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Western incels furious they’re being denied a hologram waifu in a jar

No “Japanese jailbait holo gitls” for you, incels, unless you speak their language

By David Futrelle

Several years ago, I wrote about a holographic “virtual companion” that seemed designed to fulfill the romantic fetishes of every anime-obsessed incel. “Azuma,” as she was known, was basically a tiny, chatty waifu encased in a jar she could never escape from — seemingly a Black Mirror episode waiting to happen.

Unfortunately, at least for Western weebs, the tiny kidnapped princess only spoke Japanese.

Now, the company behind Azuma has announced an English language version of the device is on the way. But it’s not going to look much like the original. The holographic image has been replaced by a 2D version on a tablet. And the tiny waifu herself has been swapped out for more “realistic”-looking characters, including a gym bro and a stern-looking adult woman. The makers hope to sell the device not to lonely men with anime fetishes but to companies looking for “virtual concierges” and greeters to help customers check in on cruise ships and at gyms.

The world’s creepiest dudes are, not surprisingly, outraged by this development. Billy D., the histrionic cultural critic who runs the One Angry Gamer site, shouts his disappointment to the heavens, lamenting that the new version of the device has replaced a perfectly good “anime waifu” with

a bossy looking feminist in a purple pantsuit, and a douche bag personal training assistant who looks like he injected steroids into his jowls. …

[T]here’s zero sex appeal or attractive qualities to the Westernized models they are using … Instead of being comforting and welcoming, they have a cold, stand-offish design for the female, making her appear like a typical Left-wing feminist that no one wants to talk to; follows Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on social media; and spends all of her free time with her cats while complaining about President Donald Trump on Twitter. She’s also probably a lesbian.

In short, the design for the female assistant in the Western version of Gatebox is nothing short of a cancer-inducing wench.

I don’t know; she sounds kind of cool to me.

On the Incels.co forums, meanwhile, the regulars are if anything even angrier.

“Why can’t they realize we want to escape reality with cute anime grills and not std-ridden sjw banshees?” asked one commenter. “Why do companies bend the knees to shrill, shrieking feminists on Twitter?”

Another replied:

Whoever made this decision should commit sewerside in roblox

JFL THE BITCH LOOKS LIKE ANITA SARKEESEAN 

Well, vaguely, I guess.

“Women shouldn’t wear pants,” still another commenter added.

But one incel shared his idea for a possible workaround: Just learn Japanese!

“Jesus fucking christ,” he wrote.

I’m learning Japanese and Kanji right now just to play porn games and because I dont have a life, but I guess another good reason for it is so I can import Japanese [jailbait] holo girls instead of getting ugly feminist western bitch versions.

Lovely.

If you want to see what non-Japanese-speaking incels will be missing, here’s the creepy, cringey promo for the Japanese model.

And if you want to see what the Westernized version of the device will look like, check out this report from Endgadget.

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Naglfar
Naglfar
8 months ago

a typical Left-wing feminist that no one wants to talk to; follows Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on social media; and spends all of her free time with her cats while complaining about President Donald Trump on Twitter. She’s also probably a lesbian.

How much do these cost again? This sounds like something I need in my home much more than a random anime lady.

THE BITCH LOOKS LIKE ANITA SARKEESEAN

Well, not really, but when you’re that obsessed with people you hated five years ago and never really got over and you hate all women, I guess every woman looks like her to you.

we want to escape reality with cute anime grills

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Like this?

Victorious Parasol
8 months ago

I’d almost forgotten about that waifu in a jar.

Sadly, I think the incels won’t be happy until they can customize the waifu’s skin, eye, and hair color. Plus breast size. Plus voice timbre. Plus any number of things, because they’re more invested in the chase than in the goal.

Rahu
Rahu
8 months ago

Completely OT, but I noticed it in another thread and have some good info that might help some people out.

There was a legitimate complaint about hospitals refusing to release someone unless they are being picked up at the hospital by a friend or relative. (It’s for insurance purposes, so the hospital can say it wasn’t their fault when you collapse on the way home.)

There’s a couple of workarounds for those of us orphans with friends who have jobs and things like that:

1) comparatively more expensive – there are nursing services where you can hire a nurse for a minimum time period (e.g. four hours) and the nurse will meet you at the hospital and accompany you home

2) comparatively cheaper – some hospitals will accept a taxi in lieu of a friend/relative if the taxi is actually ordered online or via phone and not hailed in the street. (Lyft and Uber work well here.) Not all hospitals will do this, but if the cost of a Lyft home isn’t too bad, quite often that will work for the hospital’s rules.

CerulianBivalveIntentionalCommunity
CerulianBivalveIntentionalCommunity
8 months ago

The question is, can you get one with those two Mothra ladies? I might actually buy that.

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

follows Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on social media; and spends all of her free time with her cats while complaining about President Donald Trump on Twitter.

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Mapsco
Mapsco
8 months ago

I have rarely felt sorrier for anyone than I have this poor, probably well-adjusted actor who had to pretend that making dinner for his hologram was totally normal and healthy.

TheWreckoning
TheWreckoning
8 months ago

I thought creating lesbian head canons for fictional characters was something only us progressives and LGBT people did? Oneangrygamer’s actually come up with a detailed backstory for the virtual female concierge, maybe his next article will be posted on AO3 as slashfiction!

Tessa
Tessa
8 months ago

Maybe it’s because I’m, indeed, a lesbian, but if anything, the western female avatar looks *more* attractive than the anime girl.

Bina
8 months ago

Instead of being comforting and welcoming, they have a cold, stand-offish design for the female, making her appear like a typical Left-wing feminist that no one wants to talk to; follows Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on social media; and spends all of her free time with her cats while complaining about President Donald Trump on Twitter. She’s also probably a lesbian.

I fail to see what’s comforting and welcoming about an unreal person-in-a-jar, but that’s just li’l ol’ flesh-and-blood me who doesn’t masturbate to cartoons, and who doesn’t assume a guy is gay just because he doesn’t reciprocate my interest.

And, for the thousandth time: THIS IS WHY YOU’RE AN INCEL, DUDE.

NautaliaC
NautaliaC
8 months ago

With all of the free porn online, available resources to learn how to write/create art/3D model, what have you, this is the hill they die on? I mean, there are a lot of people who are simply fans of media whatever it may be, anime, film, literature, video games. This obsession is synonymous with entitlement and it kind of sucks having to constantly edge away from people who share hobbies with you who act like this to any degree.

The whining for this particular bottled woman is just a collective “But, mooom! I want this one!”

Kevin
Kevin
8 months ago

Hmm,

Is there potential for a conversational language learning practice tool here, especially for languages such as Japanese, German, or others I don’t know about, which I understand have/may have very complicated grammar?

LaMaria
LaMaria
8 months ago

@ Kevin: Maybe? A very expensive one though. And if it´s programmed to be endlessly obliging, which I will blindly assume this girl is, you´ll be missing out on all the cultural subtext you´d get if you posted a notice offering your skills in (native language) in exchange for practicing (desired language). But I guess that only works in larger cities.

Could we sponsor someone to develop an English version of this thing with behavioral correction cues built-in? Positive reinforcement for positive behavior (like… washing your backside, to name something at random) and quasi-neglect for cruel or anti-social stuff? Coupled with things that´d help incels realize their exteriors aren´t as hopeless as they think? I may be a hopeless optimist but I want to believe almost everyone is redeemable.

Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
8 months ago

To me, the concept of a lonely adult spending time with a make-believe friend has an offbeat charm.

What lacks charm is the concept of this lonely adult insisting on total control over this make-believe friend.

Tyko
Tyko
8 months ago

Anyone else sort of reminded of the film, “Her”?

Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
8 months ago

@Rahu
Thanks for that valuable info.

Moggie
Moggie
8 months ago

I can’t help wondering how vulnerable that waifu is to hacking. I mean, chances are that box needs an Internet connection, for updates, cloud-based analysis of speech commands etc. If someone finds a way to load hacked firmware which changes the character’s behaviour or appearance… well, it could be a whole new frontier for ransomware.

Naglfar
Naglfar
8 months ago

@Tessa

the western female avatar looks *more* attractive than the anime girl.

Agreed. Maybe it’s just because I don’t watch anime, but I find the more realistic human model to be better looking.

@Tyko

Anyone else sort of reminded of the film, “Her”?

I hadn’t thought of that, but now that you mention it I totally see the connection. Though IIRC in the movie the AI didn’t have a hologram body, just a voice.

IronCthulhu
IronCthulhu
8 months ago

Not worth the money. Sure there’s a little bit of troll value to it. She calls you “master” which raised the hairs on some feminist backs, but meh. I wouldn’t part with $1500 over it.

I’ll wait until hololens is reduced down to a set of contact lenses & I can install an app that makes the whole world into a Gatebox. I’ll customize her to look like whoever the current feminist du jour is, minus the aposematism. And make her personality something like Joi from Blade Runner.

Trolling is a art.

@LaMaria

Could we sponsor someone to develop an English version of this thing with behavioral correction cues built-in? Positive reinforcement for positive behavior (like… washing your backside, to name something at random) and quasi-neglect for cruel or anti-social stuff? Coupled with things that´d help incels realize their exteriors aren´t as hopeless as they think? I may be a hopeless optimist but I want to believe almost everyone is redeemable.

Lots of potential in that. Not just as a therapeutic tool but also as an avenue for content creation, which would make it self-sustaining.

Some people make ASMR videos designed for therapeutic purposes. If they’ll pour hours & hours of creative effort into that, they’d do the same for creating conversational content for an AI. The Rent-a-sisters in Japan might do something like this as a way of helping out hikikomori men.

Algorithms could further customize user generated content to specific situations. They would use the content creators’ personality as a general guide but also be able to improvise new dialog by inferring what the content creator would probably say. That approach would be way more efficient than constructing an artificial personality from the top down.

A. Noyd
A. Noyd
8 months ago

Naglfar says:

Maybe it’s just because I don’t watch anime, but I find the more realistic human model to be better looking.

The anime girl has an excessively insipid and simpering design even for an anime character. It’s a very particular aesthetic meant to appeal to women-hating otaku men.

Allandrel
Allandrel
8 months ago

This seems an appropriate thread to bring up a disturbing computer game that my nephew brought to my attention the other day: Haydee.

It’s a third-person puzzle platformer, where the player controls a robot that is a super-creepy “gynoid” with exaggerated breasts and buttocks, wearing five-inch heels (for platforming!) and a “butt floss” outfit. That’s not the creepiest aspect of the character design: it is literally faceless. The character is essentially just tits and ass for the player to ogle.

And the camera damn well wants you to ogle. You are frequently required to crawl through vents, where the robot’s ass fills a third of the screen. The “pulling itself up onto a ledge” animation is basically “ass ass ass.”

And OF COURSE the developer has opened it up for all the character mods you could want, which are exactly a creepy as you expect.

My nephew pointed out a major design flaw, given the developer’s obvious intentions: The controls are set up to require two hands.

Buttercup Q. Skullpants
Buttercup Q. Skullpants
8 months ago

and spends all of her free time with her cats

And this is somehow more sneer-worthy than spending all of your free time with a hologram in a jar because….?

At least cat love is earned, not pre-programmed.

IronCthulhu
IronCthulhu
8 months ago

@A. Noyd

It’s a very particular aesthetic meant to appeal to women-hating otaku men.

It’s an over-the-top exaggerated femininity, like refined sugar. Addictive because it doesn’t exist in nature. I’m sure there’s an equivilant for women.

Demonhype
8 months ago

@NautaliaC

“With all of the free porn online, available resources to learn how to write/create art/3D model, what have you, this is the hill they die on?”

I have degrees in this, and my first thought on this tech is “will I be able to create my own and upload them into the system, cuz that would be so awesome!”. I’m not sure if that makes me terrible or not, but the idea of being able to create a motion maquette of my characters (yes, including some of my cuter guys, I make the shame face now 😓, but I could also make super cute fun characters for my little nieces so redemption?) sounds amazing. One of my favorite things in Rock band and Guitar Hero was character customization and seeing how many of my characters I could re-create.

Demonhype
8 months ago

@IronCthulhu

Omg, that is hilarious! That is, the idea that there are dudes sneering at how this is the beginning of the end for women and how women can be replaced so easy, as if the opposite could never happen, there could *never* be a viable market for women to have a cute anime (or otherwise) boyfriend in a jar…while the opposite has already been happening, between this kind of app and the myriad of power tools for her pleasure. Hoo boy, are they in for a surprise! I totally predict an anime David Bowie as Jareth would be a top seller!

Buttercup Q. Skullpants
Buttercup Q. Skullpants
8 months ago

@IronCthulu:

Not worth the money. Sure there’s a little bit of troll value to it. She calls you “master” which raised the hairs on some feminist backs,

That’s your objection, that it’s too expensive?

Out of curiosity, how much money would you pay to stick it to the feminists?

@LaMaria:

Could we sponsor someone to develop an English version of this thing with behavioral correction cues built-in? Positive reinforcement for positive behavior (like… washing your backside, to name something at random) and quasi-neglect for cruel or anti-social stuff?

It’d be nice if the makers of Siri and Alexa could program them to shut down verbal abuse instead of saying “I’d blush if I could” or “I don’t know how to respond to that.” Better yet, make digital assistants gender neutral.

Naglfar
Naglfar
8 months ago

@IronCthulhu
At least the anime men for the most part look like real world men in terms of proportions. It wouldn’t be that hard for me to find men in the real world that look like it. The women, on the other hand, are sexually exaggerated to the point that few real women look like that. There are likely few women who have giant anime eyes and those impossible proportions.

@Demonhype

I totally predict an anime David Bowie as Jareth would be a top seller!

That actually sounds better than either of the holograms shown so long as it talks like David.

@BQS

Out of curiosity, how much money would you pay to stick it to the feminists?

Idk how much these men will pay, but I know conservative politicians will pay the entire planet and their own liberties to own the libs.

Vicki
Vicki
8 months ago

I’d be happy if I could have a holographic Henry Cavill in a jar like that. 😉

SadOldGuy
SadOldGuy
8 months ago

Jim Sterling played that Haydee game back in September 2016; that is one ugly game in all senses of the word.

IronCthulhu
IronCthulhu
8 months ago

@Demonhype

there could *never* be a viable market for women to have a cute anime (or otherwise) boyfriend in a jar…

I already said there’s an equivalent for women. The consensus among redpillers is that women have raised their standards to ridiculous levels due to their access to endless amounts of male validation & attention for very little effort. That genie isn’t going back in the bottle, but one can move forward. That’s why we see technologies such as this as a pendulum swing in our favor. A re-balancing.

Maybe it won’t cause the “existential shock” that Paul Elam predicted but I still like it when I see feminists make a big deal out of it. Meghan Murphy & Kathleen Richardson have been biting their nails over it & that makes me laugh sometimes.

@Buttercup Q. Skullpants

Out of curiosity, how much money would you pay to stick it to the feminists?

Trolling is like the Tao; infinite and free.

Better yet, make digital assistants gender neutral.

Why? Non-digital assistants aren’t gender neutral.

@Naglfar

At least the anime men for the most part look like real world men in terms of proportions.

So? Make your virtual boyfriend look like Super Saiyan for all I care.

The women, on the other hand, are sexually exaggerated to the point that few real women look like that. There are likely few women who have giant anime eyes and those impossible proportions.

That Gatebox girl has realistic body proportions IMO. Not that I’m against unrealistic proportions. Do you think they need to promote fat acceptance or something? As for the eyes, it’s anime!

A. Noyd
A. Noyd
8 months ago

For the record, Gatebox does encourage users to create and share their own characters and videos. However, making the character look genuinely 3D and interact with the user properly requires resources that most users don’t have, so the higher quality ones so far look to be official tie-ins.

Naglfar
Naglfar
8 months ago

@IronCthulhu
Well, since Meghan Murphy is best known for being a TERF/SWERF, I don’t think she represents what most feminists think.

Hint: just because a few people get angry about sex robots does not mean they will cause much change in the long run. And I’m pretty sure most men and women will still prefer flesh and blood company. At least I, as a woman, could never imagine having a relationship with a robot. And before you go on about men preferring robots to me, I prefer dating women anyway, and the kinds of men who see women as replaceable by robots aren’t the ones I would date anyway.

Cindy
Cindy
8 months ago

Weebs were a mistake.

NautaliaC
NautaliaC
8 months ago

@IronCthulu
I’m not certain if it’s the proportions of the female characters that’s an issue but the prescriptive nature insisted. People come in all shapes and sizes, obviously, but when there’s an expectation that women be sized a certain way for the desires of men that’s when the situation gets notably squicky, at least for me.

Anime is a media form with all sorts of genres, sub genres, and styles of varying quality. A character’s design should be informed by factors such as the setting and its history, the character’s personality, themes, etc. Characters specifically made to make the reader/viewer salivate and nothing else, this usually does, and should, catch a leery eye.

Tripoli
Tripoli
8 months ago

Ehhh… the moe character is modelled and rendered better, I think. But it’s more inherently annoying that it’s no longer holographic. I think that’s half the appeal of the device gone.

(Can we get mooooore cartoon animal/object digital assistants again, please.)

Naglfar
Naglfar
8 months ago

@NautaliaC

People come in all shapes and sizes, obviously, but when there’s an expectation that women be sized a certain way for the desires of men that’s when the situation gets notably squicky, at least for me.

I agree. It seems like the ideal cultivated in a lot of media is one that’s extremely difficult to achieve and even harmful, and it’s pretty much always for the male gaze.

NautaliaC
NautaliaC
8 months ago

and it’s pretty much always for the male gaze.

Right! Though, as a woman who loves other women I feel I need to add on a disclaimer that I don’t mind cute characters either. I just prefer that there’s some depth to them. And are reasonably designed. And are a part of a story I can sink my teeth into.

Victorious Parasol
8 months ago

Me: *reads thread, decides to check out a possibility*

Me: Alexa, you remind me of the babe.

Alexa: What babe? The babe with the power.

(I’m pretty sure internet law requires somebody to start that call-and-response every time the Goblin King is invoked.)

Rhuu - apparently an illiterati
Rhuu - apparently an illiterati
8 months ago

Ah yes, Super Saiyans, famously known as the best example of men being drawn to be attractive to women.

9___9

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Moggie
Moggie
8 months ago

@Cindy:

Weebs were a mistake.

Nani?!

Malitia
Malitia
8 months ago

Victorious Parasol wrote on
January 12, 2020 at 11:31 am:

Me: *reads thread, decides to check out a possibility*

Me: Alexa, you remind me of the babe.

Alexa: What babe? The babe with the power.

What power? The power of voodoo.

(I’m pretty sure internet law requires somebody to start that call-and-response every time the Goblin King is invoked.)

(Yes. It does.)

Naglfar
Naglfar
8 months ago

@NautaliaC

Though, as a woman who loves other women I feel I need to add on a disclaimer that I don’t mind cute characters either. I just prefer that there’s some depth to them. And are reasonably designed. And are a part of a story I can sink my teeth into.

Certainly. I feel the same way.

JDM
JDM
8 months ago

These guys must hate the ending to “Lars and the Real Girl”.

Buttercup Q. Skullpants
Buttercup Q. Skullpants
8 months ago

@IronCthulu:

Trolling is like the Tao; infinite and free.

Most trolling isn’t even worth that. Being asinine should cost money.

Why? Non-digital assistants aren’t gender neutral.

Because women are tired of being the default gender for servility, and because the temptation to abuse and belittle realistically female-sounding digital assistants is too strong for some men, and because that then spills over into their real-life attitudes towards women (or vice versa – chicken, egg). Why replicate that dynamic if you don’t have to? Why uncritically transfer our human assumptions and prejudices into AI?

The consensus among redpillers is that women have raised their standards to ridiculous levels

What are these “ridiculous levels”, and how are Red Pill demands for submissive HB10 virgins who fuck like porn stars and don’t require food, shelter, and clothing any less ridiculous?

due to their access to endless amounts of male validation & attention for very little effort.

I assume you’re talking about ogling, pedestaling, and catcalling here. Women would be perfectly fine if men stopped doing that. It’s not flattering, it’s annoying and terrifying. You wouldn’t want to be subjected to it either.

Naglfar
Naglfar
8 months ago

@Buttercup Q Skullpants

Why replicate that dynamic if you don’t have to? Why uncritically transfer our human assumptions and prejudices into AI?

In addition, I’m curious why we have to transfer a binary view of gender to AIs at all. It’s unnecessary and just adds to all the dynamics you mentioned.

What are these “ridiculous levels”, and how are Red Pill demands for submissive HB10 virgins who fuck like porn stars and don’t require food, shelter, and clothing any less ridiculous?

Because of course those things are totally reasonable to want, unlike how most women want men who aren’t misogynistic shitstains and who treat them like human beings. Such an unreasonable wish. /s

The consensus among redpillers

Pro tip: whenever a sentence starts with “the consensus among [insert extremist group here]” you can safely assume it is going to be completely and utterly false and ridiculous.

Citerior Motive
Citerior Motive
8 months ago

The Black Mirror episode would involve one of these ‘virtual companions’ gaining sentience and turning on her owner, right? Bonus points if she also functions as a PA, like a more advanced version of Alexa or whatever, so she has the power to really fuck the person’s life up.

Catalpa
Catalpa
8 months ago

I’ll wait until hololens is reduced down to a set of contact lenses & I can install an app that makes the whole world into a Gatebox. I’ll customize her to look like whoever the current feminist du jour is, minus the aposematism. And make her personality something like Joi from Blade Runner.

Trolling is a art.

Your version of trolling consists of doing something that only you can see but would presumably really piss off feminists if they knew about it?

I mean, the idea that your fantasy is subjugating whomever you think of as the face of feminism is gross, don’t get me wrong. But this is about as sophisticated a form of trolling as holding your fingers up close to your eye and squishing the heads of people you dislike.

Naglfar
Naglfar
8 months ago

@Catalpa

Your version of trolling consists of doing something that only you can see but would presumably really piss off feminists if they knew about it?

I get the feeling he wouldn’t even need to buy the lens thing and he would just walk around telling people he had it and that he was doing what he said.

Crip Dyke
8 months ago

Okay, I’m not sure if this is really the best place to put this, but since people are mentioning gender neutrality in relation to the waifu characters, I think I should drop this here.

Gender neutral is probably not the best term here. I explain why on my blog.

A separate post is coming later, but to start with think about the fact that androgynous is different from agender. Gender flexibility better represents the ideas of androgyny while gender neutrality better represents the ideas of agender, though we actually should consider whether gender neutral actually has dehumanizing connotations that make it generally inapplicable to people (and when discussing aspects of agender people and lives, we should simply stick to agender rather than describing them as gender neutral).

I am not the cop of language, and I will not be handcuffing anyone and dragging them back to the station for using a formulation that I consider to communicate poorly and that I consider to have bad side effects. I do hope, though, that people will read that piece and think about what they’re saying.

To keep length down, I actually split off a separate discussion of why it’s not merely possible to distinguish gender flexibility from gender neutrality, but why it’s actually important, with some of the political and social effects detailed in that separate discussion.

That post isn’t up yet, but at least some of why it might be important can be seen, I hope, from what I’ve already articulated.

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

I’ll wait until hololens is reduced down to a set of contact lenses & I can install an app that makes the whole world into a Gatebox. I’ll customize her to look l

ike whoever the current feminist du jour is, minus the aposematism. And make her personality something like Joi from Blade Runner.

Trolling is a art.

You’re really overestimating how much feminists care about your wanking habits. We really, really don’t. We only know about your theoretical future wank habits because you decided to come in here and tell us. I promise you, we weren’t losing sleep wondering about it.

The consensus among redpillers

That’s like saying “The consensus among young earth creationists” or “The consensus among Holocaust deniers.” There’s no basis in reality there.

dashapants
dashapants
8 months ago

@Demonhype

Manosphere dudes are the only ones living in the “women will be sorry when we all have robot girlfriends” fantasy. Japan has long since betrayed them. Absolute Boyfriend (Zettai Kareshi) was a popular manga and TV show starting back in 2005, and it’s about a woman dating a cute robot rather than her cute human boss.