By David Futrelle
Predicting the future is always a perilous venture, never more so than when the predictor in question has only the most tenuous grasp of the present. Consider the case of an incel called Bjrgaminggod, who believes that we today live in a world in which a huge percentage of men are involuntarily celibate like him — in part because so many women prefer to have sex with their dogs.
As he put it in a recent post on the Incels.co forums,
Only the Top 20 percent of men actually are romantically successful with women leaving the bottom 80 percent of men to rot. Some of these men in the bottom 80 will make it but they will be betabuxxing a used whore whose pussy looks like a cheap 2 dollar steak.
Other women, partially lesbian and bisexual women will be competing for women too, most women are actually in case bisexual instead of being 100 percent straight, so if a sub 8 [man] ascends [ie has sex with a woman] she will probably get stolen by a dyke next week
And lastly, mans best friend is in a league of their own, mans best friend is now women’s best lover.
So what happens when a man this delusional about the present tries his hand at predicting the future, as Bjrgaminggod did in that same Incels.co post late last Saturday night? You get what may be the strangest dystopian fiction the world has yet seen. Here are some of his predictions for the nightmare world of the 2030s:
•Mandatory Penis inspections for all sub 8 men
•Single men needing a permit to go to restaurants, pubs, bars, and movie theaters (ugly men needing a license to step outside besides wageslaving to the government)
•bestiality Is now legal
•an epidemic of women dying (deaths were either caused by them fighting over canines at your local pet smart or pathogens jumping species meaning new diseases are discovered .. )
•prohibitions on male sex toys, to feminists, the toy has to provide its consent. …
•You can now be considered a domestic abuser if you refuse to let your wife or gf get fucked by other guys while you watch …
•The working class of men are banned from leaving the country because they will attempt to escape to the Middle East
•High IQ low value Men from All [over] the globe (Manly Asian) hiding underground developing Sex robots, VR tech and artificial wombs, trying to set their fellow men free, if they are found by the FF, (The modern day SS) They are to be publicly executed to set an example …
•male depression and suicide sky rockets to an all time high, it is now a daily thing to see atleast a pile of bodies outside dead from blunt force trauma wherever you go
•The government partially remedies this issue by banning all firearms to men
•The government then starts mass manufacturing “antidepressants” and then begins inserting it in the meat industry directly, then they begin mixing it with the local water supplies. You now are literally a zombie who’s now to tired to take your own life and too tired to rebel against your oppressors. You have nothing to do except work the rest of your life like a good little boy
Yeah, that’s not how antidepressants work. That’s not how any of this works.
I would offer commentary on his other predictions, but I still can’t get past the first one — the penis inspections. What are the penises being inspected for? To make sure they’ve been washed sometime in the last month? To check to see if they suffer from chafing due to too much masturbation? To see if men are secretly smuggling contraband in their foreskins?
Unless someone can tell me I’m not sure I can get on board with any of these proposals.
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OT, but I always giggle internally at references to “VR technology” or “VR porn” because, as a Finn, I grew up knowing “VR” as the name and logo of the Finnish national railway company (VR-yhtymä, derived from the former state railway agency Valtionrautatiet).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VR_Group
Just yesterday I saw this:
https://www.theguardian.com/travel/2020/may/05/helsinki-huge-vr-virtual-reality-gig-potential-virtual-tourism
It’s about the development of VR travel (you see what I did there!) and virtual public events, using my home city as an example. Some amusing snippets:
I can’t help but wonder if Bjrgaminggod would see this as a good thing if it was applied to women instead of men. At least here in Finland, women were not allowed to go into restaurans without being accompanied by men (IIRC as lat as the sixties?), apparently to combat prostitution. Because why on earth would a lone woman, let alone several women together, want to go to a restaurant, if not to sell sex?
@Lumipuna
It’s been some years now since I frequently travelled long-distance by train, but my memories from back then are still quite fresh. Makes me wonder what “VR porn” would be like. I’m guessing the action wouldn’t start at all, or would be abruptly halted halfway through, with a lot of false starts. If you’d be lucky, someone might occasionally tell you that they don’t know what the problem is, or that the crew are still looking for the lube, or it’s being brought in from another venue, or that the whole shoot will actually be transferred to said venue in half an hour, if then. Maybe they’d get leaves stuck on the cameras in autumn time?
I don’t know anything about trains, but apparently any little thing can stop them from moving.
They plan to go out to the nearest body pile and kill themselves by bashing their own heads in? That sounds like a terrible and difficult-to-do way to go.
@Oogly Boggles
I’m sorry to hear this. Are you seeing a therapist? If so, you might want to discuss these issues with that person, who might have some practical ideas about dealing with them. If not, you might want to start therapy if that’s possible. Can you see a therapist at your school? Best of luck with these challenges.
Sorry, no one’s going to want to see it.
@Lumipuna:
As someone who has pulled all-nighters to beat project deadlines, I hate to see this presented as a good thing. If you’re crunching to that degree, you’d better be doing something literally life-saving, otherwise you’re just abusing your staff.
@Simon:
It sounds considerate! Self-organising into body piles is just polite, like sorting your recycling. It means less work for the refuse collectors.
AFAIK this applied to places with alcohol license. Those were primarily drinking venues, as opposed to the cafeterias and diners where people went to eat food. Only few Finns at the time had the money and interest for fine dining, so actual fancy food restaurants (with alcohol license) were uncommon.
My mother thinks the ban on single women was based on law, though I suspect it was actually some administrative guideline or standard business policy, so as not to risk losing the precious alcohol license. In the mid 20th century (ie. shortly after the repeal of prohibition) drink-serving restaurants generally had to enforce a straight-laced appearance on their customers, lest they were seen as breeding alcoholism or social degeneracy. Aside from prostitution, it would have been morally suspect for a woman to visit a bar for the purpose of getting drunk or seeking hookups, as opposed to enjoying her husband’s or male friend’s company.
(While sex work is legal here, it’s illegal for venues to try to attract customers by actively facilitating sex trade. This has been recently an issue with some gay men’s clubs that provided private sex booths for their guests.)
@Kat
That’s why it’s mandatory. If people wanted to see that, they’d call them recreational penis inspections.
@Lumipuna
That’s interesting. I called them restaurants because if memory serves, you couldn’t serve alcohol without serving food, because of the strict views on drunkenness and such.
In a way I wish all the people going on about how well off women in Finland have always been would remember that many of these things are relatively recent. I remember my mother explaining something about this “lone women in restaurants” thing to me in my teens (when I’d been puzzled by something in a newspaper article or the like) and I actually asked if she was pulling my leg. I don’t know what I would have said if she’d told me that marital rape only became a crime in the 90’s. Fun stuff.
That would be prohibitively expensive and dangerous. Besides, tap water is already contaminated with trace amounts of pharmaceuticals.
What’s the alternative to working, though? Playing video games in the basement and being financially supported by parents?
I always get the feeling these guys think they’re genius inventors with towering intellects who are being held back by the need to “wageslave”. Making a living at an ordinary job is beneath them.
@Ohlmann
Like many incels beliefs, this appears to be the inverse of reality. In reality women are far more likely than men to own toys, and men are about twice as likely to engage in bestiality.
@Masse_mysteria
He almost certainly would, seeing as he is the same fellow who made supportive comments on a post about a similar concept a few years ago.
@Buttercup
Most libertarians appear to feel the same way, in that they think they should be the greatest people ever and that the only reason they don’t end up at the top of the social ladder is the current system.
Masse Mysteria:
Oh, snap.
My memory serves that, too. They were indeed called “restaurant” (ravintola), apparently in order to associate with fine dining restaurants where the upper class people drank their wine in a “sophisticated” manner over a fancy meal. I’ve been told that ordinary people (that is, mainly men) bought their cocktail or beer with a mandatory stale sandwich that was often left uneaten and sometimes circulated for the next order/customer.
Diners are technically also restaurants, but people at the time took to calling them “bar” (baari), apparently to distinguish from the drinking establishments. Now, the meanings of ravintola and baari have again largely flipped over.
Yeah, that’s truly creepy.
1983 in Canada. Finland was only about 10 years behind Canada I guess?
That’s a brief reminder that for all the doom and gloom there really is real progress happening. It’s exhausting to fight for every little bit of it, and to need to keep it from regressing, but things are generally headed in the right direction in terms of freedom and equality.
Sure would be nice if the people opposed to freedom and equality would slack off though.
Great bleeding shit….
@ masse mysteria, lumipuna & numerobis
1991 here
https://www.bailii.org/uk/cases/UKHL/1991/12.html
Lotta places in the States had those kinda rules about unaccompanied women in bars etc. too.
Kinda OT-ish, but today I followed a link to a short story (SF genre) about the use of technology to control people, and the implications for domestic violence. Content note: Despite the futuristic setting, the author does a great job of portraying the helplessness you can feel when someone else is successfully controlling your life in abusive ways. At the risk of spoilers, the story also shows that getting help from other people can lead to you getting out of an abusive situation.
No paywall.
https://slate.com/technology/2018/03/domestic-violence-a-new-short-story-from-madeline-ashby.html
“Mandatory Penis inspections for all sub 8 men”
I swear there’s a porno out there with that literal idea. Here’s a hint to the Incel community, porn is not real, it is a performance/animation/image. Their views are all messed up and they need to explore the world (Once this virus is over with anyway!).
Even if their sizes were small, that doesn’t stop men (Myself included) from being good sexual partners. Communicate, explore, and have fun with dating and intercourse! Even if it gets silly or perhaps some emotional barriers are blasted apart, that is part of the experience of intimacy with another person who trusts you with their wellbeing.
The Incel community is a sad one.
@Temascos
This is also a good lesson for TERFs, as most of what they know about trans* people seems to be lifted from pornography as well (note all their talk of trans* women trying to “trick” transphobic straight men and lesbians into sleeping with them, both of which are common in porn).
That’s where the problem lies. Incels don’t like having fun if it means others are enjoying it as well, and they don’t want to communicate. And incels should never be trusted with anyone’s wellbeing.
Folks, folks, when he laments that feminists will mandate that male sex toys will require consent, he obviously means sex dolls.
@dashapants:
You know, they actually might be. I’ve heard that there’s at least one sex robot out there in development which requires you to “obtain consent” from it first. I put that in quotes because it can’t actually do anything on its own other than speak or make noises, so presumably if you ignored its consent it would just be unresponsive. That’s a pretty niche thing right now, though. I suspect that if straw feminists could dictate economic supply, they’d just ban sex robots altogether.
An interesting idea, but I wonder what the market for it would be.
Straw feminists definitely would ban sex robots, because they want men to be miserable and no other reason.
@PoM
Maybe a sort of sex surrogate therapy? It would depend how the process for obtaining consent works.
I do know that some manospherians have said they want sex robots to not give consent because they like the fantasy of raping women. I would hope that is not what this robot would be for.
Found it, if anyone’s curious: https://www.gizmodo.com.au/2018/06/creepy-doctor-makes-a-sex-robot-that-kinda-requires-consent/
https://thefreshtoast.com/culture/samantha-the-sex-robot-now-requires-consent-sort-of/
It’s not a doll, it’s and Action Figure!
@Battering Ram
Fellas, is it gay to have sex with a macho Sex Action Figure?