By David Futrelle
Yep, some NoFap dude did a NoFap version of Johnny Cash’s famous cover of Nine Inch Nails’ “Hurt,” with the lyrics changed to make a point about the evils of “cooming” while jerking off to porn. Just listen to this mess, if you can:
Every day we stray further from God’s light.
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@ SRLO – You’ve now got one data point. That isn’t enough to say that everyone can be like that, right?
No one needs to stop their period to be spiritual. Periods aren’t dirty. Periods aren’t ‘cleansing the womb’ or something. Periods just are.
Not to say that they can’t suck, and that some people don’t have super rough times on them.
But that doesn’t make them something that a spiritually aware person would want to stop.
THIS IS MISOGYNY.
Even if it came from a woman.
Maybe it wasn’t in *her* time, but we’re in our time now, communicating over the internet. In our time we understand that periods aren’t evil, which makes this example misogynistic. Cultural context, and all that.
Re: Western men have corrupted SR – This is more ‘no true scotsman’. You can wish things weren’t as they are, but they are. If you want to continue your practise, find another word. ‘Semen Retainers’, as a group, are jerks.
I’ll believe that people, as a whole, can refrain from blaming the ‘thing that hurt them’ when people stop telling a table that it’s the table’s fault they stubbed their toe, as an example.
@Rhuu
I just reported what Anandamayi Maa herself said..Make of it what you will..If you think what she said is misogyny..fair enough, I have no reason to oppose you..It’s an issue that has to be resolved among women themselves
But one small thing——the logic here is not that period is dirty…the logic is the same as that of SR…the precious energy that is lost through period has been stopped by her leading her to being even more spiritually powerful…so the idea here is that the period is “precious” just as semen is “precious” in SR context…Period is not seen dirty in yogic context as it is seen in Christian context …its just that her fertility power is inside her instead of being lost from her body every month
Deriding SR because of the SR subreddit would be the same fallacy as deriding Islam and 1.5 billion devout Muslims because of existence of ISIS
Islam is hundreds of years older than ISIS
SR is thousands of years older than SR subreddit
cheers
@SRLO
*cough*
“Woman centric blog” is not the same as “feminist blog.” See the “mommy centric” blogs, or the blogs for women in the Quiverfull movement, or the blogs for women in STEM or athletics or fiber crafts or whatever.
@Victorious Parasol
Well, those are probably better than Quiverfull blogs.
@SRLO : “logic” does not belong in a sentence where “precious energy that is lost”. Either you define energy, say in which way your made up definition is relevant, or that’s a bunch of senseless bullshit.
Also, one small thing : Islam have thousands of peaceful community. Semen retention have zero (0) such community. Equating them to all the existing, horribly misogynistic one make sense, especially when you seem to be horribly misogynistic.
@Ohlmann
“precious energy” as they define it….not according to the standard model of Physics…I said it previously that SR may or may not be compatible with the scientific materialist worldview and that’s why it’s a spiritual practice..much like Islam,Christianity,Buddhism,Taoism,Hinduism,Yoga,Tantra etc..
Umm How about the Buddhist Sangha? How about the Jain monks? There are many peaceful SR communities….(repeated voluntary ejaculation puts you under the danger of excommunication from such communities) …..
There have been no acts of violence till date emanating from the SR community
I would love to know where I have been “horribly misogynistic”…
cheers
When people have their periods, they aren’t losing any kind of energy. They’re shedding uterine lining that isn’t needed because there is no pregnancy to support. That’s all. It’s nothing mystical. There’s no spirtual energy in menstrual fluid that’s being lost.
You’re overcomplicating the human body here.
@weirwoodtreehugger:chief manatee
“loss of precious energy” according to such spiritual worldview and not according to the standard Scientific Materialist worldview…
I understand the difference, hope that clear things up
cheers,
@SRLO
Such groups may be peaceful, but they don’t call themselves “Semen Retainers” or define themselves solely based on that practice alone. It’s like the difference between being white and being a white nationalist.
@SRLO
So, like this:
@Naglfar
semen retention is the core of Sramana practices (Buddhism,Jainism,Aijivika)
They divide human beings on the basis of attachment to sexual desire and ejaculation.the number one kinship marker among these groups is strict adherence to celibacy…
You are honour bound to report to the Sangha if you have fantasized about women or have masturbated….If you have sexed with a woman, you are automatically excommunicated for life, with no possibility of reordaining till death
Division of human beings in Buddhism
Normies
Stream enterers
Once returners
Never returners
Fully Enlightned beings
@SRLO
And how many Buddhist monks are in the Semen Retention forums online?
@Naglfar
Well, yes. And it’s interesting to see how many interests overlap with fiber arts. We are legion, but we aren’t always crafting for the person you think we are.
@Naglfar
Quite a few…but you would have to really dig up to find them…There is one Chinese Buddhist monk I think who posts on the nofapforum (not the subreddit)..I think he goes by the name Soaring Eagle if I am not mistaken
I myself plan to ordain as a Buddhist Monk later in life if that counts..I am well versed with the Pali texts and try to follow the 8 precepts with the best of my ability along with OMAD (One Meal a Day)….with full monkhood I would have to follow 227 rules instead of the 8. or (10 if one wants to go another step higher)…It’s just that I have a lot of responsibilties to the women I have sworn allegiance to , to just drop everything and run to the mountains to meditate 14 hours a day, every day
Dr. Strangelove is a brilliant and that meme is something SR practitioners get a lot..Sellers is a versatile actor…WashingtonCitypaper website has a scientific article which lists all the acientific papers that tried to quanitfy the amount of energy generated both by the male and female orgasm…I think the title reads “How Much Energy Does an Orgasm Generate?” by Cecil Adams
cheers,
@SRLO
But I thought you said it couldn’t be quantified with physics. How does this work then?
And I might note, energy from an orgasm wouldn’t be useful without having an orgasm. Coal is just a rock if you can’t ignite it.
Yeah, you keep saying things like this and it’s pretty obviously just a fancy way of saying that you think you should be able to make assertions without having the burden of backing them up.
I mean, if you want to retain your semen, you do you. It’s your body and your business. You don’t actually need to keep making all these BS assertions to justify it.
@SRLO
according to us, the amount of energy generated by the orgasm of a sex wastrel man (say twice a day) would be very little compared to the energy generated by the orgasm of a man who has not had an orgasm for say 500 days..and in the latter case the destruction in the Outer World Dream would also be that much more severe ….
there might also be variance in the amount of energy generated according to height,weight,genetics,musculature, member size, scrotum volume, accesory gland size, smooth muscle strength etc…
cheers,
This all reminds me of William Reich.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilhelm_Reich
(Insert obligatory Cloudbusting reference)
@SRLO
What is the Outer World Dream? I haven’t heard of it before.
@Alan Robertshaw
I’ve actually been to Wilhelm Reich’s house in Maine, it’s now a museum. This does sound reminiscent of his theories.
@Alan Robertshaw
Astute observation….He did try to measure the electric potential of the erogenous zones of the body under various moods
@weirwoodtreehugger: chef manatee
I guess the “BS assertions” comes with the practice..LoLz
@Naglfar
It’s a fringe Non-dualistic view that whatever happens out in the world is a reflection of your inner Consciousness…if your inner Consciousness is disturbed , a lot of bad things will happen to you or you will see much more bad incidents out in the world etc..
cheers,
I just want to say again for anyone reading this that you are not lessened in any way by menstruating. You’re not losing anything. It is completely unrelated to your “energy” or your spirituality. Periods are not a punishment. They’re just a thing that some bodies do.
Edit: Same goes for ejaculating (in appropriate contexts).
@Viscaria
That’s a perfectly acceptable viewpoint …I personally don’t think periods or orgasms hurt women …..But in some men orgasm and ejaculation tends to bring about an utterly devastating effect …even erection leaves me drained emotionally..so women have the luxury of being sexually active but men don’t
“spiritual worldview” don’t allow people to take concepts out of their asses and expect to be taken seriously. So, saying “according to thoses spiritual worldview” pretty much mean “I don’t have any idea of what I am talking about and can’t be arsed to even fake an actual reason”
If you can’t define or explain that “loss of energy”, it probably don’t exist.
@Ohlmann
May be we can still oppose each other even without resorting to unparliamentary language?
Loss of Energy would be exhaustion, dejection, gloomy mood after the act or orgasm ……that’s the case with a huge number of men when it comes to erection, orgasm and ejaculation
Hope that clear things up,
cheers,