By David Futrelle
Reddit’s contingent of Men Going Their Own Way are more than a little bit obsessed with the marriage of Prince Harry and Meghan Markle, seeing Markle as a devious manipulator trying to transform her husband into a spineless woman-worshipping simp willing to give up many of his royal privileges for the sake of his wife
Now a MGTOW Redditor called auramirror has a new theory: what if Harry’s wife-pleasing simpery weren’t just a side effect of being married to Meghan but the whole point of the marriage in the first place? What if the entire marriage is part of a plot to turn men in the west into simps? What if Harry isn’t a simp at all but rather a pawn in some vast conspiracy?
In a post to the subreddit last month, auramirror shares his dark speculations about the royal couple:
I understand why everyone here thinks Mr. Harry Markle is a simp who went with Megan and gave up his princehood and his rifles because he’s a blue pilled beta.
But that is wrong.
This is the royal fucking family we are talking about. The elite of the elite. The people who run this world on the surface, connected to the people who pull the world’s strings from the shadows.
So what are these shadowy people (or perhaps evil space lizards) up to?
The media’s constant promotion of “look at all the amazing things this man has done for this woman!” is a form of propaganda. It is norm-setting. It tells men that the standard should be to change yourself and give up everything you have for a woman. It tells women that they are entitled to men changing for them, because “even a commoner can marry a prince.”
This is all intentional. Calculated. Manipulated.
What does this mean to poor, poor Harry, forced into a marriage with an attractive, accomplished woman he seems to love?
Harry is simply a chess piece in the elites’ grand agenda to hand power over to women. This is setting a standard for future generations that continues to fuel the fire in the war between the sexes.
All media is propaganda. Do not believe the constant stream of brainwashing you hear in the news. Harry is being used as a pawn in a game that is larger than you could even begin to imagine, and if he dares walk off the chessboard he could lose his life. …
Be grateful you are not one of the gears in the propaganda machine. Go your own way, and be free.
Apparently the thing these guys are going their own way from is reality.
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If you wanted to argue the Royal Family was a plot to hand over power to women, then couldn’t you find better example than Meghan.
Clue: Check out a stamp or bank note.
I mean I should not be shocked by the intense misogyny and double standards but I am.
It is mind boggling to me the amount of people who think there is something wrong with Harry from stepping back from his vocation and following Megan to the USA.
Yet it is somehow fine and proper than Markle abandon her career, voice, friends and everything she holds dear to follow Harry the the U.K.
And leaving aside it never occurs to them that this was Harry’s choice and he specifically chose a wife who would support him in stepping back from monarchy. His contempt for the media is an open secret.
This seems to be a bit of a misery coping strategy: misogynists are miserable, so they’re jealous that Harry and Meghan seem happy, so they try to rationalize away the happiness by saying it’s some sort of conspiracy.
@Alan Robertshaw
I’d guess they don’t live in the U.K. and don’t know much about history, so that probably didn’t occur to them. Plus, why hate a woman who’s been dead for centuries when you can hate one who is alive?
@Steph Tohill
Although I don’t really follow the news about the British royal family much, AFAICT Harry and Meghan are much happier avoiding the traditional royal family practices anyway. I don’t blame them, the media circus looks very unpleasant.
There’s a vast, worldwide conspiracy to hand power over to women?
Wow, that is one subtle vast worldwide conspiracy.
@Naglfar
“ Plus, why hate a woman who’s been dead for centuries when you can hate one who is alive?”
I think he was referring to the current monarch – who is a woman.
The alt right copyeditor must have been sleeping on the job again. Auramirror forgot the triple parentheses around the word “people” in “the people who pull the world’s strings from the shadows” and it didn’t get corrected before the post went live. Without them, he fails to tick all the boxes on the bigotry and conspiracy bingo cards and will forever be known as an also-ran. :/
@IseultTheIdle, I know right? Shouldn’t all women be in on this, though? Did I miss a memo?!
Hey; Bookworm’s back! Hope you’re keeping safe and well.
I suspect that auramirror is probably an American, and hence way overestimates the power the British Royals actually have. As do others. A commenter over on Raw Story the other day figured that Prince Andrew would order MI6 to murder Ghislaine Maxwell. Of course the real response of the head of MI6, or whoever Andrew would have asked, would probably have been “Piss off!”
@IseultTheIdle
Can the conspiracy move a bit faster? I get that we’re trying to be quiet about it, but maybe it could do a bit more.
@Steph Tohill
Oh. I thought he was referring to Elizabeth I, who is dead and was known for never marrying. Sorry about the confusion. I still think Elizabeth II might be spared some of the hate because she’s white, though.
O/T: Twitter just banned Stefan Molyneux. Maybe they’re finally starting to take stochastic terrorism seriously.
I know the beauty of conspiracy theories is that they don’t have to make sense, but I find it baffling that these dudes think that “handing over power to women” is a major concern for global elites. For what gain?
Comversely, even as a feminist, I don’t think keeping power in the hands of men is an intentional goal of the powerful. They simply want to increase profits and maintain economic hegemony however possible. Any identity-based suffering that goes with that is incidental.
It’s also weird that they’ve latched onto this particular example. I don’t know a lot about the British monarchy, so someone correct me if I’m wrong — but how much has the prince really lost? Not only does king or queen not actually run the country, he’s not in line for the throne anyway. Seems like his life just consisted of living in secluded wealth and being obligated to do public events and the like. Personally I would much rather live a life away from all that with a family I presumably love. Though I guess that sentiment is pretty foreign to anyone involved in MGTOW.
@tim gueguen
Oh, I doubt they’d be that classless. Or expend that much energy. Probably just a single raised eyebrow. And if that didn’t work, a threat to tell his mummy.
What? So excited!
Six thousand (estimated) years of patriarchy coming to an end? And the elites (whoever they are) are behind this? This couldn’t be better news.
Looking forward to more details: who (exactly) and what (exactly). Also, when, where, why, and how.
Sigh. I suppose that there’s a tiny amount of comfort to be had from the fact that “simp” doesn’t have the racially-tinged baggage of “cuck”, though one of the possible etymologies of the word is apparently “sissy+pimp”, which is not any better.
(It could also be a shortening of “simpleton”, which is somewhat more neutral. Though, in my mind, the most fitting root word would be “simper”, but let’s face it, it’s far too old-fashioned to be a serious contender.)
Glances at username
I guess they gave you a really remote posting, huh? ?
@Perry
He is in line, just far enough down that it’s unlikely to matter. He’s sixth behind Charles, William and William’s three kids.
@Bookworm in Hijab
Hey, you’re here! I wondered if something had happened. Nice to see you again. 🙂
@Alan : mine have Marianne on it. Clearly the work of the Royal Family !
@Ariblester
Yeah, you’d think they’d drop me a line now and then. No such luck. Instead, I have to rely on news of the coming overthrow of the patriarchy from a MGTOW.
And YOU COULD BE NEXT. It is too late the simpening has already begun.
Dun dun dun
Says the guy posting on social media.
Soon, relationships of all combinations and genders may be based on partnership on equal footing! The horror! **smelling salts**
Connected… by strings? So, Harry and Meghan are puppets, but also chess pieces. Pawns, who run the world.
The reality is that Harry and Meghan are just mid-list celebrities, who, if they get their way, will disappear from the news and be largely forgotten before long. They don’t run shit.
Welcome back, Bookworm! Hope all is well with you.
I agree with Perry – if Harry’s punishment is being forced to live a quiet life in luxury with his family, punish ME.
@Perry
The majority of the very powerful and wealthy are men, and they want to maintain power, so it would seem they do have an interest in maintaining power for men over women. Historically patriarch and capitalism have been closely intertwined, so it would seem that the wealthy would want to keep that order as it is.
@Ariblester
That’s the etymology I’ve heard the most, not sure if it’s true but I’ve seen it around.
@Moggie
This is a strange chess variant. No chess game I’ve played used strings on the pieces.
Off topic but I need to rant :
RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH I HATE THE ASSHOLES THAT PUT TEN TIME MORE EFFORTS IN DENYING RACISM AND DOUBTING ALARM CALLERS THAN TRYING TO FIX ANY PROBLEMS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The problem here is that we were talking of a D&D designer who quited because of racism.
One guy litteraly said “I don’t think it’s racism, just a toxic workplace”, even tho the guy pointed his skin color in his declaration.
Another said “we shouldn’t conclude anything before all lawsuits are settled”, ignoring in a convenient for him way that most racism is unwieldy to put into lawsuits and that most advance have been made out of lawsuits.
A third one said “I doubt everyone until I see proof”, ignoring that it’s the third employe of the same company who report problem and that one of his superior vouched for him and that THE GUY HAVE NO REALISTIC REASON TO LIE ANYWAY.
The most annoying part is that they use the same arguments as the openly racist part of my family, without seeing any problems.
I know, I know. I am probably not perfect either, but I wish I had the impression people tried to work on the problem.