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Reddit bans its main incel hangout and dozens of other completely wholesome subreddits

The dumbest relevant meme I could find

By David Futrelle

So I’ve been taking a brief “I can’t stand to look at this shit every single day” hiatus, but the thing about the manosphere is that the news never stops breaking. And the latest no-longer-quite-breaking news is that the Reddit admins have, at long last, banned the Braincels subreddit for violating the site’s newly strengthened rules against harassment and bullying.

The subreddit went down on Monday, along with several dozen other subreddits that also should have been banned a long time ago. According to the folks in the SubredditDrama subreddit, here are a few of the other subreddits that are no longer subredditing as of two days ago. I’ve had to lightly censor some of the names for obvious reasons. See if you can detect any themes here!

r/AmericanJewishPower

/r/The19thMistake

r/misogyny

r/AsianFemaleHate

r/Apen*ggers

r/blackn*ggercock

r/BritishJewishPower

/r/deformedBabies

r/FunnyN*gger

r/IHateJewishPeople

r/IHateMidgets

r/ihaten*ggers420

r/Incelistan

/r/Identitarian

/r/k*ke

r/N*ggerDrama

r/n*ggersfacts

r/Race_reality/

/r/whiteliberation

/r/youdonenowblacky

Several days before the crackdown, the Reddit admins shut down more than a dozen other racist subreddits with names like

r/Fascist

r/We_Hate_N*ggers

r/k*kefilter

r/we_hate_niggs

r/FUCKN*GGERS

Tellingly, the We_Hate_N*ggers subreddit was banned, not for hate, but because it was abandoned by its mods. “This subreddit was banned due to being unmoderated,” the Reddit admins note in their ban annoucement. “If you’d like to take it over please make a post in /r/redditrequest.”

I should note that the mods took down several subreddits making fun of white people as well, but the worst anti-white slur in any of their titles was “mayo,” which I didn’t even realize was a slur and not just something that goes great on sandwiches.

You may find yourself wondering why Reddit wasn’t already instabanning all subreddits WITH THE N-WORD IN THEIR GODDAMNED TITLES. You may find yourself wondering what sort of “content policy” Reddit was operating under that made all of these subreddits just peachy as of a few days ago.

Needless to say, numerous hateful subreddits remain standing — from r/MGTOW to r/TheRedPill to The_Donald, Reddit’s main hangout for MAGAheads.

The inhabitants of these subreddits, worried that they’ll be next, are making plans to regroup on other sites. And bravely announcing their plans to never shut their pie-holes ever.

“I’m not going anywhere,” declared someone called MaestroLogical in the Men Going Their Own Way subreddit.

They don’t dare unleash us on the masses.

They remove the sanctuary and we’ll simply start espousing our ideals in every thread, in every sub.

Er, how is that any different than what Reddit misogynists do already?

While banning all these subreddits won’t shut up all of the dedicated haters who used to populate them, it will make it harder for them to find one another online — and harder for them to recruit. Reddit’s latest ban extravaganza is a step in the right direction from a site that’s generally marching the wrong way.

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Naglfar
Naglfar
1 year ago

Good riddance. I’m hoping they take the ban hammer to r/The_Donald, r/GenderCritical, and r/TheRedPill next. Those subreddits are pretty awful as well.

One does question why subreddits with racial slurs in the titles got to stick around so long.

IseultTheIdle
IseultTheIdle
1 year ago

When Reddit starts to realize that slurs are hate speech and not free speech, you know the dam is breaking.

MJ
MJ
1 year ago

Did you catch that they were going to ban TRP and then at the last minute, gave them a reprieve?

Of course, the red pill jackasses are acting like it’s because they’re special snowflakes the admins can’t touch, and not at all because they’re running the risk of getting removed at any time.

Aaron
Aaron
1 year ago

Good riddance. I’m hoping they take the ban hammer to r/The_Donald, r/GenderCritical, and r/TheRedPill next. Those subreddits are pretty awful as well.

I wouldn’t get your hopes up, honestly. I’ve been expecting the Braincels ban for a while now, but I think there’s a line – albeit not always a clear one – between Braincels (and the other banned subreddits) and stuff like r/GenderCritical, r/MGTOW, and r/TheRedPill.

I don’t know: I’m admittedly struggling to articulate the difference myself. I think a lot of it might have to do with how those subreddits tend to express their beliefs as much as the beliefs themselves.

Ooglyboggles
Ooglyboggles
1 year ago

Well that’s a relief. A few less bigoted hangouts is a plus.

FlyByKiwi
FlyByKiwi
1 year ago

I recently googled a plumbing problem. My toilet’s flush button stopped, well, flushing. I was super keen to try to fix it myself. (Cos plumbing is not magic, like electrical issues, and will rarely kill you if you get it wrong.) And I got a result in a subreddit that seemed to be about home repairs. Normally I don’t look at Reddits ever but I thought it was harmless. And I was astonished how quickly the discussion turned RACIST (someone had a rental with people in it of a different race, and was blaming the same plumbing issue on how their tenants, and by extension every other person of that race, lives). So I guess some of these subredditors are already carrying our their dastardly plan to be racist and misogynist in every thread, in every sub? Everywhere.

griffon8
griffon8
1 year ago

I knew “mayo” was a slur because I follow the wonderfully entertaining @freeyourmindkid. I mean, I just laugh about it, because I know that the behavior that gets him to call you mayo will never be typed out by my own fingers.

Fabe
Fabe
1 year ago

The only redditt I follow is for the Fate RPG. It’s been a hate free reddit as far as I’ve seen but I think that might be due to the publisher of the game being pretty progressive.

epitome of incomprehensibility

You may find yourself wondering why Reddit wasn’t already instabanning all subreddits WITH THE N-WORD IN THEIR GODDAMNED TITLES.

You read my mind!

Racist comments pop up on Youtube a lot too. The latest one I remember seeing was sort of funny in its sheer ignorance…

Video: mentions WW2
Commenter: Hey, isn’t it suspicious that the Holocaust is the one thing that isn’t studied or questioned?

…Hasn’t been studied??? Of all things. Go to a fucking library. (And that comment got 4 likes; I weep for humanity.)

Actually I did start crying last month, after I came back from working on a PowerPoint project with my grade 12 tutoring student. She’s doing world history – not my field of study, so I have to look stuff up and take longer than usual – and there were 4 projects in a row on WW2. Which happened years ago, and isn’t directly related to me, and I start crying over a picture I saw.

That’s kind of irrelevant, but I guess my point is that I understand

So I’ve been taking a brief ‘I can’t stand to look at this shit every single day’ hiatus

and it’s not a problem.

Weasel-Rah
Weasel-Rah
1 year ago

It will be interesting to watch how they do without their echo chamber/safe spaces to boost them and confirm all their worst ideas as the troof. I find that most people like this spout off a lot less if there’s a chance it might come back to them later.

Naglfar
Naglfar
1 year ago

@Aaron

I don’t know: I’m admittedly struggling to articulate the difference myself. I think a lot of it might have to do with how those subreddits tend to express their beliefs as much as the beliefs themselves.

I know what you mean. Those subreddits generally aren’t quite as quick to advocate hate crimes and shootings (though that’s not to say they don’t do it), which is part of why Braincels was banned, so I doubt they will be banned soon. I can dream, but I know it’s unlikely.

Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
1 year ago

And the latest no-longer-quite-breaking news is that the Reddit admins have, at long last, banned the Braincels subreddit for violating the site’s newly strengthened rules against harassment and bullying.

I don’t understand Reddit’s hatred of intellectuals. Jealousy?

numerobis
numerobis
1 year ago

FlyByKiwi: Electricity may have more dramatic failure modes but plumbing has this obnoxious tendency to leak somewhere without you noticing, for years… which can slowly kill you (or cause major property damage).

But yeah, forums everywhere sometimes and totally randomly descend into intense racism.

Nikki the Bluth Wannabe
Nikki the Bluth Wannabe
1 year ago

Iowa-based convenience store chain Casey’s General Store has expanded into my area of Ohio, with 3 stores opening in towns near me in the last 2 years. I love their made-to-order subs, and especially the mayonnaise they use on said subs-it’s sweeter than any other mayo (the condiment) brand I’ve used. Whoever decided to call white people “mayo” as a racial slur has most likely never tasted that Casey’s mayo.

Ohlmann
Ohlmann
1 year ago

In France and my experience, mayonnaise is supposed to be a solid yellow, like a LEGO character. the whitish one indicate is bad quality industrial one. I guess traditional mayonnaise is a ploy to make caucasian think they are asiatic …

(even if yellow also describe european pretty well actually. I alway have found asiatic to more be tanned than yellow)

Penny Psmith
Penny Psmith
1 year ago

@epitome of incomprehensibility:
Saying that the holocaust hasn’t been studied is like saying that vaccines haven’t been studied (which is something I’ve actually seen antivaxxers say). In both cases, it’s because the person saying it can’t find studies saying what they want them to say, and instead of realising that this consensus exists for a good reason, they choose to see it as proof of some big conspiracy.

By the way, does anyone know what those “Jewish power” subs were about? I have a guess (both because of the analogy with “white power” and because it is sort of a rough translation of Otzma Yehudit, the name of the bigot party that thankfully has once again failed to get enough votes to get into the Knesset) but kind of afraid to check if I’m right.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
1 year ago

Re: Holocaust research

This is the judgment in the Irving v Lipstat case. It has the distinction of being the only court judgement ever published as a book. It goes into great detail though about the history of holocaust research.

Interestingly, Irving accepted the holocaust was real. His defence was that he’d never claimed otherwise. The judge didn’t believe him; what with all the evidence of him denying the holocaust.

https://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWHC/QB/2000/115.html

Irving v. Penguin Books Limited, Deborah E. Lipstat [2000] EWHC QB 115 (11th April, 2000)

Knitting Cat Lady
Knitting Cat Lady
1 year ago

We should take off and nuke the site from orbit. It’s the only way to be sure.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
1 year ago

Don’t know if this is on topic or not, but it’s an interesting illustration of one of those ‘hard cases’, where rights conflict.

Judgement today in a case.

36 year old man with autism. Has no understanding of consent. Restrictions imposed prohibiting real word and internet contact with women; except under very limited and supervised circumstances.

First instance case has ruled that’s not permissible. Now off to appeal.

https://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWCOP/2019/39.html

I’d be interested in any thoughts people have. It’s sort of relevant to something I’m working on.

Naglfar
Naglfar
1 year ago

@Alan Robertshaw

Interestingly, Irving accepted the holocaust was real. His defence was that he’d never claimed otherwise. The judge didn’t believe him; what with all the evidence of him denying the holocaust.

David Irving is just awful. He destroyed pretty much any and all credibility he had as a historian and now goes around preaching about Hitler and attacking Auschwitz survivors. He appears to think that the Holocaust happened, but refuses to acknowledge that Hitler did it deliberately or that the death toll was about 6 million Jews (and millions from other groups as well, including Romani, LGBTQIPAN+ people, disabled people, and political opponents).

Re: the man with autism
I read the beginning of the report and I’m not quite understanding his sanctions. Did he commit a crime and this is punishment? Or is it preemptive?
If it is preemptive and he has not committed any offenses, maybe there is a way to teach him about consent and relationships. I see it as being potentially rather harmful to him to isolate him, and much better for him and the surrounding world if he can learn to safely interact with women. If he is incapable of learning, it may be justifiable to impose restrictions, but first attempts should be made to teach.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
1 year ago

@ naglfar

Did he commit a crime and this is punishment? Or is it preemptive?

He’s subject to the Mental Capacity Act. So there’s a care package in place to ensure his welfare.

But as the court pointed out; the purpose of the Act is to ensure his welfare; not anyone else’s. And it’s a very light touch regime anyway:

“the intention of the Act is not to dress an incapacitous person in forensic cotton wool but to allow them as far as possible to make the same mistakes that all other human beings are at liberty to make and not infrequently do.”

If a person’s mental state means they present a danger to other people then there is a mechanism for restraining their liberty. They are “sectioned” under the Mental Health Act (which is a different act).

However you can only be sectioned if your condition is treatable; and the purpose of the section is to treat, not for public protection per se.

If a person can’t be treated they can’t be detained.

That does mean that there’s nothing that can be done pre-emptively to prevent offending, and that was mentioned in the case. But it’s just one of those areas where there’s an irreconcilable conflict of rights.

They don’t lock people up just because they present a risk; and that was the rationale for the decision here.

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

We’ve seen Reddit ban a handful of particularly toxic subs before. They’ll be back under a different name and it will be another three or four years before they can those. This is just something Reddit does once in awhile for good PR.

Catalpa
Catalpa
1 year ago

@Penny Psmith

I avoid reddit like the plague, but I would guess that the “Jewish power” subreddits were based around discussing how Jewish folks secretly control everything and how that problem needed to be ‘solved’.

Naglfar
Naglfar
1 year ago

@Catalpa

I avoid reddit like the plague, but I would guess that the “Jewish power” subreddits were based around discussing how Jewish folks secretly control everything and how that problem needed to be ‘solved’.

That’s what I figured as well. It just seemed more likely that it would be yet another antisemitic conspiracy subreddit than a subreddit devoted to an Israeli far right party.

Katamount
1 year ago

*sigh* Times like this I think back to the halcyon days of youth, where the internet was new and exciting and I think “God, we were all so naive to think there would be grown-ups running the show.”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWy1YGNlNEU

Apparently so was Peter Mansbridge.

I mean, I get that the internet was always about “pushing the envelope” of respectability. I used to read Maddox and SomethingAwful and play Newgrounds games with the pollyannish notion that people didn’t actually believe that stuff and it was either satirizing the reactionary mindset or was at worst just some harmless goofs at the expense of bigger people (celebrities, obnoxious advertisements, etc).

It really wasn’t until YouTube that the masks began to slip and content became so prevalent that people began to become more comfortable revealing what they really believe about things. Then monetization came along to just send everything into overdrive.

It’s like all the dumb thinkpieces that came out about the Joker movie. While I have doubt it earned its acclaim, a whole bunch of tut-tutting columnists jockeying for attention went to the “it’s too dangerous to be seen” extreme, effectively making it more difficult to objectively analyze it. Brad Jones the Cinema Snob just released a video sarcastically mocking the idea that the film could influence incels (and even if it does, it’s not the movie’s fault), and I posted a comment saying “I get what you’re saying, but it’s a little harder to be glib about this stuff when one of these very-online misogynists drove over a couple dozen of my fellow Torontonians.”

Of course Todd Phillips came clean and was like “Yeah, I wanted to piss off the SJWs cuz they ruin comedy.” M’kay. Mission accomplished. We now have a movie from a nihilistic misogynist’s point of view. Sadly Anna Marie D’Amico isn’t around to enjoy it, on account of being buried in Prospect Cemetery, to name just one of the fatalities.

*sigh* At least there’s one less place these proverbial clowns can congregate.

Simon
Simon
1 year ago

r/The_Donald did briefly try and move to VOAT but they weren’t allowed to shut out people who disagreed with their circle jerk. If Reddit upheld the terms of service they’d have been gone years ago. I do wonder if, as this impeachment really does seem to be getting some traction, spez will finally bite the bullet and kick them. I’ll throw in a recommend for r/againsthatesubreddits here. They do good work against a torrent of vileness.

As for David Irving, he’s brilliantly played by Timothy Spall in Denial. Well done and holds pretty close to the facts.

Simon
Simon
1 year ago

Oh, and Braincels, in contradiction with their name, tried to set up a ban evasion sub that has already been booted.

Cat Mara
Cat Mara
1 year ago

And, to quote a meme that the kind of edgelord who inhabits these places is generally fond of, nothing of value was lost.

Diego Duarte
Diego Duarte
1 year ago

@Katamount

Of course Todd Phillips came clean and was like “Yeah, I wanted to piss off the SJWs cuz they ruin comedy.”

Wow! He owned up to that shit? Can I get references? Because the only one I seem to find is stuck behind a paywall.

Jenora Feuer
Jenora Feuer
1 year ago

@Diego Duarte, Katamount:
I took a look for that, and found https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/davidmack/todd-phillips-joker-woke-culture-comedy

Up until this year, Todd Phillips was best known for directing male-led comedies, but he says he decided to move into drama and make the Batman villain origin story Joker because he finds it difficult to be funny in “woke culture.”
[…]
“Go try to be funny nowadays with this woke culture,” Phillips said. “There were articles written about why comedies don’t work anymore — I’ll tell you why, because all the fucking funny guys are like, ‘Fuck this shit, because I don’t want to offend you.’”

So, yeah, ‘it’s impossible to be funny because of SJWs’ isn’t much of a paraphrase.

Betrayer
Betrayer
1 year ago

I don’t get why all the Joker people are complaining about the “”controversy.”” Thanks to some edgelord incels making terrorist threats and people responding to that, they got tons of free publicity and are going to make a lot more money then their mediocre, tepid film deserves.

Wondering
Wondering
1 year ago

I get all the others, but what was the Identitarian subreddit about?

Naglfar
Naglfar
1 year ago

Whenever people say that political correctness ruined comedy, what they seem to mean is “now I can’t get away with bigotry when I say it’s a joke.”

@Wandering October
Identitarian is an alt right buzzword that is short for “white identity politics,” or white nationalism. It’s probably another white supremacist subreddit.

anon
anon
1 year ago

One of those “real talk freeze peach unpopular opinions off my chest rant” subs is currently carrying out a raid on any LGBT sub that includes trans people, including r/LGBT which obv always had a T in it, bc som TERF got mad at a lesbian space that has long had trans mods and included trans women.

Because trans women totally didnt know some women are obsessed with how much they dont like penis and dont see why constantly announcing it in the grossest way is transphobic and insisting women who date trans women cant be lesbians.

I honestly had a bit of a breakdown seeing some of the worst comments.

Diego Duarte
Diego Duarte
1 year ago

@Wondering

Well, I dunno but my take would be “White supremacist” since it’s the term they explicitly adopted for recruitment purposes and to camouflage their racist rethoric, under a veil of pseudo-intellectualism.

Naglfar
Naglfar
1 year ago

@Wondering
For some reason my phone autocompleted your ‘nym to “Wandering October” and I didn’t catch it till after the edit timer ran out. Sorry about that. My previous comment was addressed to you.

Weird (and tired of trumplings) Eddie
Weird (and tired of trumplings) Eddie
1 year ago

You may find yourself wondering what sort of “content policy” Reddit was operating under that made all of these subreddits just peachy as of a few days ago

… same one they’re STILL using — “We don’t GIVE a SHIT! (unless it affects our bottom line)”

Moon_custafer
Moon_custafer
1 year ago

And you may find yourself saying: “This is not my beautiful wife! This is not my racist reddit hangout!”

Weird (and tired of trumplings) Eddie
Weird (and tired of trumplings) Eddie
1 year ago

re: “Identitarian”

I’m guessing “Christian Identity

Christian Identity (also known as Identity Christianity)[1] is a racist,[2] anti-Semitic,[2] and white supremacist interpretation of Christianity which holds that only Germanic, Anglo-Saxon, Celtic, Nordic, Aryan people and those of kindred blood are the descendants of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and hence the descendants of the ancient Israelites.[citation needed]

wikipoedia

Wondering
Wondering
1 year ago

Thanks, everyone! I wasn’t familiar with that term, and these days, I don’t know how much to trust the sites a Google search would bring up.

Jenora Feuer
Jenora Feuer
1 year ago

@Moon_custafer:
Okay, I just had to suppress laughter. Particularly since a DJ friend of mine was playing ‘Dog Eat Dog’ at the wind-down from a recent show, so I totally heard that in my head as Weird Al doing David Byrne’s voice.

Kevin
Kevin
1 year ago

@ Wondering

If you want a handle on Identitarianism I suggest checking out what Austrian professional troublemaker (hmm, sounds familiar…) Martin Sellner says he believes in. He actually got banned from the UK for his hard- Right shenanigans trying to provoke unrest here in districts where large numbers of Muslims live. Not exactly Christian Identity, which looks like essentially a prison gang from where I’m sitting, but not a million miles from their ideas.

Pie
Pie
1 year ago

I’m disappointed that identitarians aren’t people who eat white supremacists.

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

I don’t think they’d taste very good.

Naglfar
Naglfar
1 year ago

O/T, but did anyone else follow Jacob Wohl’s antics yesterday?
For those who don’t know, he held a press briefing in his friend’s driveway with a man who told a fabricated story about how Elizabeth Warren hired him as a pro submissive. The story unraveled pretty quickly and was a bit entertaining. Warren also had a pretty good comeback.

Thing is, I know it’s fake, but honestly if she was into BDSM that would make me support her more.

I’m assuming Jacob met this mysterious sub fellow in a hipster coffee shop.

cornychips
cornychips
1 year ago

@naglfar

YES. I laughed and laughed. Do you get a glimpse of the paper they handed the press? The “facts and statements”.

I think the most hilarious (and horrible) thing was that they were attempting to smear her by saying she fucks. Oh no, a consensual relationsip; she “admits” shes in an open relationship with her husband. So where is the harm?

Shes also so frail and small and and yet so VIOLENT with her BDSM, lol.
And HORMONAL. lolol, its called menopause motherfuckers.

i highly recommend watching the video or at least reading the ”facts”. It was entertaining for hours.

Naglfar
Naglfar
1 year ago

@cornychips

Do you get a glimpse of the paper they handed the press? The “facts and statements”.

I didn’t see those yet. Got links?

she “admits” shes in an open relationship with her husband. So where is the harm?

Out of curiosity, is she actually in an open relationship?

cornychips
cornychips
1 year ago

She has not publicly claimed she is an open relationship irl. Wohls “gotcha” arguement was that warren has declared shes monogamous to her husband irl 6 times, but gigilo marine boy says shes not!! CHECK MATE DEMS!

I’ll work on that link.

Lumipuna (nee Arctic Ape)
Lumipuna (nee Arctic Ape)
1 year ago

I suspect Wohl is pulling his smear attempts in a deliberately super mockable manner because he hopes for progressive social media to spread the word. That way, Fox news doesn’t have to stoop that low.

Another matter is whether he’s actually having/trying to have some political impact, or just grifting rightwingers.

cornychips
cornychips
1 year ago

Booo i cant find that paper of “facts” but surely another mammoth has it.

Here is the actual video for the conference

https://www.pscp.tv/w/1BdGYeDDwOMGX