring direct physical access to the “hardware”) as a result of prehistoric predator/prey arms races.

Critical Dragon1177
Critical Dragon1177
14 days ago

Congratulations Nazis! Once again, you show the world what sick, depraved people you actually are. Andrew Anglin, I hope you understand that you are not above the law, and if your attempt to enact your depraved fantasies, there will be consequences!

Citerior Motive
Citerior Motive
14 days ago

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Surplus to Requirements
Surplus to Requirements
14 days ago

Eh?

Surplus to Requirements
Surplus to Requirements
14 days ago

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/01/conservatism-reaches-dead-end/617629/

Questions remain about the Capitol insurrection. Some of the attackers seemed much better drilled and organized than others. Who were they? Some stole computers and other materials from the offices they invaded. Did they grab randomly or with purpose?

An interesting thought: that the terrorist attack might have been cover for a heist, presumably of sensitive documents.

Now where have we seen that plot before?

And what will happen with the stolen documents now, or in the near future?

Naglfar
Naglfar
14 days ago

O/T: The Department of Defense has stated that the troops deployed to guard Biden’s inauguration will be background checked to make sure they aren’t sympathetic to white nationalist groups. I can only hope that the checking is thorough enough to weed out any.

@Surplus
If I had to guess, I’d imagine they just took things randomly. They probably didn’t know what to steal of value and were just trying to cause trouble.

Acid Kritana
14 days ago

I hope that nothing bad of the sort will happen to these two girls. I have no idea what they were “snitching” on their family about, but it certainly wasn’t murder or child rape or something, so they do NOT deserve to die.

And thank you, Futrelle, for not blaming the Men’s Rights community on these lunatics! It’s a welcome change, for once.

And so for that, I commend you.

Mabret the Virile Maiden
Mabret the Virile Maiden
14 days ago

Ooh, an old-school MRA troll! For your information, they were “snitching” on their parents for participating in a fascist putsch.

Acid Kritana
14 days ago

@Mabret the Virile Maiden

Ooh, an old-school MRA troll! For your information, they were “snitching” on their parents for participating in a fascist putsch.

Ah yes, because the entire existence of MRAs is to be trolls. Mm-hmm. /s

Anyway, I think it’s good that the kids were reporting the “fascist putsch.” I absolutely hate fascism. I’ve certainly been silenced, or there was at least an attempt by fascists, to silence me before, whether they be republican, democrat, independent, or other!

Whether they don’t like my Men’s Rights Activism, my LGBT activism, or just don’t like me being an atheist. Who knows? It could be all three!

numerobis
numerobis
14 days ago

So if they’d been snitching about murder or rape they *would* deserve to die? Yikes.

Re the coup attempt: it appears to be modelled after a common way to run a coup. Under cover of a public uprising (whether for you or against you), send in the troops to restore order … and install a military dictatorship.

It’s a risky move because the troops show up and then need to decide what side to be on; it might not be the side of the putschists. And indeed Trump doesn’t have the support amongst the troops (and particularly amongst the officer ranks).

He tried the tactic prematurely in the summer, calling in the army to crack heads on BLM protests in DC. The day the troops refused to go into the city and instead went back to their barracks was when I felt reassured a coup was unlikely to succeed. Given another couple years he probably could have replaced enough of the leadership — but he only had a few months.

calmdown
calmdown
14 days ago

Can you link to this artist please? It’s awesome!
Qanon the Breitbartarian

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Surplus to Requirements
Surplus to Requirements
14 days ago

Some guy drops f-bombs on the putschists like a whole squadron of bombers leveling 1945 Berlin:

https://twitter.com/Lesdoggg/status/1348360474178449408?s=20

Naglfar
Naglfar
14 days ago

@Surplus
That’s Corey “Buttercream Dream” Forrester. He’s a comedian who plays off of stereotypes about southerners.